Rate my cycle

[dmark8]

Been on 4-6iu HGH daily taken fasted at morning, and 350mg test c weekly pinned EOD for about 2 months now. Total test is over 1500, free test at 50, e2 at 54, SHBG at 17, and prolactin at 16.

I haven’t been feeling the best on this cycle mentally, (no motivation, focus, drive , etc) which is part of the reason I got on. Also wanted to spice things up in my cycle.

Thoughts on adding 20mg anavar and 25mg proviron daily? (Keep in mind on 40mg accutane daily and a bunch of peptides/supps)

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

adding 20mg anavar

Its fine, do it if youd like

and 25mg proviron

No

4-6iu

Up it a bit imo

350mg test c

Up it a bit

e2 at 54,

Take a little bit of aromasin

 

[dmark8]

Its fine, do it if youd like

No

Up it a bit imo


Up it a bit

Take a little bit of aromasin

Ty for response

Why up the test ? To what dose ?
Why no proviron?
Why up the GH? To what dose and when is best time to pin?
What dose aromasin?

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

Ty for response

Why up the test ? To what dose ?
Why no proviron?
Why up the GH? To what dose and when is best time to pin?
What dose aromasin?

500-600
No benefit and rapes skin and hair
8iu,night
TRy 6,5mg eod

 

[dmark8]

500-600
No benefit and rapes skin and hair
8iu,night
TRy 6,5mg eod

Why all GH at night? Wouldn’t you want some gh in morning before fasted Cardio?

Also btw I’m on 40mg Accutane daily

 

[AtrophicPyra]

500-600
No benefit and rapes skin and hair
8iu,night
TRy 6,5mg eod

stop spreading misinformation abt proviron u rat. its one of the most androgenic compounds that has the least detrimental affects on ghrh pathways, it may not be as anabolic as test but it is def better to take whilst in puberty. i recommend 50-75mg dose for a month and a half or 2 months. no need for pct nor hcg or hmg during or after cycle, everything goes back to normal a couples weeks to a month or 2

not to mention its also oral so easier to hide

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

its one of the most androgenic compounds that has the least detrimental affects on ghrh pathways,

Just untrue, its 1methylation does not at all nor should make it more selective and it still like its derivatives and sister compounds crosses the bbb with ease and not the opposite selectivity which would be needed for this statement to be true, you clearly have no idea what youre talking about

Its just a weak steroid, you just get the most noticable signs of androgenocity since its very active in expression of genes tied to collagen loss, dryness and hairloss. While it does this its not very strong at much else

Even if this was true it wouldnt be an issue as recovery is super easy

And if you are trynna dickmax yiu should be using tren, not proviron

it may not be as anabolic as test but it is def better to take whilst in puberty. i recommend 50-75mg dose for a month and a half or 2 months. no need for pct nor hcg or hmg during or after cycle, everything goes back to normal a couples weeks to a month or 2

Yeah youre just a fucking retard, this way hes gonna be hypogonadal for months and wait a long time unecessarily for his balls to recover naturally and have 0 e2 while on cycle, just no benefit to this over just running test hcg towards the wnd and low dosd tren if you wanna grow your dick, youre gonna feel better, never crash be healthier even, e2 is fucking important

not to mention its also oral so easier to hide

If you run a cycld like a retard, test is called the base of all cycles for a reason

 

[AtrophicPyra]

Just untrue, its 1methylation does not at all nor should make it more selective and it still like its derivatives and sister compounds crosses the bbb with ease and not the opposite selectivity which would be needed for this statement to be true, you clearly have no idea what youre talking about

Its just a weak steroid, you just get the most noticable signs of androgenocity since its very active in expression of genes tied to collagen loss, dryness and hairloss. While it does this its not very strong at much else

Even if this was true it wouldnt be an issue as recovery is super easy

And if you are trynna dickmax yiu should be using tren, not proviron

Yeah youre just a fucking retard, this way hes gonna be hypogonadal for months and wait a long time unecessarily for his balls to recover naturally and have 0 e2 while on cycle, just no benefit to this over just running test hcg towards the wnd and low dosd tren if you wanna grow your dick, youre gonna feel better, never crash be healthier even, e2 is fucking important

If you run a cycld like a retard, test is called the base of all cycles for a reason

proviron 50-75mg, 0.25 or 0.5mg tamoxifen, 0.5mg of arimidex when symptoms of high estrogen arise there i fixed it, taking tren whilst during puberty is so retarded, trust me you will see noticable affects of male dimorphism if u just run the cycle i mentioned.

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

proviron 50-75mg, 0.25 or 0.5mg tamoxifen, 0.5mg of arimidex when symptoms of high estrogen arise there i fixed it, taking tren whilst during puberty is so retarded, trust me you will see noticable affects of male dimorphism if u just run the cycle i mentioned.

An ai???? Yeah youre just terra fucking retarded an ai when the problem is raped e2, sounds smart, and also really smart and usefull to use a serm while you already have exogenous androgens

Tell me then smartiepants, why is taking tren do retarded but proviron only isnt?

 

[AtrophicPyra]

An ai???? Yeah youre just terra fucking retarded an ai when the problem is raped e2, sounds smart, and also really smart and usefull to use a serm while you already have exogenous androgens

Tell me then smartiepants, why is taking tren do retarded but proviron only isnt?

proviron does not aromatize into estrogen however if u stimulate the ghrh pathways from tamoxifine to produce more test ur body will also make more estrogen, if u take the arimidex whilst doing this, you will be left with high androgens, high testosterone, nerfed estrogen(start with 0.25mg to not nuke estradiol and keep it above 10ml)

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

proviron does not aromatize into estrogen however if u stimulate the ghrh pathways from tamoxifine to produce more test ur body will also make more estrogen, if u take the arimidex whilst doing this, you will be left with high androgens, high testosterone, nerfed estrogen(start with 0.25mg to not nuke estradiol and keep it above 10ml)

Nigger if youre not supressed the increase in test from nolva is small, 100-300ng/dl ish, this is still considered hypogonsdsl if youre not producing test, nolva also wont as the proviron is sending more negative feedbsck than nolva is causing, for nolva to work your brain has to think youre deficient in hormones which definitly wont happen when you feed it steroids

 

[AtrophicPyra]

Nigger if youre not supressed the increase in test from nolva is small, 100-300ng/dl ish, this is still considered hypogonsdsl if youre not producing test, nolva also wont as the proviron is sending more negative feedbsck than nolva is causing, for nolva to work your brain has to think youre deficient in hormones which definitly wont happen when you feed it steroids

it all matters abt the dose, if u take high dose tamoxifen, it may not stimulate ghrh pathways as much but def help with the mild ghrh suppression from the proviron, besides you don't lose anything you only take arimidex if you start seeing estrogenic symptoms

also this is all theoretical, who knows maybe the tamoxifen at 0.75mg will make ur ghrh pathways respond to producing more test and not just help with ghrh suppression

 

[Newday*V3]

This is a cruise not a cycle

Take GH at night before bed always

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

it all matters abt the dose, if u take high dose tamoxifen, it may not stimulate ghrh pathways as much but def help with the mild ghrh suppression from the proviron, besides you don't lose anything you only take arimidex if you start seeing estrogenic symptoms

also this is all theoretical, who knows maybe the tamoxifen at 0.75mg will make ur ghrh pathways respond to producing more test and not just help with ghrh suppression

Pretty much any dose will shut you down <50ng/dl, the only way it wouldnt would be if the dose was so small that the proviron dose is equivalent to an amoumt of test you can afford to lose, this is not true for 50mg, but if you wanna exerience 0 e2 and rape your brain even more than its alreafy been raped than be my guest

I know, because thw theory in this is very well known and very simple, 50-75mg is still more androgenocity than you get from natural test, youre then gonna end up eith less than 50 so youre now fucked as the 2 most important hormones, test & e2are none, serms are pretty simple, they block some e receptors to send a little bit of feedback, their mechanism is confined to your natural build, steroids however are completely different as theyre free to stimulate an ar however much they like, which is the only reason to use them but this applies to all steroids. Youre not gonns see estrogenic symptoms youre gonna see hypogonadal symptoms and symptoms of lack of e2, the most important hormone btw

 

[AtrophicPyra]

Pretty much any dose will shut you down <50ng/dl, the only way it wouldnt would be if the dose was so small that the proviron dose is equivalent to an amoumt of test you can afford to lose, this is not true for 50mg, but if you wanna exerience 0 e2 and rape your brain even more than its alreafy been raped than be my guest

I know, because thw theory in this is very well known and very simple, 50-75mg is still more androgenocity than you get from natural test, youre then gonna end up eith less than 50 so youre now fucked as the 2 most important hormones, test & e2are none, serms are pretty simple, they block some e receptors to send a little bit of feedback, their mechanism is confined to your natural build, steroids however are completely different as theyre free to stimulate an ar however much they like, which is the only reason to use them but this applies to all steroids. Youre not gonns see estrogenic symptoms youre gonna see hypogonadal symptoms and symptoms of lack of e2, the most important hormone btw

i meant the dose of tamoxifine not the dose of proviron. proviron doesnt even supress ghrh pathways that much fym ur nuking test and e2??? you literally lose NOTHING from taking 0.75mg tamoxifine with 0.75mg of proviron, you dont even need tamoxifine anyway if ur only running 0.75mg proviron for 2 months, shit will go back to normal in weeks either way, esp with tamoxifine post cycle.

 

[AtrophicPyra]

Pretty much any dose will shut you down <50ng/dl, the only way it wouldnt would be if the dose was so small that the proviron dose is equivalent to an amoumt of test you can afford to lose, this is not true for 50mg, but if you wanna exerience 0 e2 and rape your brain even more than its alreafy been raped than be my guest

I know, because thw theory in this is very well known and very simple, 50-75mg is still more androgenocity than you get from natural test, youre then gonna end up eith less than 50 so youre now fucked as the 2 most important hormones, test & e2are none, serms are pretty simple, they block some e receptors to send a little bit of feedback, their mechanism is confined to your natural build, steroids however are completely different as theyre free to stimulate an ar however much they like, which is the only reason to use them but this applies to all steroids. Youre not gonns see estrogenic symptoms youre gonna see hypogonadal symptoms and symptoms of lack of e2, the most important hormone btw

also forgot to say ur taking arimidex INCASE of the tamoxifen bringing ur e2 higher or if ur e2 was already high and gets worse from the worsening ratio of testosterone and estrogen from the proviron

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

i meant the dose of tamoxifine not the dose of proviron. proviron doesnt even supress ghrh pathways that much fym ur nuking test and e2??? you literally lose NOTHING from taking 0.75mg tamoxifine with 0.75mg of proviron, you dont even need tamoxifine anyway if ur only running 0.75mg proviron for 2 months, shit will go back to normal in weeks either way, esp with tamoxifine post cycle.

It doesnt matter if the proviron dose is relatively small its larger as an equivalent thsn your natural testosterone whivh is all that matters, you hypothalamus doesnt give a shit if its less than what people online take or if its weaker thsn other steroids it just knows that suddently it has more hormones than normal so it stops production, youre a fucking spastic retard

 

[AtrophicPyra]

It doesnt matter if the proviron dose is relatively small its larger as an equivalent thsn your natural testosterone whivh is all that matters, you hypothalamus doesnt give a shit if its less than what people online take or if its weaker thsn other steroids it just knows that suddently it has more hormones than normal so it stops production, youre a fucking spastic retard

do you have fucking dyslexia my nigga. i said you take tamoxifine 0.75mg or HIGHER dose depending on how much it helps with the already minimal ghrh pathway supression from proviron. you could taking fucking 300 grams of proviron for all i care as long as u use tamoxifine to signal and stimulate ur ghrh pathways.

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

do you have fucking dyslexia my nigga. i said you take tamoxifine 0.75mg or HIGHER dose depending on how much it helps with the already minimal ghrh pathway supression from proviron. you could taking fucking 300 grams of proviron for all i care as long as u use tamoxifine to signal and stimulate ur ghrh pathways.

Nigger it doednt matter if every single estrigen receptor was blocked the proviron wpuld still equal a lot more ar activation thsn your natural test casuing supression, you clesrly just think nolva just magicslly spawns test in your body but it doesnt, you have net negative feedback youre gonns produce less hormones, learn the mechanisms of thw drugs you push yiu drooling retard

 

[AtrophicPyra]

Nigger it doednt matter if every single estrigen receptor was blocked the proviron wpuld still equal a lot more ar activation thsn your natural test casuing supression, you clesrly just think nolva just magicslly spawns test in your body but it doesnt, you have net negative feedback youre gonns produce less hormones, learn the mechanisms of thw drugs you push yiu drooling retard

the tamoxifin blocks estrogen making ur body produce more lh and fsh meaning more testosterone AND because of proviron, more androgens COULD happen at the same time, if the tamoxifine dose is high/sufficient and doesnt fuck up e2 whilst also stimulating ur gnrh pathways from the already minimal suppression happening, if ur that fucking worried ur e2 levels will drop start low and build up if u start feeling weird ass symptoms drop the dose of tamoxifin.

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

the tamoxifin blocks estrogen making ur body produce more lh and fsh meaning more testosterone AND because of proviron, more androgens COULD happen at the same time, if the tamoxifine dose is high/sufficient and doesnt fuck up e2 whilst also stimulating ur gnrh pathways from the already minimal suppression happening, if ur that fucking worried ur e2 levels will drop start low and build up if u start feeling weird ass symptoms drop the dose of tamoxifin.

Nigger it couldnt happen if the proviron sends more negative feedback than the nolva does, whoch it does without a doubt

 

[AtrophicPyra]

Nigger it couldnt happen if the proviron sends more negative feedback than the nolva does, whoch it does without a doubt

how tf do you know did u run a study on it?

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

how tf do you know did u run a study on it?

Because its very simple biolohy, the efficacy, affinity all of it is not close between the drugs. Since you clearly have 0 idea as you imply you shpuldnt be giving amyone advise, its on false premises and even if it wasnt would be useless, its very easy to conclude you cant run a cycle like this and even if you could the proviron would be useless and obsolete in 2026

 

[AtrophicPyra]

Because its very simple biolohy, the efficacy, affinity all of it is not close between the drugs. Since you clearly have 0 idea as you imply you shpuldnt be giving amyone advise, its on false premises and even if it wasnt would be useless, its very easy to conclude you cant run a cycle like this and even if you could the proviron would be useless and obsolete in 2026

my nigga you just created a fantasy where proviron overpowers tamoxifin zero evidence

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

my nigga you just created a fantasy where proviron overpowers tamoxifin zero evidence

My nigga we can easily know ir by comparinf potency, and its not close take a look at vitro studies and statistics, you hsvent even created a fabtasy because you have no idea what youre talking about, niggas just talking just to talk

 

[dmark8]

Jesus bro I just needed some help

 

[trueRetard]

Ty for response

Why up the test ? To what dose ?
Why no proviron?
Why up the GH? To what dose and when is best time to pin?
What dose aromasin?

pin hgh 8iu to 10iu rigth before going to bed

 

[trueRetard]

Ty for response

Why up the test ? To what dose ?
Why no proviron?
Why up the GH? To what dose and when is best time to pin?
What dose aromasin?

aromasin ihibits aromastion so no test converts ito estogen why are you taking test and not know about AI

 

[exyonf]

Been on 4-6iu HGH daily taken fasted at morning, and 350mg test c weekly pinned EOD for about 2 months now. Total test is over 1500, free test at 50, e2 at 54, SHBG at 17, and prolactin at 16.

I haven’t been feeling the best on this cycle mentally, (no motivation, focus, drive , etc) which is part of the reason I got on. Also wanted to spice things up in my cycle.

Thoughts on adding 20mg anavar and 25mg proviron daily? (Keep in mind on 40mg accutane daily and a bunch of peptides/supps)

up test up hgh add an AI to keep e2 lower. Also add a nootropic

 

[dmark8]

aromasin ihibits aromastion so no test converts ito estogen why are you taking test and not know about AI

I never asked what’s ai lol I asked what dose

 

[dmark8]

up test up hgh add an AI to keep e2 lower. Also add a nootropic

Can u gimme numbers , and how long to run for

 

[exyonf]

Can u gimme numbers , and how long to run for

500mg, 10-12IU hgh, 12,5mg aromasin/2,5mg letrozole adjust by serum e2 levels

 

[dmark8]

500mg, 10-12IU hgh, 12,5mg aromasin/2,5mg letrozole adjust by serum e2 levels

Why 10-12 iu wtf

My igf on 8iu a day was 706, and on 4 iu a day was 702. So I’m pretty much maxxed out

Are there other benefits from raising hgh by so much?