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Rn I think I’m a 4 or 4.5 but lmk what I can improve

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what do u think I can improve on? I think my face is super narrow and my eyes are far apart and I could fix up my eye area. Do u agree or u think it’s something else ?High ltn-low mtn
Depends on your age if you're closer to 18 or done with puberty then it might be time to look at hardmax but honestly debloating will do a lot for you. Your eyes are a little wide but honestly not too much to really be considered a bad feature and maybe chewing to widen lower third slightly would help.what do u think I can improve on? I think my face is super narrow and my eyes are far apart and I could fix up my eye area. Do u agree or u think it’s something else ?
I’m 16 rn and I think I started puberty last years cs that’s when I started growing facial hair, but wouldn’t debloating js make my face look even narrower ? and would u also say im a hltn ?Depends on your age if you're closer to 18 or done with puberty then it might be time to look at hardmax but honestly debloating will do a lot for you. Your eyes are a little wide but honestly not too much to really be considered a bad feature and maybe chewing to widen lower third slightly would help.
if you think you started puberty last year that's a good sign but facial hair isn't exactly the best determiner for puberty, try to consider other things like a sudden growth spurt at tanner stage 2-3, onset of pubic hair, voice changes, etcI’m 16 rn and I think I started puberty last years cs that’s when I started growing facial hair, but wouldn’t debloating js make my face look even narrower ? and would u also say im a hltn ?
Get longer dreads to help conceal the narrowness of your faceRn I think I’m a 4 or 4.5 but lmk what I can improveView attachment 3855384
yeah I’ve started oiling my hair and drinking 3L of water a day do you think that’ll help ? Also would what would u rate me ?Get longer dreads to help conceal the narrowness of your face
I’ve been trying to focus on atleast 8h of sleep now, do u think I should start bonesmashing too ? Nd thank u for the compliment broif you think you started puberty last year that's a good sign but facial hair isn't exactly the best determiner for puberty, try to consider other things like a sudden growth spurt at tanner stage 2-3, onset of pubic hair, voice changes, etc
debloating won't make your face narrower cus usually what makes your face "wide" is maxilla development, bizygo width and bigonial width + how wide your chin is. Your chin looks ok but your gonions are probably inward which causes face to look a little "narrower"
Also you look good man, don't doubt yourself and be confident
If you're 16 your facial fat will still be redistributing til 25 so don't be too caught up just eat good sleep well and follow good habits
Yeah that'll help. High fat high protein diet too. I'd say you're mtn, 5/5, certainly not uglyyeah I’ve started oiling my hair and drinking 3L of water a day do you think that’ll help ? Also would what would u rate me ?
Ye try to get 9-10 if you're 16 cus u prolly in ur last chance to get more height and hgh is secreted the most when u sleep so it's ok to shoot for more. bonesmashing is cope it inflames ur face which gives the illusion of thicker bones and can lead to asymmetry if done incorrectly. just wait til your face is finished and if you're still unhappy with yourself then you can look for hardmaxx but you are attractive!I’ve been trying to focus on atleast 8h of sleep now, do u think I should start bonesmashing too ? Nd thank u for the compliment bro
I’m already 6’1 right now but genuinely no attractive girls go after me so I really think I need to train my maxilla, zygos, better my eye area, and train my neck. I think I after that I can maybe become hhtn or if I get really lucky cl. Do u agree ?Ye try to get 9-10 if you're 16 cus u prolly in ur last chance to get more height and hgh is secreted the most when u sleep so it's ok to shoot for more. bonesmashing is cope it inflames ur face which gives the illusion of thicker bones and can lead to asymmetry if done incorrectly. just wait til your face is finished and if you're still unhappy with yourself then you can look for hardmaxx but you are attractive!
Okay fs will do that. You think my potential is htn or maybe cl if I get lucky?Yeah that'll help. High fat high protein diet too. I'd say you're mtn, 5/5, certainly not ugly
CL is most likely unattainable. If your bone structure improves with age (or if you get implants/fillers), I'd say you could achieve hmtn, possibly htn, but probably just hmtn.Okay fs will do that. You think my potential is htn or maybe cl if I get lucky
you think there’s any way for me to improve ? and what would u rate me ?absolutely atrocious harmony
I’m 16 so i hope that it’ll get better but do u think I should start bonesmashing my zygos and chewing mastic for my masseter ?CL is most likely unattainable. If your bone structure improves with age (or if you get implants/fillers), I'd say you could achieve hmtn, possibly htn, but probably just hmtn
No. Bonesmashing is dumb, and enlarging your masseters will make your jaw disproportionate to the rest of your face. For a face shape like yours, the best realistic option to quickly improve is to figure out the right haircut.I’m 16 so i hope that it’ll get better but do u think I should start bonesmashing my zygos and chewing mastic for my masseter ?
So do you think that I’m basically almost at my peak and it’s over unless I hardmax ?No. Bonesmashing is dumb, and enlarging your masseters will make your jaw disproportionate to the rest of your face. For a face shape like yours, the best realistic option to quickly improve is to figure out the right haircut.
what would you say I should do to improve ?ltn but ur not hideous you just have a thin skull and wide eyes
honestly just wait til you get to college and start talking to girls more for the girls aspect, idk about your maxilla since no side profile but it could use some improvement because of short lower third and long midface.however you probably won't see too much difference as the sutures are pretty much almost closed. Your zygos look pretty good and you're in puberty so most likely bloated too it's good you can see decent width probably don't need to do anything as the narrowness is from a less than ideal maxilla width. Try not to train neck too much because it will make your face appear even smaller. Htn is on the table if you really lock in but cl is probably unattainable without hardmaxxing. Gl!I’m already 6’1 right now but genuinely no attractive girls go after me so I really think I need to train my maxilla, zygos, better my eye area, and train my neck. I think I after that I can maybe become hhtn or if I get really lucky cl. Do u agree ?
around the mid ltn area, grow out your hair and your gonna be mtnRn I think I’m a 4 or 4.5 but lmk what I can improveView attachment 3855384
Do you think if I start training my masseter that could compensate for my maxilla width?and then debloat ofc will start working on that now but will def look into hardmaxxing in the future when I become more involved in the communityhonestly just wait til you get to college and start talking to girls more for the girls aspect, idk about your maxilla since no side profile but it could use some improvement because of short lower third and long midface.however you probably won't see too much difference as the sutures are pretty much almost closed. Your zygos look pretty good and you're in puberty so most likely bloated too it's good you can see decent width probably don't need to do anything as the narrowness is from a less than ideal maxilla width. Try not to train neck too much because it will make your face appear even smaller. Htn is on the table if you really lock in but cl is probably unattainable without hardmaxxing. Gl!
You think my potential is capped at mtn?around the mid ltn area, grow out your hair and your gonna be mtn
without surgery, yes if im brutully honest. with surgery you could be htn-chadliteYou think my potential is capped at mtn?
it will help your lower third but wont be the end all be all however definitely try to do that. don't do it too much cus then ur gonna look like an ogre, and don't hardmaxx til ur like 19-20 at the earliestDo you think if I start training my masseter that could compensate for my maxilla width?and then debloat ofc will start working on that now but will def look into hardmaxxing in the future when I become more involved in the community