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You Phucking Bastard, that isn't some "Carthaginian general" He's the legendary Hannibal Barca
 
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Reminds me of @Baldingman1998
 
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If a nigga can march through the alps with fucking elephants, he deserves the title Chad
 
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top 3 generals of all time
 
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StressShady said:
You Phucking Bastard, that isn't some "Carthaginian general" He's the legendary Hannibal Barca
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Lol, I remember that movie.
Great horror movie Hannibal.
 
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Got mogged to death in the Second Punic War
 
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OrkRetardStrength said:
cope Genghis KHAN would rape this nafri nigger into the ground
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LMAO
GENGIS KHAN WAS NEVER A GENERAL YOU UNCULTERED MUTT CUCK
HIS GENERALS WERE SUBUTAI AND JEBE AND HANNIBAL WOULD RAPE TEMUJIN THE BITCH TO THE GROUND

WHITOUT SUBUTAI AND JEBE, GENGIS CUCK WOULD HAVE DONE NOTHING
 
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6ft1 said:
Got mogged to death in the Second Punic War
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Scipio was insane but we all know both opponents won at Cannae and Zama because of Numidians
 
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lutte said:
Gustavus Adolphus
Carolus XII
Jacob De la Gardie (only one to successfully have taken moscow)
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Imagine not having NAPOLEON BONAPARTE in your top 3. Also Frederik the great of Prussian.
 
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6ft1 said:
Imagine not having NAPOLEON BONAPARTE in your top 3. Also Frederik the great of Prussian.
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napoleon was a simp and frederic was pr*ssian
 
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lutte said:
napoleon was a simp and frederic was pr*ssian
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Still mad over Prussia conquering the Swedish Pomerania from you?
 
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6ft1 said:
Still mad over Prussia conquering the Swedish Pomerania from you?
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After the Treaty of Paris signed in 1810, the territory was returned to Sweden. In 1812, when French troops yet again marched into Pomerania, the Swedish Army mobilized and assisted against Napoleon in the Battle of Leipzig in 1813, together with troops from Russia, Prussia, and Austria. Sweden also attacked Denmark and, by the Treaty of Kiel on 14 January 1814, Sweden ceded Pomerania to Denmark in exchange for Norway.

I don't see this "conquest" you speak of
 
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lutte said:
After the Treaty of Paris signed in 1810, the territory was returned to Sweden. In 1812, when French troops yet again marched into Pomerania, the Swedish Army mobilized and assisted against Napoleon in the Battle of Leipzig in 1813, together with troops from Russia, Prussia, and Austria. Sweden also attacked Denmark and, by the Treaty of Kiel on 14 January 1814, Sweden ceded Pomerania to Denmark in exchange for Norway.

I don't see this "conquest" you speak of
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Prussia literally got all of Pomerania after the Napoleonic wars. Denmark only got Holstein.
 
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6ft1 said:
Don't make me link the Great Northern War homie :p
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30 yrs war

Great northern war was 1 v. 4 and it still took 21 years

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Prussia literally got all of Pomerania after the Napoleonic wars. Denmark only got Holstein.
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yes? point is it wasn't conquered by prussia
 
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6ft1 said:
Imagine not having NAPOLEON BONAPARTE in your top 3. Also Frederik the great of Prussian.
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Frederik is way overrated jfl, he is only remembered today cause Russia decided not to mog him cause the new Tsar was Danish and a fanboy of Frederick
 
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lutte said:
30 yrs war

Great northern war was 1 v. 4 and it still took 21 years


yes? point is it wasn't conquered by prussia
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It wasn't, the Swedish side had around 280k troops and British naval support while Russia was severely underdeveloped and had 350k troops.

Meanwhile Prussia fought Austrian Empire, Russia, France and Saxony and still won the Silesian wars, while being outnumbered 7:1. This is also why Friedrich der Große is arguably the greatest general in human history.
 
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TsarTsar444 said:
He was descent but definitely not top 5. Top 10 would be Napoleon, Nader Shah, Ceaser, Khalid, Alexander, Subotai, Alexandar Suvorov, Hannibal, Skenderbeg, Phyrus
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[Visiting Frederick's tomb after having conquered Prussia:]
Napoleon: "Gentlemen, if this man were still alive, I would not be here."

Your list is objectively bad.
 
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6ft1 said:
It wasn't, the Swedish side had around 280k troops and British naval support while Russia was severely underdeveloped and had 350k troops.

Meanwhile Prussia fought Austrian Empire, Russia, France and Saxony and still won the Silesian wars, while being outnumbered 7:1. This is also why Friedrich der Große is arguably the greatest general in human history.
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only against the danes at the beginning and against the russians at the end of the war lol

you coincidentally forgot to mention that friedrich also had british support
 
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TsarTsar444 said:
He was descent but definitely not top 5. Top 10 would be Napoleon, Nader Shah, Ceaser, Khalid, Alexander, Subotai, Alexandar Suvorov, Hannibal, Skenderbeg, Phyrus
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hello where are the swedes?
 
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lutte said:
only against the danes at the beginning and against the russians at the end of the war lol

you coincidentally forgot to mention that friedrich also had british support
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They pulled out of the war and weren't providing any land army support. They were focused on fighting in NA.
 
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6ft1 said:
[Visiting Frederick's tomb after having conquered Prussia:]
Napoleon: "Gentlemen, if this man were still alive, I would not be here."

Your list is objectively bad.
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It's not bad jfl, all of the people i mentioned were supreme generals. Also Napoleon larped about Frederick, if it wasnt from Tsarina Elizabetha dying russian troops would have mogged him hard. Also Hannibal was definitely in the top 3 best tacticians and logistians from history, he was just a bad strategist
 
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lutte said:
only against the danes at the beginning and against the russians at the end of the war lol

you coincidentally forgot to mention that friedrich also had british support
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But yes, I do count Sweden as having top 3 land army in 17th and 18th century. Alongside Prussia and France.
 
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TsarTsar444 said:
It's not bad jfl, all of the people i mentioned were supreme generals. Also Napoleon larped about Frederick, if it wasnt from Tsarina Elizabetha dying russian troops would have mogged him hard. Also Hannibal was definitely in the top 3 best tacticians and logistians from history, he was just a bad strategist
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Russia couldn't do shit because of their logistics. They weren't able to supply their huge army so far away from home.
 
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6ft1 said:
Russia couldn't do shit because of their logistics. They weren't able to supply their huge army so far away from home.
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Jfl yes they could, they already took the hearthland of Prussia and were marching on taking the capital, they had great logistics cause they were given resources from Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth which was at the time a semi puppet of the Russia
 
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statue make him chad looking.
 
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TsarTsar444 said:
Jfl yes they could, they already took the hearthland of Prussia and were marching on taking the capital, they had great logistics cause they were given resources from Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth which was at the time a semi puppet of the Russia
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It was an independent kingdom, in was destroyed in 2 partitions of Poland.

It became a puppet of Russia only in 1815 after the Congress of Vienna, when it was incorporated to the Russian tsardom
 
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6ft1 said:
It was an independent kingdom, in was destroyed in 2 partitions of Poland.

It became a puppet of Russia only in 1815 after the Congress of Vienna, when it was incorporated to the Russian tsardom
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That was just officially, by the middle 18th century it came closer and closer in Russian influence cause the polish ruler at the time was a lover of the Russian Queen, Poland gave acces to Russians during their war with Prussia. Also Russia already had troops very close to Berlin, they were already in Pomerania, but the new Tsar signed a truce cause he was a Nordic. Every historian will tell you that it would be over for Prussia if this didn't happen
 
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TsarTsar444 said:
That was just officially, by the middle 18th century it came closer and closer in Russian influence cause the polish ruler at the time was a lover of the Russian Queen, Poland gave acces to Russians during their war with Prussia. Also Russia already had troops very close to Berlin, they were already in Pomerania, but the new Tsar signed a truce cause he was a Nordic. Every historian will tell you that it would be over for Prussia if this didn't happen
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Stop with Poland, it's simply not true. It was a sovereign nation with full autonomy at the time.

Prussia might have lost parts of eastern Prussia but that's all. Austria was severely exhausted at the time and so was France who was beaten by the British.
 
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6ft1 said:
Stop with Poland, it's simply not true. It was a sovereign nation with full autonomy at the time.

Prussia might have lost parts of eastern Prussia but that's all. Austria was severely exhausted at the time and so was France who was beaten by the British.
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Jfl Prussia was extremely exhausted too, they had barealy an army to fight with anymore, russia was close in Poland with a huge army, the only nation not exhausted in the war was Russia cause it had a massive modern army with brilliant logistics and brilliant generals like Suvorov who btw never lost a battle and was a field marshal
 
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