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[NarrowBoneMarrow]

its not about what was supposed to be dead average or not its how people are on average and i cannot explain it because i am not a native english speaker and i dont rot on the forum to know the exact words but mtn is supposed to be average by the meaning but thats not how it is irl buddy youre absolutely retarded "muh i swear the average iq on this forum decreased" nigga i joined before u wym has decreased u werent even here and youre the retarded one if u think mtn is average irl please leave your basement and go out

..your English seems fine to me

Learn about what standard deviation means you idiot

 

[kushitemogger7]

first thread been lurking few weeks but still grey
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my side profile is completely raped and recessed and my skin quality is really bad in these pics (has improved since i took them)
tbh i think im around lmtn but just looking for honest ratings
also any tips for improvement? what can i do for side profile

Oh manif i had your base i'd be so happy

 

[cb006]

Oh manif i had your base i'd be so happy

thank you man
dont be too harsh on yourself

 

[zemult]

its not about what was supposed to be dead average or not its how people are on average and i cannot explain it because i am not a native english speaker and i dont rot on the forum to know the exact words but mtn is supposed to be average by the meaning but thats not how it is irl buddy youre absolutely retarded "muh i swear the average iq on this forum decreased" nigga i joined before u wym has decreased u werent even here and youre the retarded one if u think mtn is average irl please leave your basement and go out

Dodged the argument, just spitting the same low IQ monkey drivel. Yes it's sad that you're this retarded despite joining before this account.

Whereever you're at, whatever the average of young men is, that is considered MTN. That was always the concept. There is no moving goalpost of what's considered "average".

Just because you live in a third world country with stinky pakis everywhere bringing the average down, doesn't change that reality.

 

[cryptt]

Dodged the argument, just spitting the same low IQ monkey drivel. Yes it's sad that you're this retarded despite joining before this account.

Whereever you're at, whatever the average of young men is, that is considered MTN. That was always the concept. There is no moving goalpost of what's considered "average".

Just because you live in a third world country with stinky pakis everywhere bringing the average down, doesn't change that reality.

i do not live in area w less attractive people but anywhere in the world mostly the people arent mtn on average mtn is a term thats supposed to be average but thats not what happens irl i did not dodge any argument what youre saying is right according to the definition of mtn but thats not what actually happens irl at every place as mtn is constant everywhere and the average changes according to the place so u cant just say mtn is average because the words literally means mid or average u have to take the others into perspective so when u look at it altogether mostly hltn lmtn or ltn is average u could take solid mtn in average aswell but the average is broad not js mtn

 

[cryptt]

i did not do any "moving the goalpost or smth" i js tried correcting u i did not try to argue w u about ts i have other stuff to do

 

[cryptt]

..your English seems fine to me

Learn about what standard deviation means you idiot

my english is fine but i cannot explain as i do not know the terms and standard deviation doesnt really related here imo but it kinda tells why u cant js call mtn an average as there are two many people from whom u can take average different places so u cant js say one term to represent average everywhere

 

[zemult]

i do not live in area w less attractive people but anywhere in the world mostly the people arent mtn on average mtn is a term thats supposed to be average but thats not what happens irl i did not dodge any argument what youre saying is right according to the definition of mtn but thats not what actually happens irl at every place as mtn is constant everywhere and the average changes according to the place so u cant just say mtn is average because the words literally means mid or average u have to take the others into perspective so when u look at it altogether mostly hltn lmtn or ltn is average u could take solid mtn in average aswell but the average is broad not js mtn

I don't even know the point you're trying to argue.

If you're going to agree the average of the general population is MTN, it doesn't matter whatever shithole you go to where the people there look worse on average.

The average is still MTN.

 

[cryptt]

I don't even know the point you're trying to argue.

If you're going to agree the average of the general population is MTN, it doesn't matter whatever shithole you go to where the people there look worse on average.

The average is still MTN.

average litreally means

i do not agree or disagree w mtn being the average but that term cannot represent the average of the whole world as it varies average literally varies from place to place or thing to thing why dont u get it that mtn cannot represent the average of the whole world thats why something in between of mtn and ltn is taken as the average which is htln or lmtn youre using the older 2024 rating system which litreally means average but its not accurate enough to represent the broad perspective

 

[hyperbeast]

shit i didnt mean to put the picture of clash of clans LMFAO thought it was bugged

Fucking high iq to put clash of clans in your rating post to boost engagement mirin

 

[ssxjdgh]

MTN. Fix skin.

 

[cb006]

Fucking high iq to put clash of clans in your rating post to boost engagement mirin

it was my first post and i didn’t know how that shit worked
needless to say i’m pretty good at clash tho

 

[hyperbeast]

it was my first post and i didn’t know how that shit worked
needless to say i’m pretty good at clash tho

Good thing though i dont think this thread would be as long as it is if you didn't put coc in there to bump the thread
also you're mtn fix skin and colouring

 

[cb006]

Good thing though i dont think this thread would be as long as it is if you didn't put coc in there to bump the thread
also you're mtn fix skin and colouring

haha maybe
gotchu

 

[Crayzy]

I'd be genuinely surprised if you're even aware of your surroundings if that wasn't satire

yo cn u and @tomahawk guy rate me? cz from what i can see yall are honest n give actual ratings and advice on how to get better (something some retards cant do)

 

[zemult]

average litreally means View attachment 4428817
i do not agree or disagree w mtn being the average but that term cannot represent the average of the whole world as it varies average literally varies from place to place or thing to thing why dont u get it that mtn cannot represent the average of the whole world thats why something in between of mtn and ltn is taken as the average which is htln or lmtn youre using the older 2024 rating system which litreally means average but its not accurate enough to represent the broad perspective

There is no "older 2024 rating system" you fucking moron.

I'll make it very simple for you: Whatever the global average is for young men, that is what is considered MTN.

There is no moving goalpost, the average does not become LTN. If the average did somehow inflate, that new average would be the MTN, and the older MTNs would become LTN. Not the other way around. MTN is and always was 50th percentile, hence the naming scheme.

Genuinely leave this forum, I think there's apes out there that are more intelligent than you.

 

[zemult]

Your "varying averages" argument also falls flat on its face.

Just because there are places out there full of uglies, that doesn't make the average LTN.

There are other places that end up balancing it out to make the global average MTN, because the people there look better and tip the mean in the other direction.

For example, look at the U.S average height. You can say height varies by place to place, yet the global U.S average height has hovered around 5'9 for decades.

 

[cryptt]

There is no "older 2024 rating system" you fucking moron.

I'll make it very simple for you: Whatever the global average is for young men, that is what is considered MTN.

There is no moving goalpost, the average does not become LTN. If the average did somehow inflate, that new average would be the MTN, and the older MTNs would become LTN. Not the other way around. MTN is and always was 50th percentile, hence the naming scheme.

Genuinely leave this forum, I think there's apes out there that are more intelligent than you.

by older 2024 system i mean just the htn ltn and mtn thing the hltn and lmtn and other terms werent used before youre stuck up on your idea being mtn means mid tier normie so its average nigga theres no fucking global average if u were to take that that rating is not gonna be fucking 5 its probably gonna be less youre a moron for thinking theres a global average which makes mtn average
MTN IS MID TIER WHICH MIGHT BE AVERAGE BUT NIGGA AVERAGE IS TAKEN FROM DIFFERENT SETS OF PEOPLE U FUCKING RETARD U CANT TAKE A FUCKING GLOBAL AVERAGE U DONT EVEN KNOW HOW PEOPLE LOOK EVERYWHERE AVERAGE LITERALLY MEANS THE STANDARD AMOUNT OF SOMETHING OR SOMETHING STANDARD AND THERES NO FUCKING STANDARD GLOBAL LOOK MTN MEANS THAT BUT U CANT USE JS MTN AS BEING THE FUCKING GLOBAL AVERAGE

muh goalpost shifting nigga i am legit talking about the same thing js because u learned new words doesnt mean you have to use it everywhere for no reason pls sybau putting those emojis arent gonna make u right and funny

once again mtn cannot be the average all over the world js because it means mid tier normie is because the world is vast and u cannot take a fucking average of the whole world there are more than 8billion people nigga u cant make the average mtn everywhere because it would change everywhere so the term in between of ltn and mtn is taken as average which would be lmtn or hltn

AND THE AVERAGE PERSON U SEE MOSTLY IS NOT A MTN IF U ARENT LIVING IN A COUNTRY WHERE PEOPLE ARE REALLY GOODLOOKING AND IF U LIVE THERE THE AVERAGE THERE IS GONNA BE DIFFERENT HOW DO U NOT GET IT ARE U STUPID HOW OLD ARE U YOURE THE MOST ANNOYING USER HERE

 

[cryptt]

Your "varying averages" argument also falls flat on its face.

Just because there are places out there full of uglies, that doesn't make the average LTN.

There are other places that end up balancing it out to make the global average MTN, because the people there look better and tip the mean in the other direction.

For example, look at the U.S average height. You can say height varies by place to place, yet the global U.S average height has hovered around 5'9 for decades.

Long-Term Trends (1900s–2000s)​

Men​

• Around early 1900s, average adult male height in the U.S. was about 5 ft 7 inches (170 cm). Medical News Today+1
• Over much of the 20th century, average height increased steadily due to better nutrition, healthcare, and living conditions. Medical News Today
• By around 1970s–2000s, it had increased to around 5 ft 9 inches (175 cm). Medical News Today

Women​

• Early in the 1900s, average U.S. adult women were around 5 ft 3 inches (160 cm). supplementchoices.com
• By the mid-to-late 20th century, it rose slightly to roughly 5 ft 4 inches (163 cm). supplementchoices.com

Summary: Over roughly a century, men in the U.S. got about 2–3 inches taller on average and women about 1–2 inches taller overall. Medical News Today+1

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Recent Trends (Late 20th Century – Today)​

Men (Adults)​

• Recent data (e.g., 2011–2014) show the average adult male height is about 5 ft 9¼ inches (≈175 cm). CDC
• Other recent sources suggest it’s been stable at around 5 ft 9–9½ inches for the past few decades — with little significant growth since the 1970s. newznick.com
• Some reports even show tiny declines in average height in the early 21st century (e.g., a few tenths of an inch shorter between 1999 and 2015). The Economic Times

Women (Adults)​

• The average adult woman in the U.S. is around 5 ft 3¾ inches to 5 ft 4¼ inches according to recent data. CDC
• Like men, women’s average adult height has seen less change recently than in earlier decades. CDC

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Children & Teens​

• Average heights for children and adolescents have slightly increased compared with earlier decades, though growth curves have also shown some plateauing in recent years. CDC
• Height trends depend on age group, but improvements in health and nutrition historically contributed to increases. CDC

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Why Growth Has Slowed​

The big increases in average height mainly happened when nutrition, disease control, and living standards improved dramatically (especially through the 20th century). In recent decades, average adult height in the U.S. has largely plateaued because most people already reach close to their genetic potential with current health and nutritional conditions. newznick.com

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Quick Snapshot​

Period	Average U.S. Male Height	Average U.S. Female Height
Early 1900s	~5′7″ (170 cm)	~5′3″ (160 cm)
Mid-1900s	~5′8″–5′9″	~5′3″–5′4″
Early 2000s	~5′9″	~5′4″
Recent	~5′9–5′9½″	~5′4″

THATS EXACTLY WHAT ITS ABOUT ITS THE AVERAGE OF US NOT THE WHOLE WORLD GET OUT OF YOUR HEAD AND THINK WILL U IF I AM WRONG ILL AGREE THAT WHAT ARE U TALKING ABOUT YOURE GENUINELY PMO I CANT BE HERE ARGUING W SOMEONE WHO HAS 500MORE REPS THAN HIS POSTS

 

[cryptt]

Here’s a quick look at the global average height for adults (not just one country, but estimated worldwide): The Times of India+1

Global Average Adult Height​

Men (worldwide):
✦ About 171 cm (≈ 5 ft 7½ inches) on average globally. Our World in Data


Women (worldwide):
✦ About 159 cm (≈ 5 ft 3 inches) on average globally. Our World in Data


These numbers are global averages, meaning they combine tall populations (e.g., parts of Europe) with shorter populations (e.g., South Asia) into one overall estimate. The Times of India

Summary​

Group	Average Height (Worldwide)
Men	~171 cm (≈5 ft 7½ in)
Women	~159 cm (≈5 ft 3 in)

Important: These average heights vary a LOT by region and country. For example, people in Northern Europe tend to be taller than those in many parts of Asia and Africa. The Times of India


Would you like a global comparison by country or region (e.g., tallest vs shortest countries)?


THERE U GO THIS IS THE GLOBAL AVERAGE THATS WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING WHAT DO U NOT GET LIKE GENUINELY THE GLOBAL AVERAGE IS DIFFERENT THAN THAT OF US AND OTHER COUNTRIES GLOBALLY MTN WOULD BE CONSIDERED AVERAGE BY THE NAME BUT THAT DOES NOT MAKE IT AVERAGE EVERYWHERE THE AVERAGE IS IN BETWEEN AND YOURE LEGIT TAKING STANDARD NUMBERS OVER WHAT U SEE IRL???? DO U NOT GET OUT OF YOUR BASEMENT

 

[cryptt]

2. “Average” depends on the local population​

Statistically speaking, average means:

“What most people in this specific group look like.”

So:

• “Average-looking in Sweden” ≠ “average-looking in Japan”
• “Average-looking in Brazil” ≠ “average-looking in India”

There is no single global baseline face or body.

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3. Why 5/10 breaks down​

The idea of 5/10 = average assumes:

• One shared scale
• One shared standard
• Everyone agrees on what the midpoint looks like

None of that is true for beauty.


In reality:

• In one country, the “average” person might get rated 6/10 by outsiders
• In another, the local average might be seen as 4/10 elsewhere

So calling 5/10 “average” only works within a specific cultural context — not across borders.

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A better way to think about it​

Instead of:

5/10 = average globally

Think:

“Average” = the middle of that culture’s distribution

So:

• Average in Country A → middle of Country A’s population
• Average in Country B → middle of Country B’s population

Those middles do not line up on the same number scale.

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Key takeaway​

• ✔ Beauty standards do vary by country and culture
• ✔ “Average” is context-dependent, not universal
• A global 5/10 “average person” doesn’t really exist

genuinely please stop arguing i cannot argue w u rn youre not gonna be the smaller person if youre considered wrong even if this is a misunderstanding js think of it as i am wrong and move on

 

[lucifer88]

mid mtn its just mtn you fucking retard

Kudos to you knowing how to actually take pictures.
You are in the MTN region, I would say you are Mid MTN, that could push High MTN.
You look tall, and your decent looking atm, around a 5.65.

 

[zemult]

Here’s a quick look at the global average height for adults (not just one country, but estimated worldwide): The Times of India+1

Global Average Adult Height​

Men (worldwide):
✦ About 171 cm (≈ 5 ft 7½ inches) on average globally. Our World in Data


Women (worldwide):
✦ About 159 cm (≈ 5 ft 3 inches) on average globally. Our World in Data


These numbers are global averages, meaning they combine tall populations (e.g., parts of Europe) with shorter populations (e.g., South Asia) into one overall estimate. The Times of India

Summary​

Group	Average Height (Worldwide)
Men	~171 cm (≈5 ft 7½ in)
Women	~159 cm (≈5 ft 3 in)

Important: These average heights vary a LOT by region and country. For example, people in Northern Europe tend to be taller than those in many parts of Asia and Africa. The Times of India


Would you like a global comparison by country or region (e.g., tallest vs shortest countries)?


THERE U GO THIS IS THE GLOBAL AVERAGE THATS WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING WHAT DO U NOT GET LIKE GENUINELY THE GLOBAL AVERAGE IS DIFFERENT THAN THAT OF US AND OTHER COUNTRIES GLOBALLY MTN WOULD BE CONSIDERED AVERAGE BY THE NAME BUT THAT DOES NOT MAKE IT AVERAGE EVERYWHERE THE AVERAGE IS IN BETWEEN AND YOURE LEGIT TAKING STANDARD NUMBERS OVER WHAT U SEE IRL???? DO U NOT GET OUT OF YOUR BASEMENT

Argues that an "average is impossible" because the world is so vast, then gives me statistics on average height from ChatGPT.

Also for your own sake, please do not argue the average height in a different century. Nutrition was generally a lot worse in these times JFL.

Nobody here is talking about a literal Global average nigga, don't try to shift your argument to that because you know you were losing. We don't care that the average looks level in Pakistan is LTN compared to the West.

We are talking about Western averages. I think your anger has caused your argument to completely fall apart, I genuinely don't even know what you're arguing about anymore.

 

[esoterik]

Argues that an "average is impossible" because the world is so vast, then gives me statistics on average height from ChatGPT.

Also for your own sake, please do not argue the average height in a different century. Nutrition was generally a lot worse in these times JFL.

Nobody here is talking about a literal Global average nigga, don't try to shift your argument to that because you know you were losing. We don't care that the average looks level in Pakistan is LTN compared to the West.

We are talking about Western averages. I think your anger has caused your argument to completely fall apart, I genuinely don't even know what you're arguing about anymore.

ur so cute

 

[cryptt]

Argues that an "average is impossible" because the world is so vast, then gives me statistics on average height from ChatGPT.

Also for your own sake, please do not argue the average height in a different century. Nutrition was generally a lot worse in these times JFL.

Nobody here is talking about a literal Global average nigga, don't try to shift your argument to that because you know you were losing. We don't care that the average looks level in Pakistan is LTN compared to the West.

We are talking about Western averages. I think your anger has caused your argument to completely fall apart, I genuinely don't even know what you're arguing about anymore.

i have no interest in winning a i did not shift any argument u brought up the global point eventually and the height thing and i js talked about what u said i have no anger towards u i am js annoyed because u arent trying to understand what i am saying maybe i didnt frame it goodenough or u didnt understand it nonetheless i am sorry i cant keep arguing this and still mtn is not the global average

youve said this and i couldve told u youre moving goalposts as the thing u stated was mtn is average and u showed a ss of a thread stating mtn is average u took in conventionally average that time but now youre varying it whatever u say ill agree w u js think i "lost"argument while stating what is right i havent denied mtn being the average completely i said it means the average but it varies idk what u dont understand

 

[zemult]

i have no interest in winning a i did not shift any argument u brought up the global point eventually and the height thing and i js talked about what u said i have no anger towards u i am js annoyed because u arent trying to understand what i am saying maybe i didnt frame it goodenough or u didnt understand it nonetheless i am sorry i cant keep arguing this and still mtn is not the global average
View attachment 4429785youve said this and i couldve told u youre moving goalposts as the thing u stated was mtn is average and u showed a ss of a thread stating mtn is average u took in conventionally average that time but now youre varying it whatever u say ill agree w u js think i "lost"argument while stating what is right i havent denied mtn being the average completely i said it means the average but it varies idk what u dont understand

Global WESTERN average, meaning the average of every Western country. Everyone here knows what I was referring to. I don't need to clarify "Western" for people to know what I mean. The looks in countries like Pakistan or any random Asia country are irrelevant.

Great so we agree that the global western average is MTN. Nice character development

 

[cryptt]

Global WESTERN average, meaning the average of every Western country. Everyone here knows what I was referring to. I don't need to clarify "Western" for people to know what I mean. The looks in countries like Pakistan or any random Asia country are irrelevant.

Great so we agree that the global western average is MTN. Nice character development

id still agree on hltn and lmtn being the global average not "western" specifically the thing u said about mtn being varied from time to time is if u think mtn is not a conventional term and u can vary it which is technically right from your pov and it seems right from mine aswell but mtn being a conventional term which does not vary from time to time makes more sense imo as the whole scale is not disrupted and i fr cant argue w u rn i gotta do smth

 

[zemult]

id still agree on hltn and lmtn being the global average not "western" specifically the thing u said about mtn being varied from time to time is if u think mtn is not a conventional term and u can vary it which is technically right from your pov and it seems right from mine aswell but mtn being a conventional term which does not vary from time to time makes more sense imo as the whole scale is not disrupted and i fr cant argue w u rn i gotta do smth

Yeah I mean sure, if you want a cope statistic, then the global Earth average is going to be "lower" compared to the Western average.

 

[cryptt]

Yeah I mean sure, if you want a cope statistic, then the global Earth average is going to be "lower" compared to the Western average.

as i said u stated that mtn is average u did not state western average and most of the people would agree on hltn lmtn being the average even if u take the western average mtn being the western average wouldnt make sense aswell as there are developing and non developing western countries aswell where average may be lower making the whole western average lower youre taking it conventionly when its favouring u and discarding it when it doesnt atp

 

[zemult]

as i said u stated that mtn is average u did not state western average and most of the people would agree on hltn lmtn being the average even if u take the western average mtn being the western average wouldnt make sense aswell as there are developing and non developing western countries aswell where average may be lower making the whole western average lower youre taking it conventionly when its favouring u and discarding it when it doesnt atp

I meant Global Western average, and everyone knows that. It's not my fault you're low intelligence and think the global Earth average is even relevant.

This argument has gotten absolutely nowhere. You have genuinely no idea about how averages even work.

Just because "non-developing" Western countries exist, that doesn't change the fact that there's going to be a 50th percentile in looks.

 

[cryptt]

i already know youre not going to be reading all this but it gives reasons on why your concept of thinking is flawed id be nice if u read it for once but u can do wtv u want i cant give u my response anymore as its wasting my time now because youre stuck up on your own ideas of something thats logical and common sense

 

[Olympus]

mid mtn its just mtn you fucking retard

Oh my god man you are so dumb
Do you know how rating works.
Low to mid to high mtn
Low mtn is slightly above average
Mid mtn is above average
High mtn is quite above average , decently attractive and getting into rare faces territory