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Test-E 250-500 mg
Primo 400-600 mg
Anavar 20-40 mg
Hgh 3-4 iu
 
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age, training experience, gear experience?
what's the point of cycle, to gain mass, strength, or cut?
do you want to do this again in the future or is it a one-time thing?
duration of the cycle?
 
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1.5 years of training on UL, 178lbs/80kg, 14.8% bf,

never used gear, have been doing research for a while, have money to buy and im just looking for conviction
You were barely in the gym. You still have 1.5 years as a beginner where you can most likely continue adding 5lbs each week.

If you want to go that way anyway - I would recommend
Weeks 1-10: Primo 400mg/week, Test E 250mg/week
Weeks 3-11: Anastrozole .5mg EOD

PCT: Week 14 tamox 40mg ED, Week 15 tamox 20mg ED, week 16 tamox 10mg ED
No HGH for this cycle.

Beware that I would not recommend running Primo + Test for a novice at all. But if for some obscure reason you want to run these compounds - that is how I would do it, consider running even lower dosages, depends on your starting blood work.

If you don't care about compounds and just want to run a cycle - my recommendations would be Oxymetholone + test
Oxymetholone - weeks 1-6, dosage 50mg ED
Test E - weeks 1-8, dosage 200mg every 3 days
Test P - weeks 9-10, dosage 100mg EOD
Tamox - week 11 dosage 30mg ED, week 12 dosage 30mg ED, week 13 dosage 20mg ED

If you are low on money - run Oxymetholone for 7 weeks, 50mg ED, and tamox weeks 8-10 20mg ED

Don't forget about blood work.

Seriously consider optimizing your training instead of injecting. Injecting has a lot of psychological side effects that people don't usually talk about. Especially when you are that young. Physiological side effects are scary too, for young people mainly, which you are.
 
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You were barely in the gym. You still have 1.5 years as a beginner where you can most likely continue adding 5lbs each week.

If you want to go that way anyway - I would recommend
Weeks 1-10: Primo 400mg/week, Test E 250mg/week
Weeks 3-11: Anastrozole .5mg EOD

PCT: Week 14 tamox 40mg ED, Week 15 tamox 20mg ED, week 16 tamox 10mg ED
No HGH for this cycle.

Beware that I would not recommend running Primo + Test for a novice at all. But if for some obscure reason you want to run these compounds - that is how I would do it, consider running even lower dosages, depends on your starting blood work.

If you don't care about compounds and just want to run a cycle - my recommendations would be Oxymetholone + test
Oxymetholone - weeks 1-6, dosage 50mg ED
Test E - weeks 1-8, dosage 200mg every 3 days
Test P - weeks 9-10, dosage 100mg EOD
Tamox - week 11 dosage 30mg ED, week 12 dosage 30mg ED, week 13 dosage 20mg ED

If you are low on money - run Oxymetholone for 7 weeks, 50mg ED, and tamox weeks 8-10 20mg ED

Don't forget about blood work.

Seriously consider optimizing your training instead of injecting. Injecting has a lot of psychological side effects that people don't usually talk about. Especially when you are that young. Physiological side effects are scary too, for young people mainly, which you are.
Thanks bro


One more question, would you recommend napsgear?
 
dont take steroids bro. train naturally for like 4-5 years dedicated and when you arent satisfied then hop on gear
 
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start with test only to see how you respond to it, slowly up the dose from a trt dose, ur first cycle is meant to be so u know how u respond to gear, then start slowly adding compounds, if u just jump on multiple stuff at once ur not gonna know what caused a side effect if you run into any and u wont know how to counteract them. also u gotta get organ imaging, ferility checks blood work (before during after cycle) and i wouldnt reccomend starting if your still going through puberty, have any medical issues and wanna pct (either stay on trt for life or never touch gear)
 
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start with test only to see how you respond to it, slowly up the dose from a trt dose, ur first cycle is meant to be so u know how u respond to gear, then start slowly adding compounds, if u just jump on multiple stuff at once ur not gonna know what caused a side effect if you run into any and u wont know how to counteract them. also u gotta get organ imaging, ferility checks blood work (before during after cycle) and i wouldnt reccomend starting if your still going through puberty, have any medical issues and wanna pct (either stay on trt for life or never touch gear)
Thanks, but I really wanna run anavar, maybe I could start with anavar and test?
 
Thanks, but I really wanna run anavar, maybe I could start with anavar and test?
idk why some people here say anavar is harmless compared to other drugs. Imo it's most certainly not a drug of choice for the first cycle
 
Thanks, but I really wanna run anavar, maybe I could start with anavar and test?
stop being so inpatient, get all the neccesary health checks before starting and start with test only, you can always add more compounds, u can watch people like vigorous steve and more plates moredates to get more info about it. and also if you dont have enough knowledge dont start and if you cant afford all the gear plus harm reduction (so you dont die at 40) then dont start. if you need more info about starting u can pm me
 
Would honestly at your age and based of your description test only, Throw in the primo when youre close to sub 10% body fat to really get the benefits of primo. Im on jusy 10mg every day Pre workout var and also 200 test and feel fuckin awesome. Will get on primo when im leaner to get that 3D look since lowkey flat cause low carb. m around the same body fat as you but noticing more defenition all around. You cutting or bulking?
 

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