Awesome, thank you. I don't think it's a T problem, since my height, voice and muscle-building ability are all fine or above average. I'll try that stuff though, thanks for the advice.
Thanks so much. I'll save that picture and use it as reference. I hadn't thought about neck training actually, I mostly just focus on arms, chest, abs and cardio. Thanks for pointing it out.
IT IS OVER GO ER ER BOYO
Nah fam
Good mindset
You're flying in the face of PSL hair theory by telling a guy with a long midface and long face in general to get a haircut with short sides.
Not really, having big puffy sides makes an already narrow face look even narrower.
I don't know because being nice makes you feel good about yourself and stuff. I'm a very cynical person
Thanks for the feedback, some really helpful advice. I have quite a high natural hairline, yeah, though it's not receding as some people insist, I swear. I don#t think I would ever go super short or buzz, but I'm open to making it shorter on top r getting a fringe to mitigate my forehead height. There's no way I'm getting surgery, I don't think my issues are that extreme and I have no intention of trying to look like a model or some shit, just normal. I'd like to focus on how I can improve my hair/clothes/style so that I can change it but also to simply be aware of my facial shortcomings.Your hairline looks really high up..
have you ever done buzzcut?
I swear some of you guys are nuts recommending fucking surgery etc..
The guy looks fine facially.. his problem is his grungey-video-game-geek-incel image he's projecting.
Haircut, or even get a buzzcut (like me haha). skincare routine with decent stuff
Stop wearing black t-shirts.. ala Blackops2cel.
Wear nice clothes - cheerfully coloured casual shirts & jeans
The shitty smartphone selfie camera qualitydoes not help things either
You looked better then
Good to know, thanks
Don't listen to these retards. You're *above average* with a lot of potential. You have a good eye area but your eyebrows are non existent and those bags need to be gone. You need to thicken them and make them appear fuller. You also have a narrow chin which is likely the worst thing about your face. You can make it look better by growing out a short beard. Also, you're well built and 6'2? All you need to do it actively look for a GF and you'll certainly get one, and don't fucking mope around asking your female friends for ratings jfl. That kind of insecure behaviour is like a repellent
Thank you so much man, that's really nice of you to say, some good pointers too so thanks for that. I'm working on finding something to treat my eye-bags and am looking into facial hair growth treatment since I can't grow any currently. A short beard and eye-bag treatment are definitely on the agenda.
Cut my hair slightly shorter on top. Any better? Worse?
Thanks for the feedback. Your profile GIF is horrifying btw, I love it XD
Good to know, thank you. I'll try growing it out on the sides and switching back to how it was. Any thoughts on the updated picture I just posted? I tried taking some off the top and making it less 'mop-ish'.
Yes it definitely looks better, you look better in this pic than in the first pics you posted, in this pic your face looks less narrow and long, probably because the angle is better.
If the normal stuff like creams doesn't work you could get fat grafting or fillers in the undereye area.
Common theme on this site; whenever one guy in a thread says it's over people start dogpiling on the OP hard, especially if they seem clueless/newfag/vulnerable.
Yeah admittedly those first pictures I posted were taken in my room at 5am so the lighting was bad and I was really tired. Not the best time to try to take a picture in hindsight. That recent one is from today in a better lit area, so that probably makes a difference.Yes it definitely looks better, you look better in this pic than in the first pics you posted, in this pic your face looks less narrow and long, probably because the angle is better.
If the normal stuff like creams doesn't work you could get fat grafting or fillers in the undereye area.
I'm beginning to see that that may have been the case, yeah. I was pretty fucking bummed out by those first few responses, not gonna lie XD Like I figured I was bellow average but looking at that first page again... jesus I wasn't expecting that. I can kinda see that it's more a case of 'shit on the newfag' now.
NT stands for neurotypical, aka not mentally ill or autistic like 90% of users here. Given that you don't use PSL lingo or respond with rope emojis I figured that was a reasonable assumption to make. Personality is a meme, but autism definitely repels foids hard. You're already effectively on the right foot compared to some lookism sperg 2 points above you in looks.
Oh neurotypical! Of course, that makes sense now, thanks. Yeah I have no history of mental illness, and I'm a 4th year psych student so if I did; it would have been picked up on by now. I make male and female friends easily and I'm good at reading people and conversing, so definitely not autistic and probably don't give off creep vibes either.
You autist what the fuck do you want us to reccomend? Of course you talk about hairlines all day you bald piece of shit.
ur chin is recessed ur eyebags make u look like u haven't seen happy days in a long time and u have no joy in life, u have a fivehead and ur hair is thinnig.
Well said
Thanks for the feedback man
Thanks a lot man, that's reassuring. I'm starting to see which comments contain genuine feedback and which ones are going over-board. I'm taking mental note of the stuff that's being mentioned consistently in well-worded responses. This will be helpful for making improvements.
Yeah the eyebags seem to be a very consistent criticism. I'm going to do my best to correct them but they've been like that for a while, no matter how much I sleep. I'm going to try tretinoin and maybe altering my diet, see if that helps. I'm not miserable though, even though my face might look that way in these pictures, I smile and emote a lot more IRLur chin is recessed ur eyebags make u look like u haven't seen happy days in a long time and u have no joy in life, u have a fivehead and ur hair is thinnig.
Thank you. I don't mind the general tone of messages here, I get it's for lulz but that guy in particular had some issues.
as I said, this community is way too toxic so dont worry dude You really just are an average guy and if you aren't model tier they're going to call you ugly in here. You're plain average and your looks will not stop you from achieving anything as long as you're not an aspie like 90% of people browsing this forum.
Yes brah spot on he is average to normal people but in PSL lingo he is slightly below average not bad but not good looking either.
exactly
Mogs me.
That's all I was ever really hoping to hear. "You look unremarkable, don't worry about it" basically. Being aware of the flaws I do have and getting honest opinions is very helpful though, there's always room for improvement.
I appreciate the feedback, the general consensus seems to be that (at least in terms of my face) I'm around a 4 but could go up to a 5 with some improvements, and that's all I really want. I wouldn't act like a Chad even if I looked like one so practically speaking; normality is all I require.
he doesn't have nct
Philtrum, Nose, Negative eye tilt, uneven in general, chin. You look wierd. Eye wrinkles make your eyelid exposure super subhuman. Normally it would be fine but...
repping a ketwig is underated ngl
That is how I coped for a long time.
surgery is a normal thing to get. Jfl surgery cant make people models just improve slightly.
atleast ur not miserable, that is a big step
Not much more than normal, gym twice a week, boxing once a week and back and forth to college. I'm not out surfing or climbing mountains and working the fields and shit, but I do leave the house and do physical stuff.
True. If I had a normie-tier gf I'd be basically problem free. The rest of my life (besides my looks-based insecurities and shortcomings) is pretty decent.
Its fine then. Maybe get your hormones checked(cortisol and test importantly).
Cool, thank you. A lot of that seems to be recurring advice here so I've made an itinerary and will work on the stuff people are pointing out as best I can.
Maybe I should get a hormone check, I never have. My neotenous face and lack of facial hair would indicate low-T but my height and deeper voice would suggest otherwise. I'll have to get checked. Thanks for the advice.
for srtylemaxxing either thugmaxx with hats,plain tshirts chains or cool guy type vnecks jeans rayban aviators short beard medium hair
I'll go with the latter. I already own some ray ban aviators that I always get compliments for and growing a beard is already second from the top on my list of shit to fix about my face. I don't like v-necks though.
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