Rate me boyos - 23 years old and 177cm

Never mind.
Btw, angle is not related to lense distortion
Fair enough.
Good lower third.. good eye halo.. UUE is ruining your eye harmony. I dont know you look normie to me because of eye area.
So you don't think I should think about getting jaw surgery? Several of the other guys recommended it.
 
Fair enough.

So you don't think I should think about getting jaw surgery? Several of the other guys recommended it.

It seems fine to me.. Lens distortion usually make it look very thin but in reality its much more wider.. Here is good example.
 

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It seems fine to me.. Lens distortion usually make it look very thin but in reality its much more wider.. Here is good example.
I think they meant from the side angles, that my chin looks a bit recessed there. From the front it's fine I think yea.
 
Mogga me chad
 
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normie but ur profile is shit and ur frame is small
 
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oh shit your profile is bad. main issues are hairline upper eyelids and profile
So when posting pics for Tinder and such I should stick to pics that are from the front? Lowkey wanna keep the bunny pic from the side tho, chicks love the bunny jfl
 
Manlet and balding, get lifts and start a hair protocol already.
 
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So when posting pics for Tinder and such I should stick to pics that are from the front? Lowkey wanna keep the bunny pic from the side tho, chicks love the bunny jfl
the rabbit photo isnt anywhere near as bad as the food photo in terms of profile and hairline. i think that side is worse
 
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the rabbit photo isnt anywhere near as bad as the food photo in terms of profile and hairline. i think that side is worse
Yeah I don't use the other photo on Tinder anyways, from my observation a shirtless picture like that on Tinder gets you more left swipes automatically, because they just assume you are a douche.
Manlet and balding, get lifts and start a hair protocol already.
What would you recommend for the hair? I am really hesitant about finasteride because I had gyno in puberty and I've heard that's one of finasteride's side effects. And considering I had before it would pretty likely come back for me. I would rather go bald than get gyno again jfl, that shit destroyed me mentally when I was like 15-18.
 
Yeah I don't use the other photo on Tinder anyways, from my observation a shirtless picture like that on Tinder gets you more left swipes automatically, because they just assume you are a douche.

What would you recommend for the hair? I am really hesitant about finasteride because I had gyno in puberty and I've heard that's one of finasteride's side effects. And considering I had before it would pretty likely come back for me. I would rather go bald than get gyno again jfl, that shit destroyed me mentally when I was like 15-18.
You should start fin and minox, you can also add antiandrogens such as fluridil, alfatradiol, RU, etc.
You have to actually test stuff to see if you get sides with it, you can buy raloxifene/tamoxifene and if you get any signs of gyno (which you wont) then you can use it and get rid of the gyno. OR YOU CAN JUST SHAVE IT BRO, SHAVE IT.

PS: JFL at trading a peanut head for gyno, gyno surgery erradication forever is like few hundred bux in a third world shithole and 2-3k in a western country.
 
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6-7/10 but social-maxxed
Softmaxes:
fix your hair with fin and minox

Hardmaxes: (would literally push you into chad-hood level, 8-9/10)
Upper eyelid surgery to get hooded hunter eyes, no idea what prices are in Eastern Europe, but usually stuff is affordable and surgeons are good
 
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The only thing you can do is rhinoplasty, other than that you are fine.
Don't get a hair transplant and def do not take finasteride or shit like that unless a dermatologist actually tells you you are losing way too much hair
 
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How bluepilled is this forum getting... some people rating this guy a chadlite?
 
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6-7/10 but social-maxxed
Softmaxes:
fix your hair with fin and minox

Hardmaxes: (would literally push you into chad-hood level, 8-9/10)
Upper eyelid surgery to get hooded hunter eyes, no idea what prices are in Eastern Europe, but usually stuff is affordable and surgeons are good
How can people assume social skills etc from pictures like these? Is it the bunny pic? Genuinely curious haha.
You should start fin and minox, you can also add antiandrogens such as fluridil, alfatradiol, RU, etc.
You have to actually test stuff to see if you get sides with it, you can buy raloxifene/tamoxifene and if you get any signs of gyno (which you wont) then you can use it and get rid of the gyno. OR YOU CAN JUST SHAVE IT BRO, SHAVE IT.

PS: JFL at trading a peanut head for gyno, gyno surgery erradication forever is like few hundred bux in a third world shithole and 2-3k in a western country.
What are your thoughts on microneedling tho? Been watching a lot of More Plates More Dates on Youtube and he seems to be a big fan of it.
 
How can people assume social skills etc from pictures like these? Is it the bunny pic? Genuinely curious haha.
because you know how to dress yourself, go to the gym and actually leave your house.

but your Upper eyelid exposure is really the one thing costing you lots in term of sex appeal, ask some guys on here to morph you with hunter eyes, the difference would be huge
@eduardkoopman is a master-morpher
 
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How can people assume social skills etc from pictures like these? Is it the bunny pic? Genuinely curious haha.

What are your thoughts on microneedling tho? Been watching a lot of More Plates More Dates on Youtube and he seems to be a big fan of it.
Yeah, microneedling is a must, 0,5mm every 2-3 days, 1,5mm once a week, or whatever protocol you fancy. Im doing them all tbh, and not even NW2, it's worthed.
 
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because you know how to dress yourself, go to the gym and actually leave your house.

but your Upper eyelid exposure is really the one thing costing you lots in term of sex appeal, ask some guys on here to morph you with hunter eyes, the difference would be huge
@eduardkoopman is a master-morpher
@eduardkoopman could you do a morph for me please, good sir?
 
5.5/10
 
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I mean you don't look bad but you look way older than 23, I would say 30 at least
 
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I mean you don't look bad but you look way older than 23, I would say 30 at least
It's the facial hair. Without it people sometimes tell me I look like 17. But probably the seborrheic dermatitis on my skin is making me look older as well tbh. Trying to fix it, but it is a pain in the ass. Anyone got any advice with seb derm?
 
actually @Kingkellz is also very good at morphing.

can you try to fix his Upper eyelid exposure?
lowered the eyebrows only
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actually @Kingkellz is also very good at morphing.

can you try to fix his Upper eyelid exposure?
quit difficult to fix upper eyelid exposure in morps. A little bit in this one.
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Face lacks width and zygos = not enough masculine. Could ascend with fillers.
Manletism is also a failo for him, so lifts are a must have.
 
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Maybe high tier Chadlite.
If I get that+ double jaw surgery, will I ascend? Probably going to get the double jaw surgery anyways tbh, already booked a consultation for tomorrow with a surgeon. I've been having trouble breathing through my nose my whole life and keep waking up non-stop during the night, so very high chance I have sleep apnea.
 
If I get that+ double jaw surgery, will I ascend? Probably going to get the double jaw surgery anyways tbh, already booked a consultation for tomorrow with a surgeon. I've been having trouble breathing through my nose my whole life and keep waking up non-stop during the night, so very high chance I have sleep apnea.
i guess potentially.
But need to check proportions. Because turning into a big jawed dalton = botched.
Surgeons make morphs, before they do it. I guess., I hope.
 
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i guess potentially.
But need to check proportions. Because turning into a big jawed dalton = botched.
Surgeons make morphs, before they do it. I guess., I hope.
Btw, is it the same in other countries that you have to wait like a year before you can get an orthodontist appointment? Called like 5 of them today and the earliest I could get an appointment would be in December 2021. What the fuck? Hence I decided to go straight to a surgeon consultation.
 
Btw, is it the same in other countries that you have to wait like a year before you can get an orthodontist appointment? Called like 5 of them today and the earliest I could get an appointment would be in December 2021. What the fuck? Hence I decided to go straight to a surgeon consultation.
I guess corona stuff, happenings backlogs. I dunno how it is here
 
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Asd

Really shitty morph, but i think its better. You are a high-tier normie cuz you lack of bones. i just improved your eye area and your non-existant cheekbones. your jaw is fine from front but do not ever turn your head for your own good. A few milimeters of bones tbh.
 
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Really shitty morph, but i think its better. You are a high-tier normie cuz you lack of bones. i just improved your eye area and your non-existant cheekbones. your jaw is fine from front but do not ever turn your head for your own good. A few milimeters of bones tbh.
Would double jaw surgery bring out the cheekbones a bit or would I need something else for that?
 
mewing doesn't work, sorry man :( id still do it for raising your hyoid and making sure ur recession doesn't get worse though.


yeah you should get that checked. might be a deviated septum and you probably have airway constriction and apnea as well.

do a CT scan and a maxfac if you really want advice with bimax though.
of course mewing works
 
Would double jaw surgery bring out the cheekbones a bit or would I need something else for that?
I don't think double jaw surgery would make any effect on your cheekbones. You can search for cheekbone filler and also upper eyelid filler. You look decent though, you shouldn't have any problem with girls especially for long term. Calculate your improvement/risk ratio before doing any surgery.
 
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actually @Kingkellz is also very good at morphing.

can you try to fix his Upper eyelid exposure?
I actually suck at morphing imho
No idea how I would be able to morph with less uee ngl :(
 
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Buy a new eye area in the shop and you will be chad
 
You can never change that face ratio



Get a eply wraparound shotgun and try again
 
Fair enough.

So you don't think I should think about getting jaw surgery? Several of the other guys recommended it.
Infraorbital rim implants would be the best looksmax, its not ultra expensive or dangerous like jaw surgery is (and recovery is nowhere near as long or as painful as jaw surgery).

It also looks very natural, carries low risk to look 'off' like implants in other areas risk.

Do you have sleep apnea at all? Wake up in middle of night with very dry mouth?
 
Infraorbital rim implants would be the best looksmax, its not ultra expensive or dangerous like jaw surgery is (and recovery is nowhere near as long or as painful as jaw surgery).

It also looks very natural, carries low risk to look 'off' like implants in other areas risk.

Do you have sleep apnea at all? Wake up in middle of night with very dry mouth?
Been having trouble sleeping my whole life. Constantly wake up like 5 times during the night and a dry mouth indeed as well. Nose is 24/7 clogged as well. Just lately started reading more about proper tongue posture etc and trying to make it a habit now. My tongue has been chilling at the bottom of my mouth for my whole life. How is it possible that proper tongue posture was not taught to us when we were younger?

Anyways I will be visiting a jaw surgeon today for a consultation. I wanted to go to an orthodontist first, but it is impossible to get a time before December 2021 fml.
 
Been having trouble sleeping my whole life. Constantly wake up like 5 times during the night and a dry mouth indeed as well. Nose is 24/7 clogged as well. Just lately started reading more about proper tongue posture etc and trying to make it a habit now. My tongue has been chilling at the bottom of my mouth for my whole life. How is it possible that proper tongue posture was not taught to us when we were younger?

Anyways I will be visiting a jaw surgeon today for a consultation. I wanted to go to an orthodontist first, but it is impossible to get a time before December 2021 fml.

Get jaw surgery first then, but do know that you will want upper midface implants afterwards (infraorbital or full cheekbone implants).

I just had bimax CCW 3 weeks ago, already its clear I will need implants to regain balance between upper midface and lower midface.

PM me if you have any questions about it.
 
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