Rate Medieval Turkic

[StuntmanMike]

 

[Richard Spencer]

ethnic bvll

 

[Return to Nature 🌲]

badass/10

 

[themaynrman]

These people were half Iranic in origins so only 50% turkic

 

[themaynrman]

Real turks just look chinese or siberian gook ling ling ching ching fucky fucky sucky sucky long time

 

[JeanneDArcAlter]

Me btw

 

[JeanneDArcAlter]

My granduncle looks like this

 

[themaynrman]

The medieval Oghuz Turkic speakers (you wrote “pghuz” — assuming that was a typo) were likely only partially “Turkic” on a genetic level by the time they migrated west toward Iran, Anatolia, and the Caucasus. Let me break it down:





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1. Origins: East Asian + Siberian Core





The early Turkic peoples (around the 6th–8th century) like the Göktürks, who are ancestral to the Oghuz, originated in eastern Central Asia — what is now Mongolia and parts of northern China.


• Their genetic makeup was mostly East Asian and Siberian, with haplogroups like C2, Q, and O dominating.





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2. Migration & Admixture





As the Oghuz Turks migrated westward, especially from the 8th–11th centuries, they:


• Mixed heavily with Iranic, Tocharian, and Indo-European-related peoples in Central Asia (Transoxiana, Khwarezm, etc.)


• Picked up West Eurasian (Caucasoid) genes from Persians, Sogdians, Scythians, Bactrians, and even South Asian populations





This caused a genetic dilution of their original East Asian/Siberian Turkic ancestry.





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3. Arrival in Iran and Anatolia





By the time they reached Persia and Anatolia (11th century onward), the Oghuz were:


• Culturally Turkic (language, identity, tribal system)


• But genetically highly admixed, with likely only 25% or less of their ancestry tracing back to original East Asian Turkic stock


• Especially true for leaders like the Seljuks, who quickly Persianized





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4. Modern Evidence





Genetic studies of modern Oghuz-descended populations (like Turkmens, Azeris, and Turks) show:


• Only 5–15% East Asian/Siberian DNA on average


• The rest is West Eurasian (Caucasus, Iranic, Anatolian, etc.)


• Y-DNA in modern Turks: mostly J2, G2a, R1b, R1a, and E, with a minority of Turkic markers like C2 or Q





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Conclusion:





The medieval Oghuz Turks were not fully “genetically Turkic” in the East Asian sense by the time they entered the Middle East. They were a mixed steppe population, linguistically Turkified, and carried a lot of Iranic and Caucasoid DNA.





So, yeah—they were half Turkic at best on a biological level, but 100% Turkic culturally and linguistically.

 

[StuntmanMike]

The medieval Oghuz Turkic speakers (you wrote “pghuz” — assuming that was a typo) were likely only partially “Turkic” on a genetic level by the time they migrated west toward Iran, Anatolia, and the Caucasus. Let me break it down:





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1. Origins: East Asian + Siberian Core





The early Turkic peoples (around the 6th–8th century) like the Göktürks, who are ancestral to the Oghuz, originated in eastern Central Asia — what is now Mongolia and parts of northern China.


• Their genetic makeup was mostly East Asian and Siberian, with haplogroups like C2, Q, and O dominating.





⸻





2. Migration & Admixture





As the Oghuz Turks migrated westward, especially from the 8th–11th centuries, they:


• Mixed heavily with Iranic, Tocharian, and Indo-European-related peoples in Central Asia (Transoxiana, Khwarezm, etc.)


• Picked up West Eurasian (Caucasoid) genes from Persians, Sogdians, Scythians, Bactrians, and even South Asian populations





This caused a genetic dilution of their original East Asian/Siberian Turkic ancestry.





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3. Arrival in Iran and Anatolia





By the time they reached Persia and Anatolia (11th century onward), the Oghuz were:


• Culturally Turkic (language, identity, tribal system)


• But genetically highly admixed, with likely only 25% or less of their ancestry tracing back to original East Asian Turkic stock


• Especially true for leaders like the Seljuks, who quickly Persianized





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4. Modern Evidence





Genetic studies of modern Oghuz-descended populations (like Turkmens, Azeris, and Turks) show:


• Only 5–15% East Asian/Siberian DNA on average


• The rest is West Eurasian (Caucasus, Iranic, Anatolian, etc.)


• Y-DNA in modern Turks: mostly J2, G2a, R1b, R1a, and E, with a minority of Turkic markers like C2 or Q





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Conclusion:





The medieval Oghuz Turks were not fully “genetically Turkic” in the East Asian sense by the time they entered the Middle East. They were a mixed steppe population, linguistically Turkified, and carried a lot of Iranic and Caucasoid DNA.





So, yeah—they were half Turkic at best on a biological level, but 100% Turkic culturally and linguistically.

What is this shit pajeet ?
Proto Turks were from Bulan Koba .
They had both Sintashta and Khövsgöl DNA
Slab grave is confirmed Mongol Chinese hybrid .

 

[themaynrman]

Mogged by scythian prettyboy
View attachment 3644737

Scythians are the main reason oghuz cucks had caucasoid genes. They would fuck and kidnap turkic woman for thousands of years and ruled over these siberian gooks.

 

[themaynrman]

What is this shit pajeet ?
Proto Turks were from Bulan Koba .
They had both Sintashta and Khövsgöl DNA
Slab grave is confirmed Mongol Chinese hybrid .

Then why do they speak a altaic gook language?

 

[StuntmanMike]

Then why do they speak a altaic gook language?

Turkic is very different than mongolic.
Is it ANA language ?
Most likely yes or maybe ANE related no one knows.
All we know Proto Turkics aka Early Xiongnus had 50% Sintashta and Khovsgol plus BMAC DNA.

 

[themaynrman]

Turkic is very different than mongolic.
Is it ANA language ?
Most likely yes or maybe ANE related no one knows.
All we know Proto Turkics aka Early Xiongnus had 50% Sintashta and Khovsgol plus BMAC DNA.

They still speak an asiatic gook language related to mongolian, korean, manchu and others. This means the original turks were gooks, . Turk dna = gook dna anything else is not turkic dna

 

[StuntmanMike]

Scythians are the main reason oghuz cucks had caucasoid genes. They would fuck and kidnap turkic woman for thousands of years and ruled over these siberian gooks.

That doesn't make sense
If it was true then Turkics would have spoken Iranic Language .
Females can't assimilate their boys for fuck sake It was the old world .
Only males could do that
Especially we are talking about iranics

 

[themaynrman]

That doesn't make sense
If it was true then Turkics would have spoken Iranic Language .
Females can't assimilate their boys for fuck sake It was the old world .
Only males could do that
Especially we are talking about iranics

Usually no, but in some instances like Cannites who were invaders got assimilated by native levantines as they would bang the woman and leave them for years with the kids as they went to war. Same with scythian men, bang Turkic woman and leave them for long time if not forever. Dna tests also show that oghuz had paternal Iranic dna.

 

[StuntmanMike]

Usually no, but in some instances like Cannites who were invaders got assimilated by native levantines as they would bang the woman and leave them for years with the kids as they went to war. Same with scythian men, bang Turkic woman and leave them for long time if not forever. Dna tests also show that oghuz had paternal Iranic dna.

U don't understand Turkics had always West Eurasian paternal lineage.
Even Khovsgol samples from 3k years ago score R1a-Z93.
Proto Turkics had Q-L330 and R1a-Z93
Later they mixed with BMACs and Tarim related groups
got R1b and J from them
Later they moved to East and raped Slab Grave women

This one uyuk

That one Slab Grave

Turkics carry high SG DNA but no paternal lineage.

Slab Grave haplogroup is Chinese btw

 

[themaynrman]

U don't understand Turkics had always West Eurasian paternal lineage.
Even Khovsgol samples from 3k years ago score R1a-Z93.
Proto Turkics had Q-L330 and R1a-Z93
Later they mixed with BMACs and Tarim related groups
got R1b and J from them
Later they moved to East and raped Slab Grave women

This one uyuk

That one Slab Grave

Turkics carry high SG DNA but no paternal lineage.

Slab Grave haplogroup is Chinese btw

No nigga turkics were gooks and spoke a gook language originally. Invading scythinas fucked them over and put Iranic Indoeuro genes into them:
“Was the Iranic DNA mostly from men or women?





In most cases, it was from Iranic men, especially in the earlier periods.





Here’s why:





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1. Steppe Tribal Structure Was Male-Dominated


• Turkic tribes like the Oghuz often absorbed defeated or allied clans into their structure.


• These absorbed clans could include Iranic-speaking warrior groups or tribal units, who brought in male bloodlines.


• Those men would be integrated, and over time their children would be culturally Turkified, but genetically Iranic on the paternal side.





So Iranic Y-DNA (like R1a, J2, G2a) became more common inside the tribe itself.”

Mongloid woman have always preferred caucasoid men

 

[Bars]

Real turks just look chinese or siberian gook ling ling ching ching fucky fucky sucky sucky long time

Who are you nigga?

 

[StuntmanMike]

No nigga turkics were gooks and spoke a gook language originally. Invading scythinas fucked them over and put Iranic Indoeuro genes into them:
“Was the Iranic DNA mostly from men or women?





In most cases, it was from Iranic men, especially in the earlier periods.





Here’s why:





⸻





1. Steppe Tribal Structure Was Male-Dominated


• Turkic tribes like the Oghuz often absorbed defeated or allied clans into their structure.


• These absorbed clans could include Iranic-speaking warrior groups or tribal units, who brought in male bloodlines.


• Those men would be integrated, and over time their children would be culturally Turkified, but genetically Iranic on the paternal side.





So Iranic Y-DNA (like R1a, J2, G2a) became more common inside the tribe itself.”

Mongloid woman have always preferred caucasoid men

I am referring the DNA results for fuk sake.
Iranics had only one Y-DNA and it was R1a-Z93
Turkics mixed with Iranics and Uyuk is the perfect example for that
Later they mixed with Tarim related groups
Got R1b from them
and finally they fucked Proto Tungustic people.

Deer Stone

Uyuk

 

[Deleted member 72469]

Real turks just look chinese or siberian gook ling ling ching ching fucky fucky sucky sucky long time

I too love spreading misinformation

 

[StuntmanMike]

No nigga turkics were gooks and spoke a gook language originally. Invading scythinas fucked them over and put Iranic Indoeuro genes into them:
“Was the Iranic DNA mostly from men or women?





In most cases, it was from Iranic men, especially in the earlier periods.





Here’s why:





⸻





1. Steppe Tribal Structure Was Male-Dominated


• Turkic tribes like the Oghuz often absorbed defeated or allied clans into their structure.


• These absorbed clans could include Iranic-speaking warrior groups or tribal units, who brought in male bloodlines.


• Those men would be integrated, and over time their children would be culturally Turkified, but genetically Iranic on the paternal side.





So Iranic Y-DNA (like R1a, J2, G2a) became more common inside the tribe itself.”

Mongloid woman have always preferred caucasoid men

Plus Haplogroup R is Tianyuan Related
In this Case
Mongoloid Thai looking men
fucked West Eurasian Dzudzuana women
What is ur opinion about that ?

 

[themaynrman]

Plus Haplogroup R is Tianyuan Related
In this Case
Mongoloid Thai looking men
fucked West Eurasian Dzudzuana women
What is ur opinion about that ?

Just stop coping. No historian agrees with your delusions

 

[themaynrman]

I too love spreading misinformation

Then why do they speak gook altaic?

 

[Deleted member 72469]

Then why do they speak gook altaic?

Turkish is 89% Turkic

It's actually highly mutually intelligible with other Turkic languages

 

[StuntmanMike]

Just stop coping. No historian agrees with your delusions

Are u fucking idiot ?
Haplogroup R and Q both are descended from Tianyuan Male

Yes All Iranics had Yellow race paternal lineage

 

[themaynrman]

Turkish is 89% Turkic


View attachment 3644826
It's actually highly mutually intelligible with other Turkic languages

No its not first of all. Turkic languages are not mutually intelligible, and my point was that turkics were gook altaics. They were asian not caucasoid.

 

[Deleted member 72469]

No its not first of all. Turkic languages are not mutually intelligible, and my point was that turkics were gook altaics. They were asian not caucasoid.

why do u keep saying gook when that refers to jungle asians like u?

Also modern turkish people do have north east asian DNA

But obviously they mixed while going west, a Turkic person doesn't need to be a pureblood Yakut or Tuvan. For us Turkic people as long as your paternal ancestors eere Turkic, you become one of us.

 

[themaynrman]

why do u keep saying gook when that refers to jungle asians like u?

Also modern turkish people do have north east asian DNA

View attachment 3644868

But obviously they mixed while going west, a Turkic person doesn't need to be a pureblood Yakut or Tuvan. For us Turkic people as long as your paternal ancestors eere Turkic, you become one of us.

Yea except most turks and azeris are paternally j2 and other non-turkic haplos. Try again

The most common paternal haplogroup (Y-DNA) among modern Turks (from Turkey) is:





J2


• This haplogroup is associated with Neolithic farmers from the Fertile Crescent (including parts of ancient Iran and Mesopotamia).


• It’s common across the eastern Mediterranean, the Caucasus, and Iran.





Other common haplogroups in Turkey include:





R1b


• Common in Europe and Anatolia, especially in the western parts of Turkey.





E1b1b


• North African and Mediterranean origin, also found in southern Europe and the Balkans.





G2a


• Associated with early Neolithic farmers, especially from Anatolia and the Caucasus.





R1a


• Found in central and eastern Anatolia, possibly linked to Indo-European movements.





J1


• More southern Arabian and Levantine, but present in lower frequencies.





C, Q, O (Central Asian/Turkic origin)


• These are true East and Central Asian haplogroups, and they only appear in about 8-15% of Turkish males total.


• Q and C are the ones most commonly associated with ancient Turkic-Mongolic steppe populations.


• O is more East Asian, very rare.

 

[themaynrman]

why do u keep saying gook when that refers to jungle asians like u?

Also modern turkish people do have north east asian DNA

View attachment 3644868

But obviously they mixed while going west, a Turkic person doesn't need to be a pureblood Yakut or Tuvan. For us Turkic people as long as your paternal ancestors eere Turkic, you become one of us.

Turks are suberian gooks. Koreans and japanese speak altaic languages too along with manchus and mongols

 

[themaynrman]

why do u keep saying gook when that refers to jungle asians like u?

Also modern turkish people do have north east asian DNA

View attachment 3644868

But obviously they mixed while going west, a Turkic person doesn't need to be a pureblood Yakut or Tuvan. For us Turkic people as long as your paternal ancestors eere Turkic, you become one of us.

Saars i am 90% Greek or Persian saaars but i am phalll sappooort turkic

 

[StuntmanMike]

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Ur an idiot.
R1a,Q,N and some subclades of J came with Turkics.
In fact Turkish people have more Turkic paternal than turkic maternal

 

[Deleted member 72469]

Turks are suberian gooks. Koreans and japanese speak altaic languages too along with manchus and mongols

Altaic is only Mongolic,Turkic and Tungus.
Koreans and japs have nothing to do with altaic

These are true East and Central Asian haplogroups, and they only appear in about 8-15% of Turkish males total.

I have paternal East Asian DNA i don't care if the other mutts don't have it

 

[Deleted member 72469]

Ur an idiot.
R1a,Q,N and some subclades of J came with Turkics.
In fact Turkish people have more Turkic paternal than turkic maternal

R1 and J didn't come from Turkics dont spread lies

R1 is yamnya and J is from Georgia

 

[themaynrman]

Are u fucking idiot ?
Haplogroup R and Q both are descended from Tianyuan Male

Yes All Iranics had Yellow race paternal lineage

Stop your retard cope faggot. You know what i did the day i learned there was an earthquakler in turkiye? I went to the bathroom and masturbated furiously to turks wailing and crying. It was the best nut i had in a while.

 

[themaynrman]

Altaic is only Mongolic,Turkic and Tungus.
Koreans and japs have nothing to do with altaic




I have paternal East Asian DNA i don't care if the other mutts don't have it

What is your genetic composition?

 

[Deleted member 72469]

What is your genetic composition?

It would deserve it's own thread tbh

 

[StuntmanMike]

R1 and J didn't come from Turkics dont spread lies

R1 is yamnya and J is from Georgia

Basal J is CHG related
R is from Tianyuan but R1a-Z93 is from Sintashta
Some Js are native to Caucasia and Anatolia
But some subclades of J came with Medieval Turkics
U niggas don't know anything about haplogroups af.

 

[StuntmanMike]

Stop your retard cope faggot. You know what i did the day i learned there was an earthquakler in turkiye? I went to the bathroom and masturbated furiously to turks wailing and crying. It was the best nut i had in a while.

It affected most of kurds and arabs btw

 

[TsarTsar444]

They still speak an asiatic gook language related to mongolian, korean, manchu and others. This means the original turks were gooks, . Turk dna = gook dna anything else is not turkic dna

No because most prominant paternal lineages are ANE. It seems like the language was adopted by being raised by their chink mothers while their fathers were off on their nomadic shenannigans

 

[themaynrman]

Altaic is only Mongolic,Turkic and Tungus.
Koreans and japs have nothing to do with altaic




I have paternal East Asian DNA i don't care if the other mutts don't have it

There was a theory called the “Altaic hypothesis”, which proposed that Turkic, Mongolic, Tungusic, Korean, and Japanese all came from a common proto-language — a so-called Altaic language family.

 

[themaynrman]

It affected most of kurds and arabs btw

No it effected a turkish nationalist city. Most people there are ethnic “”turks””

 

[themaynrman]

No because most prominant paternal lineages are ANE. It seems like the language was adopted by being raised by their chink mothers while their fathers were off on their nomadic shenannigans

Thats what i said. Turks are essentially only turks cause of their gook language. Thats what makes them turkic

 

[themaynrman]

It would deserve it's own thread tbh

Aka im 1% turkic. Im paternally r-z173827 or whatever is called but you dont see me larping as a yamnya