RATE FIRST CYCLE

[energydrinker]

Isotretinoin 10mg 100 tablets
Finasteride 1mg 50 tablets
Minoxytop (Minoxidil 5mg) 50 tablets of 5mg
Melanotan-2 10mg 2ml vial
Pregnyl HCG 2000ui Box with 1 ampoule + Bacteriostatic Water (post cycle)
Cabergoline 0.25mg 20 tablets/pack (0.125 mg/tablet)
NPP Nandrolone Phenylpropionate 100mg/ml 1 vial of 10ml with 100 mg/ml x2
Testosterone Enanthate 250mg/ml 10 ampoules 250 mg/ml
Tamoxifen Citrate 10mg 100 tablets of 10mg
Clomiphene Citrate 25mg 100 Tablets (25mg/tablet)
+ Armidex

 

[energydrinker]

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[Bishoplol]

Isotretinoin 10mg 100 tablets

1g does nothing, i assume youre buying more afterwards

Testosterone Enanthate 250mg/ml 10 ampoules 250 mg/ml

1 ampoule = 1ml in which case youre getting enough for like a third of a beginner cycle. u need atleast 8-10ml for a good 15-20wk cycle of E

everything else is pretty mediocre aswell but i cba to comment on it

 

[energydrinker]

1g does nothing, i assume youre buying more afterwards

1 ampoule = 1ml in which case youre getting enough for like a third of a beginner cycle. u need atleast 8-10ml for a good 15-20wk cycle of E

everything else is pretty mediocre aswell but i cba to comment on it

yes im buying more afterwards.

im going to do 250-300 test per week

 

[Bishoplol]

yes im buying more afterwards.

im going to do 250-300 test per week

id do more research on dosing since 250-300 is pretty low. if thats what youve decided on then fine but its definitely suboptimal

 

[m0ss26]

im going to do 250-300 test per week

 

[Sepsin]

Isotretinoin 10mg 100 tablets
Finasteride 1mg 50 tablets
Minoxytop (Minoxidil 5mg) 50 tablets of 5mg
Melanotan-2 10mg 2ml vial
Pregnyl HCG 2000ui Box with 1 ampoule + Bacteriostatic Water (post cycle)
Cabergoline 0.25mg 20 tablets/pack (0.125 mg/tablet)
NPP Nandrolone Phenylpropionate 100mg/ml 1 vial of 10ml with 100 mg/ml x2
Testosterone Enanthate 250mg/ml 10 ampoules 250 mg/ml
Tamoxifen Citrate 10mg 100 tablets of 10mg
Clomiphene Citrate 25mg 100 Tablets (25mg/tablet)
+ Armidex

Good luck going bald.

Finasteride blocks 5-alpha-reductase, which prevents testosterone from converting to DHT, but it also prevents NPP from converting to dihydronandrolone (DHN).

Nandrolone, when reduced to DHN, is actually mild on the hair. But if it doesn’t get reduced to DHN (due to 5-AR inhibition), the parent hormone is much harsher on the hair follicles.

Honestly, it’s safer to drop the NPP entirely and just stick to testosterone, and taper up the dose if you plateau.

People underestimate how much muscle you can build with testosterone alone.

 

[energydrinker]

Good luck going bald.

Finasteride blocks 5-alpha-reductase, which prevents testosterone from converting to DHT, but it also prevents NPP from converting to dihydronandrolone (DHN).

Nandrolone, when reduced to DHN, is actually mild on the hair. But if it doesn’t get reduced to DHN (due to 5-AR inhibition), the parent hormone is much harsher on the hair follicles.

Honestly, it’s safer to drop the NPP entirely and just stick to testosterone, and taper up the dose if you plateau.

People underestimate how much muscle you can build with testosterone alone.

thanks bro actual great advice here love you

 

[Sepsin]

Isotretinoin 10mg 100 tablets
Finasteride 1mg 50 tablets
Minoxytop (Minoxidil 5mg) 50 tablets of 5mg
Melanotan-2 10mg 2ml vial
Pregnyl HCG 2000ui Box with 1 ampoule + Bacteriostatic Water (post cycle)
Cabergoline 0.25mg 20 tablets/pack (0.125 mg/tablet)
NPP Nandrolone Phenylpropionate 100mg/ml 1 vial of 10ml with 100 mg/ml x2
Testosterone Enanthate 250mg/ml 10 ampoules 250 mg/ml
Tamoxifen Citrate 10mg 100 tablets of 10mg
Clomiphene Citrate 25mg 100 Tablets (25mg/tablet)
+ Armidex

Also, hCG is smth for the cycle itself, do 250 IUs 3x p/ week (while on cycle).

Then, your PCT looks solid, but I'd switch clomiphene with enclomiphene.

It's much more selective and you'll have less potential sides.

 

[JOTAROSON]

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Изотретиноин 10 мг 100 таблеток
Финастерид 1 мг 50 таблеток
Минокситоп (миноксидил 5 мг) 50 таблеток по 5 мг
Флакон меланотан-2 10 мг 2 мл
Pregnyl HCG 2000 UI Box with 1 Ampool + Bakeriostatic Water (post cycle)
Каберголин 0,25 мг, 20 таблеток в упаковке (0,125 мг/таблетка)
Нандролона фенилпропионат 100 мг/мл, 1 флакон 10 мл, 2 флакона по 100 мг/мл.
Тестостерон энантат 250 мг/мл 10 ампул 250 мг/мл
Тамоксифена цитрат 10 мг, 100 таблеток по 10 мг.
Кломифен цитрат 25 мг, 100 таблеток (25 мг/таблетка)
+ Армидекс

Good first cicle, but i add Tereparatid/rozomosumab/mk677 for synergy

 

[Sepsin]

Also, hCG is smth for the cycle itself, do 250 IUs 3x p/ week (while on cycle).

Then, your PCT looks solid, but I'd switch clomiphene with enclomiphene.

It's much more selective and you'll have less potential sides.

but ideally, you'd just come back to cruise levels of test.

I'll do a 20-week cycle of test myself, but I DO NOT RECOMMEND IT.

Test is smth for life, therefore the blast n' cruise protocol is much better.

 

[Whirr22222]

Caber for 100 npp im crine

 

[Sepsin]

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Good first cicle, but i add Tereparatid/rozomosumab/mk677 for synergy

with all due respect, don't listen to this moron.

Unless you wanna pay for more than you need for stuff that really doesn't add anything significant.

 

[energydrinker]

Also, hCG is smth for the cycle itself, do 250 IUs 3x p/ week (while on cycle).

Then, your PCT looks solid, but I'd switch clomiphene with enclomiphene.

It's much more selective and you'll have less potential sides.

could you pm me your discord so i can text you if i need something

 

[Sepsin]

could you pm me your discord so i can text you if i need something

you disabled the hability for users to PM you.

PM me instead I'll drop you my discord @

 

[jawalrus]

agree with @Sepsin on the cruising part, if you need to knock a girl up just use hcg

i experience 0 sides on 250mg test/week 0 point hopping off, idgaf about pinning

going off roids is a horrible experience for literally everybody and you're guaranteed to lose muscle

 

[Bishoplol]

Also, hCG is smth for the cycle itself, do 250 IUs 3x p/ week (while on cycle).

it can be used for both but isnt necessary in either since the cycle appears to be short. your LH/FSH r still 0 so hCG would only end up helping with PCT. unless he just wants to fuck and keep his balls full, id keep hCG for PCT or skip entirely

 

[energydrinker]

agree with @Sepsin on the cruising part, if you need to knock a girl up just use hcg

i experience 0 sides on 250mg test/week 0 point hopping off, idgaf about pinning

going off roids is a horrible experience for literally everybody and you're guaranteed to lose muscle

yeahh but dont really want to do em 4 the rest of my life just 1 cycle tbh

 

[Sepsin]

agree with @Sepsin on the cruising part, if you need to knock a girl up just use hcg

i experience 0 sides on 250mg test/week 0 point hopping off, idgaf about pinning

going off roids is a horrible experience for literally everybody and you're guaranteed to lose muscle

yeah this is true.

But I'm assuming you'll be doing TRT for life then, correct?

 

[energydrinker]

yeah this is true.

But I'm assuming you'll be doing TRT for life then, correct?

just 1 cycle

 

[Bishoplol]

just 1 cycle

trt isnt a cycle

 

[Sepsin]

it can be used for both but isnt necessary in either since the cycle appears to be short. your LH/FSH r still 0 so hCG would only end up helping with PCT. unless he just wants to fuck and keep his balls full, id keep hCG for PCT or skip entirely

well yea, I agree that since it's pnly 1 cycle hCG is not as important.

But it'll aid with PCT success later on, as well as prevent your balls from shrinking (in case that happens)

 

[energydrinker]

trt isnt a cycle

i know, i dont want to do trt just want to do 1 cycle

 

[Bishoplol]

i know, i dont want to do trt just want to do 1 cycle

then increase dose to 500mg and listen to everything else @Sepsin said, high iq user

 

[jawalrus]

yeah this is true.

But I'm assuming you'll be doing TRT for life then, correct?

yes most likely, i have the money and i'm not retarded

my LTR is aware of everything too so that's not a problem

yeahh but dont really want to do em 4 the rest of my life just 1 cycle tbh

understandable



pretty sure there are some anecdotes where people managed to restore HPTA after years of blasting and cruising too

THAT IS ALL ANECDOTES DONT JUST. BLAST N CRUISE CUZ SOME PEOPLE HAD ANECDOTES OF RECOVERY

 

[Sepsin]

just 1 cycle

I was questioning the other guy lol.

i know, i dont want to do trt just want to do 1 cycle

like I mentioned though TRT will always be ideal over 1 cycle.

But if you're like me and can't wrap your mind around doing TRT for life, limit your expectations and understand that you'll feel like shit once you PCT (as well as lose a LOT of gains).

 

[jawalrus]

i know, i dont want to do trt just want to do 1 cycle

if ur gonna do one cycle do 500mgs lmao


0 difference in side effects between 250 and 500mgs for most people

maybe some after long term use but you're not going to be on them long term anyways

 

[ascendedd]

if ur gonna do one cycle do 500mgs lmao


0 difference in side effects between 250 and 500mgs for most people

maybe some after long term use but you're not going to be on them long term anyways

he can always titrate up. Some people have high aromatization, starting on 500mg might fuck him up. bad advice

 

[jawalrus]

he can always titrate up. Some people have high aromatization, starting on 500mg might fuck him up. bad advice

mb yeah i didn't mention that

there's a youtuber called vigoroussteve that summarizes this shit pretty well

start at 250 test, then see how much you can increase without horrible sides

 

[JOTAROSON]

with all due respect, don't listen to this moron.

Unless you wanna pay for more than you need for stuff that really doesn't add anything significant.

Pay? Lol they literally cost pennies. These drugs are currently among the most powerful on bone formation.

 

[Sepsin]

Pay? Lol they literally cost pennies. These drugs are currently among the most powerful on bone formation.

alright bro

if you think you’ll grow your bones by taking them, then I don’t have anything else to say.

 

[JOTAROSON]

Ладно, братан.

Если вы думаете, что, принимая их, ваши кости укрепятся, то мне больше нечего сказать.

БWithout being negative, what do you think can increase them?

 

[Sepsin]

БWithout being negative, what do you think can increase them?

bone formation?

maybe gh during puberty, but even that probably doesn’t work.

Most studies that show substancial bone formation due to gh are done on mice with dosages that are so much greater than what people take.

 

[Snow19]

Isotretinoin 10mg 100 tablets
Finasteride 1mg 50 tablets
Minoxytop (Minoxidil 5mg) 50 tablets of 5mg
Melanotan-2 10mg 2ml vial
Pregnyl HCG 2000ui Box with 1 ampoule + Bacteriostatic Water (post cycle)
Cabergoline 0.25mg 20 tablets/pack (0.125 mg/tablet)
NPP Nandrolone Phenylpropionate 100mg/ml 1 vial of 10ml with 100 mg/ml x2
Testosterone Enanthate 250mg/ml 10 ampoules 250 mg/ml
Tamoxifen Citrate 10mg 100 tablets of 10mg
Clomiphene Citrate 25mg 100 Tablets (25mg/tablet)
+ Armidex

250mg test is not really a cycle, more like trt. Will still get you jacked tho