Rate/Improvements 6'3 ltn? orthos fucked me

thats unfortunate man most people get screwed over by orthos and dont even realize tho. also i just realized ur name u like japanese archive?
yea got a meeting w a surgeon soon, also yea im into archive n stuff I'm nichemaxxed fr
 
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yea got a meeting w a surgeon soon, also yea im into archive n stuff I'm nichemaxxed fr
thats cool man are you talking about jaw surgery or mse?
 
thats cool man are you talking about jaw surgery or mse?
imma ask him abt both, ts is tough fr my self esteem is back in the dumps again
 
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imma ask him abt both, ts is tough fr my self esteem is back in the dumps again
what country are you in and who do you plan on going to
 
imma ask him abt both, ts is tough fr my self esteem is back in the dumps again
Wish you the best of luck, your case is one of the few that's truly unfortunate, you don't deserve any of it.
 
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Wish you the best of luck, your case is one of the few that's truly unfortunate, you don't deserve any of it.
yea the copes wearing off lol im pretty cooked, I'm gonna be fine after surgery and all the other stuff lol but waiting it out is gonna suck. sad to think abt how different itd be if i just grew up normally cus my genetics r great in literally every other category.
 
america, no clue yet lol gotta wait anyway just gonna talk to someone local
newaz is the best for mse in the united states and someone local most likely doesnt even know what mse is
 
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newaz is the best for mse in the united states and someone local most likely doesnt even know what mse is
ill check him out yea, mse and marpe r the same thing tho no? ik mse is a type of marpe but idk whats different. if they know what marpe is then i think its all good cus my ortho did
 
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ill check him out yea, mse and marpe r the same thing tho no? ik mse is a type of marpe but idk whats different. if they know what marpe is then i think its all good cus my ortho did
Does your ortho actually do it though? and yeah theyre the same thing but fme (funny name ik) is what you want now its the new version of mse only newaz and some guy in las vegas do it rn im pretty sure
 
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ill check him out yea, mse and marpe r the same thing tho no? ik mse is a type of marpe but idk whats different. if they know what marpe is then i think its all good cus my ortho did
i can invite you to a discord server abt it with a lot of people that are patients rn since u seem like u really need it
 
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i can invite you to a discord server abt it with a lot of people that are patients rn since u seem like u really need it
yea itd be greatly appreciated, just message me it or something
 
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i can invite you to a discord server abt it with a lot of people that are patients rn since u seem like u really need it
do you know if people got similar results to the reddit post i linked in my original post, his zygo expansion was crazy. i remember reading about fme and it seems like most of the results arent that noticeable facially.
 
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do you know if people got similar results to the reddit post i linked in my original post, his zygo expansion was crazy. i remember reading about fme and it seems like most of the results arent that noticeable facially.
fme should just be way better but it depends on the patient i think
 
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no bullshit bro just rate or give tips
this pics kinda old so my uee is shit cus im not squinting or angling my head right
current plan is mse/marpe for wider midface, it pushes the zygos out "" this guy got good results. also chin reduction I guess, dk if jaw implants would be better like this or if i should get a chin reduction first, gonial implants or sum like that dk yet my ramus is stupid short
i got 4 premolar extractions from retard orthos and had pretty shit posture and mouth breathed cus of how narrow my palette was yet they didn't even fix it. so yea I'm super down grown w a narrow face that's sunken in/flat sort of from extractions
give softmaxxing/hardmaxxing tips
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dude its genuinely over good lordd:lul:
 
dude its genuinely over good lordd:lul:
the internet isnt a real place my irl experiences are proof its not over 😁 heightpill is real
 
bro 6'3 isnt tall life starts at 6'6
true but manlet cope lol im 3rd tallest at my school, if I was like 5'8 id actually be incel. 6'3 is still 93rd percentile and i can fraud 6'5 easily
 
what can i do in the mean time until i can hardmax lol
 
He has a good eye area and yours is severely below average
its an old pic lol n bad angle, but jaw wise do u think we are in similar situations? i wonder what is x-ray looks like cus his chin got shorter too lol. i don't think mine would get shorter even if it was rotated cus its grown like very vertically down. so probably chin shortening later depending on how it goes i guess
 
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i feel like i got the same head shape as eric balfour lol lmk
 

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