Ramus gains from chewing results

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@Deusmaximus posted an x-ray of this guy's jaw before and after recently.

Look at the difference in ramus in these two pics
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Apparently he chewed and bonesmashed.
(This could be a retarded photoshop tho)
 
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It doesn't work after puberty tbh.
 
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Sky is the limit
 
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The angle is slightly different, and he had an increase in his masseter size. Of course you can increase the size of just about every bone in your body with the right exercises but I doubt he actually changed the shape of his ramus.
 
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SkinjobCatastrophe said:
The angle is slightly different, and he had an increase in his masseter size. Of course you can increase the size of just about every bone in your body with the right exercises but I doubt he actually changed the shape of his ramus.
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The masseter can't drop lower than the bone, so therefore the outline has to be his bone
 
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This guy took a hammer to his mandible?
Isn’t that kind of aspie
 
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optimisticzoomer said:
The masseter can't drop lower than the bone, so therefore the outline has to be his bone
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The outline can be altered slightly just by his larger masseter and maybe his flexing of his masseter pulling on the skin differently. It is just impossible to change the angle or length of the ramus by any non surgical method. The masseter also wraps around the mandible, just below the ear so that could affect it as well. Obviously his jaw looks better but his results cant be from a different ramus shape
 
SkinjobCatastrophe said:
The outline can be altered slightly just by his larger masseter and maybe his flexing of his masseter pulling on the skin differently. It is just impossible to change the angle or length of the ramus by any non surgical method. The masseter also wraps around the mandible, just below the ear so that could affect it as well. Obviously his jaw looks better but his results cant be from a different ramus shape
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But larger masseters are correlated with steeper ramus. Not saying chewing causes it but there is a correlation between masseter size and mandible shape
 
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No change.

In the previous picture, subcutaneous fat is changing the apparent shape of the ramus. The width of the masseter muscles would fill and tighten that area, showing the ramus' true shape in the after photo.
 
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Looks like weight loss tbh
 
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Is it puberty or hormone increase? His chin looks more protruded and chewing doesn’t affect the chin i think
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I think that might be lens distortion, or natural growth cos the jaw continues growing slightly in length into early 20s
 
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What was the time frame for this?
 
It does work. But this is absolutely complete bullshit. You won't get this kind of change, even after several years. This is like 1cm of additional ramus length. Fuck off. And it won't grow in this kind of steep/straight/sharp angle, especially when naturally it is at such an obtuse angle.
 
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so this shit isn't cope?

 
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You can't really do this, most of jaw growth takes place as an infant, this is why the mews use appliances for children 7 and older. Chewing can make the jaw look more defined and wide from the front. See this competitive eater, this what chewing does:
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If you want a more developed ramus and mandible you're going to need jaw surgery, or an appliance (which is way more effective the younger you are)
 
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wasted said:
Do you think its angle/lighting frauded?
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Slightly but it seems like his masseters did get bigger and he is clenching as well
 
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interesting, there isn't a single thread about chewing in Best of the Best section, does anyone know a legit routine and can show results ?
 
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favorable lighting & angle + subtle frauding make it look more impressive, but def does look like nice changes. who is this guy?
 
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Ramus length is entirely genetic according to Mike Mew
 
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000 said:
Are you serious? So I could potentially increase my ramus length by 5 mm?
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Nothing is impossible, but not everything is probable
 
This is legit.
Chewing made my Ramus longer
 
It same.. Only masseter muscle will grow by little bit by chewing.
 
Ramus is result of forward growth.
 
000 said:
Jfl and bro I want to chew for my ramus’s but I don’t want my cheekbones getting any wider, they are wide enough. Does chewing really widen them?
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No
 
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Can lengthening the ramus push the mandible forward?
 
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Nice x-rays!

I'm convinced
 
optimisticzoomer said:
No, but the gonial angle would decrease
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@retard told me that when you chew, the ramus’s get longer while simultaneously the mandible flips upwards, so the gonial angle decreases (to compensate for the bite, so the facial height stays around the same). Is this true?
 
000 said:
@retard told me that when you chew, the ramus’s get longer while simultaneously the mandible flips upwards, so the gonial angle decreases (to compensate for the bite, so the facial height stays around the same). Is this true?
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No, the maxilla would need to move up in order for the mandible to swing up. Chewing wont change the actual position of the mandible and therefore the chin, but the shape itself would remodel as the ramus thickens and lengthens:
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This is hypothetical though, and it isn't guaranteed chewing will cause this
 
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optimisticzoomer said:
No, the maxilla would need to move up in order for the mandible to swing up. Chewing wont change the actual position of the mandible and therefore the chin, but the shape itself would remodel as the ramus thickens and lengthens:
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This is hypothetical though, and it isn't guaranteed chewing will cause this
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You just gave me an exact representation of what I was talking about though, maybe I worded it badly:

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000 said:
You just gave me an exact representation of what I was talking about though, maybe I worded it badly:

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Yeah but it's not very drastic. I thought you were saying the mandible rotates up to a more forward and upward position. There is no rotation involved, just remodelling around the site of the masseter
 
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Yeah but it's not very drastic. I thought you were saying the mandible rotates up to a more forward and upward position. There is no rotation involved, just remodelling around the site of the masseter
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I just need a 5 mm increase in length and I’ll be set. Do you think this is possible with years of chewing?
 
000 said:
I just need a 5 mm increase in length and I’ll be set. Do you think this is possible with years of chewing?
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No tbh but idk. This isn't a very well covered area of study. But seeing as I cant give a definitive "no", just continue with it, even if it may be a cope
 
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