Rate Influencer's Clavicle Width

[greycel]

He also does benefit from the illusion of wider shoulders:

• High lat insertions
• Overdeveloped Lats
• Overdeveloped shoulders
• Underdeveloped Traps
• Shorter Arm length
• Narrow Waist
• Good Clavicle Shape

This is excluding his wide clavicles.

Guess the rarity % of his clavicle width relative to height?
What that means is, it's how one's frame looks respective to their height (taller people have objectively wider frames, but they look relatively narrower on their bodies).

A lot of you might be confused about why I included the 1/1,000,000, but if you think logically.. all those people who are IFBB pros have very wide clavicle lengths for their height at extreme rarities. You might see him as comparable to them, given he is completely natural

This is Jeff Seid - in his late teens (untrained):

 

[greycel]

The video:

 

[CD34]

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He also does benefit from the illusion of wider shoulders:

• High lat insertions
• Overdeveloped Lats
• Overdeveloped shoulders
• Underdeveloped Traps
• Shorter Arm length
• Narrow Waist

This is excluding his wide clavicles.

Guess the rarity % of his clavicle width relative to height?
What that means is, it's how one's frame looks respective to their height (taller people have objectively wider frames, but they look relatively narrower on their bodies).

A lot of you might be confused about why I included the 1/1,000,000, but if you think logically.. all those people who are IFBB pros have very wide clavicle lengths for their height at extreme rarities. You might see him as comparable to them, given he is completely natural

This is Jeff Seid - in his late teens (untrained):
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Wide waist cel

 

[greycel]

Wide waist cel

It's good to have a wide waist for power/functionality (generating torque), in nature
Bad for bodybuilding/aesthetics

He actually has a narrow waist, his obliques are developed as he trains Calisthenics + has stubborn fat there

 

[greycel]

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@Clavicular @pfl @Daddy's Home @moggerofhumanity @chadbeingmade @Jonasㅤㅤ

 

[Everythingislaw]

i dont know about percentages but most weeks i dont see anyone as wide as him and he looks like a fuckin square so he is gotta be very wide.

what would you say about my frame, just the bone structure?

 

[Duke Archer]

Rate influencer clavicular's width

 

[greycel]

View attachment 3925174i dont know about percentages but most weeks i dont see anyone as wide as him and he looks like a fuckin square so he is gotta be very wide. View attachment 3925179what would you say about my frame, just the bone structure?

Bare in mind though, that he works out everyday + also benefits perfectly from every trait for illusion of wide shoulders too
Most people don't work out that much, let alone benefit in other things that'll aid with perception of wide shoulders

Yours is above average, top 20% easily. But it's hard to say unless you develop your delts + traps too
It's an unfair comparison for you

 

[Everythingislaw]

Bare in mind though, that he works out everyday + also benefits perfectly from every trait for illusion of wide shoulders too
Most people don't work out that much, let alone benefit in other things that'll aid with perception of wide shoulders

Okay but even then his skull size seems to be at least average(probably above when we consider his overall skeletal structure) and each of his traps seem to be as wide as his bizygomatic measurement and that alone puts him in a are percentage. And you wont change the length of your traps unless you started out with a shitty posture which is not the case for most people.

 

[pentamogged9000]

View attachment 3925174i dont know about percentages but most weeks i dont see anyone as wide as him and he looks like a fuckin square so he is gotta be very wide. View attachment 3925179what would you say about my frame, just the bone structure?

your base is fine

 

[greycel]

Okay but even then his skull size seems to be at least average(probably above when we consider his overall skeletal structure) and each of his traps seem to be as wide as his bizygomatic measurement and that alone puts him in a are percentage. And you wont change the length of your traps unless you started out with a shitty posture which is not the case for most people.

Overdeveloped lats help for scapular stability/support + the amount of width you can naturally gain from working out is huge, when compared to those who don't + him being lean and the shape of deltoids play an influence + he trains calisthenics, so he doesn't use much trap activation - helping illusion

All this being said, I still placed his rarity at less than 1/10,000 by the way

 

[chadbeingmade]

This is Jeff Seid - in his late teens (untrained):

Apparently he was 13 years old there.

This is late teens apparently (17)

 

[LTNUser]

Apparently he was 13 years old there.

This is late teens apparently (17)
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Damn,he was already that good at 13

 

[greycel]

Apparently he was 13 years old there.

This is late teens apparently (17)
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Damn,he was already that good at 13

I figure Jeff decreased his age slightly by a few years
Also @chadbeingmade what did you put for his rarity? It might help looking at the video

I don't think I've seen anybody before in person who had that width for that height. Also on social media, this is incredibly rare.. and social media already shows the top percentiles

 

[chadbeingmade]

I figure Jeff decreased his age slightly by a few years

Possible. I just went off what I saw in the transformation videos. Maybe he larped idk.

Also @

@chadbeingmade what did you put for his rarity? It might help looking at the video

I put him at 0.1-1%

 

[moggerofhumanity]

Top <0.01% imo.
That’s one of the weirdest looking build/guy I’ve ever seen. Wtf is this?

 

[gooner23]

idk if there is a difference but his shoulder bone compare to his actual clavicle is legitmately massive which kinda gives him that caveman apperance more than someone like ethan

 

[greycel]

idk if there is a difference but his shoulder bone compare to his actual clavicle is legitmately massive which kinda gives him that caveman apperance more than someone like ethan
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What do you mean by this?

I came to the same conclusion - he looks like a caveman build
I've also had the same feeling, looking at people like this:

But I think the 2 above are because of wide waist + wide shoulders.
The one I posted in original post is for a different reason

 

[gooner23]

What do you mean by this?

I came to the same conclusion - he looks like a caveman build
I've also had the same feeling, looking at people like this:
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But I think the 2 above are because of wide waist + wide shoulders.
The one I posted in original post is for a different reason

his actual shoulder bone is just ridiculously wide and his arms skeletally just seems massive in general relative to his torso
not really something like phil heath where his delt fullness and insertions gave him his vtaper instead of skeletal

 

[greycel]

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his actual shoulder bone is just ridiculously wide and his arms skeletally just seems massive in general relative to his torso
not really something like phil heath where his delt fullness and insertions gave him his vtaper instead of skeletal

So you think it's because of shoulder bones, less to do with clavicle length?
It's interesting looking at his physique, he has 3d delts yet he is completely natural too

@Saint Casanova what do you think? Is it clavicle length, shoulder bone width, or what you once said about clavicle shape allowing him to put on good muscle mass there?

 

[greycel]

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