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@MaherGOAT you know about nutrition don't you? Isn't my diet pretty OK? But the girl makes you chase is a more important topic.
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...No, it's just the opposite.
I microwave my vegetables. It saves nutrients. I don't fry vegetables in oil as some people do: microwaving without oil leads to fewer calories and keeps the nutrients intact.
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Are You Using Your Microwave to Cook Vegetables? You Should Be.
In a food science class I took a few years ago — a lab-based class held in a large teaching kitchen — the professor forbade the use of microwaves, though there was one at every station. “I just don’t feel they are safe,” she told us. Seriously? This instructor had a master’s of science degree...www.thekitchn.com
"But the truth is that cooking in microwaves is not only perfectly safe, it is one of the best ways to cook vegetables to preserve their nutrients.
When it comes to cooking vegetables, exposure to heat causes the breakdown of some nutrients, such as vitamin C. Certain types of nutrients are also water-soluble, which means they leach out of the vegetables and into the cooking water. So you retain the most nutrients by cooking vegetables quickly and limiting their contact with water."
Thanks for tagging me bro, you are a good poster.My diet for the foreseeable future:
Coffee with oat milk
Honey or teriyaki chicken
1 kg of wok vegetables
2 protein bars
Whey protein
On some rare days, I might eat salmon or tuna. Sometimes pepperoni pizza too, but not often.
Multivitamin, vitamin D, and beta-carotene supplements daily. I have beta-carotene for a couple of months, if it doesn't improve my skin color I will stop using them after I run out of them.
Plenty of water.
@lutte @LondonVillie
Its not linked to cancer bro- Chicken is good, no issues with honey or teriyaki. I like that you are avoiding red meat, which is linked to cancer.
Good point, I should've said processed meat.Its not linked to cancer bro
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Red Meat: The Food They Love to Hate
🖨️ Print post In late October 2015, one of the nutrition establishment’s most cherished villains—red meat—hit the newsstands again in a big way. A report by the cancer […]www.westonaprice.org
You are a good poster too, you seem to have a scientifically backed worldview.Thanks for tagging me bro, you are a good poster.
Here are my opinions:
- The number one problem here is that the arguably most important metric, total number of calories, and in relation to that, your goal diet wise isn't stated. If your goal is to maintain your weight while improving health, then you need to make sure your total caloric intake is adequate.
Now onto the specific foods:
- Coffee I like, it is good. Oat milk is also good. I recently switched to almond and oat milk because lactose seems to mess with my stomach as I get older
- Chicken is good, no issues with honey or teriyaki. I like that you are avoiding red meat, which is linked to cancer.
- 1KG of vegetables is a great source of vitamins and fibre, also volumous and filling.
- Protein bars are IMO generally bad - a lot of calories, not that many grams of protein. Would probably prefer to eat a meal instead of 2 protein bars (I'm guessing they are around 400-600 kcal for two bars).
- Protein powder is fine to get in enough protein, especially if you are eating a low caloric diet on purpose for weight loss. However eating another healthy protein source would probably be ideal
- What your diet seems to be seriously lacking is some source of fats. I would advice you to attempt to get 40-60g of fat per day somehow. I eat sardines in tomato sauce on bread + omega 3 capsules. Try finding some healthy fatty source
- Your diet also seems to be low on carbs, however I can definitely understand that if you are trying to shred down. Hard to say since your goals and caloric intake isn't stated
I like oat milk because it tastes better in coffee than normal milk.Yes because mainstream diet advice is bullshit. My opinions follow what the healthiest tribes/groups of people in the world eat and what properly done studies have concluded.
Anti nutrients are present in every vegetable, a quick google search and you will learn about it. Thats why earlier groups consumed them in small amounts and prepared them correctly so they could be eaten (soaked, cooked etc). They are complimentary. They should never be the main source of food in someones diet. Especially if youre getting them in the supermarket, where theyre full of pesticides and other toxic shit. U should at least be getting organic. Fatty meat and organ meats and raw dairy should be the main part of a good diet.
All healthy tribes ate high fat diets. In south sudan the tallest tribes like dinkas, neur and masai ate and still eat raw diets. Raw milk, raw dairy, raw meat etc. Its not a surprise they were one of the healthiest and tallest groups in the world (average used to be 6ft4 or so for males). And so did other healthy tribes in the world that eat similar things, all free of disease.
I believe you think cow milk is bad and thats why u are consuming oat milk. And yes pasteurized supermarket milk is really bad indeed. Raw milk is amazing on the other hand.
Oat milk has carbs yes. Why do you believe thats a good thing? Carbs have always been a very small part of diets, coming from healthy sources such as honey, fruits especially wild berries and sourdough bread. Until propaganda started demonizing fats and carbs became the most consumed macronutrient. Our body runs more efficiently on fats and its way more satiating than carbs. Way easier to stay lean and healthy with fats.
Your protein bars are probably full of harmful ingredients. And high protein depleting vitamin A is just a fact. Protein and vit a should be balanced.
This site is all about health and looks but nobody seems to now anything right about diet lol
There is no scientific reason why microwaving would kill nutrients in vegetables. The mainstream opinion is just the opposite of yours: microwaving vegetables is the best way to preserve their nutrients (broccoli is an exception)....
Oh cool an article without any scientific references and just an "expert" talking about microwaves.
So nice you destroy at least half the nutrients in your vegetables from just microwaving alone. It does not keep the nutrients intact jfl.
The fat increases the absorption and bioavailability of the nutrients in your vegetables. Without fat they are really poorly absorbed lmao.. they basically arent absorbed..
If you wish to learn something about microwaves, here is an article with a bunch of references and not bullshit from an "expert". It is not hard to conclude that microwaves destroy and alter foods. It is just a fact..
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Debunking the Myth That Microwave Ovens Are Harmless
Written by Merinda Teller, PhDwww.westonaprice.org
ok coolYou are a good poster too, you seem to have a scientifically backed worldview.
I have a calorie deficit of about 500 calories a day. I get around 2,2-2,4 grams of protein per kilogram of body weight daily, which probably is adequate.
One protein bar has 200 calories and 20 grams of protein. If I eat 2 a day I get 400 calories and 40 g of protein from them. They are "real" protein bars, not glorified snickers like some other "protein" bars (= a lot of calories but not much more protein than chocolate bars). I like them because they are convenient and easy: I eat them at work sometimes.
Whey protein powder has a bit fewer calories than protein bars (I think 100 calories per 20 g of protein instead of 200 calories per 20 g of protein), but protein bars have carbs that whey powder lacks, are more convenient, and taste better. I still use whey protein but I have started to like these cheap protein bars too.
I take omega-3 capsules occasionally. I think I get around 40-50 g of fat daily.
Yeah, my carb intake isn't high, but because of oat milk, it's OK. I wouldn't say I'm on a low-carb diet but not high carb either.
Good feedback.
okay so are you going to prove the article i sent you and all the studies wrong then?. can you show me any studies at all proving microwaving vegetables is a good idea?There is no scientific reason why microwaving would kill nutrients in vegetables. The mainstream opinion is just the opposite of yours: microwaving vegetables is the best way to preserve their nutrients (broccoli is an exception).
okay bro but im just saying oat milk has no nutritional value and is usually filled with sugar to make it palatable and usually added syntethic badly absorbed supplements like calcium and vit d2.I like oat milk because it tastes better in coffee than normal milk.
I need carbs to get the energy to work and train. I don't believe in low-carb: if some people lose weight with a low-carb diet, that's OK, they should do whatever gets them the results they desire, but I don't see a reason to be on a low-carb diet.
I think I get around 40-50 grams of fats daily. It should be enough.okay bro but im just saying oat milk has no nutritional value and is usually filled with sugar to make it palatable and usually added syntethic badly absorbed supplements like calcium and vit d2.
normal milk as in pasteurized crap from supermarket is just as bad.
yes everybody needs carbs. but even more important than carbs are fats. which u have none lol.
What are wok vegetables?My diet for the foreseeable future:
Coffee with oat milk
Honey or teriyaki chicken
1 kg of wok vegetables
2 protein bars
Whey protein
On some rare days, I might eat salmon or tuna. Sometimes pepperoni pizza too, but not often.
Multivitamin, vitamin D, and beta-carotene supplements daily. I have beta-carotene for a couple of months, if it doesn't improve my skin color I will stop using them after I run out of them.
Plenty of water.
@lutte @LondonVillie
Same vegetables that Asians use when they make stir fry vegetables. But I don't fry them in oil, I just microwave them.What are wok vegetables?
Yeah, I like the taste of protein bars. And they have carbs and fats that whey protein powder doesn't have, which is good, because I need those carbs and fats.Ideally getting more whey protein is probably better then protein bars, but if you look at it as a tasty snack
you can treat you self without too much guilt, then go for it, I assume you plan to eat this for many years, so having something
nice isn't bad, especially if its a protein bar
You need beef inside imo, it has a lot of protein and its full of things you need (for example creatine, which helps with cognitive function)
Livers are very good also, personally I dislike the taste and don't think they are sustainable for me long-term
if you don't want to add beef, then at least supplement with 1gram of creatine daily and some zinc
also its a good diet in general, way better then what the average person eats
Looks familiar? The vegetables that I eat look like this:I see. We eat a lot of cabbage here. That's the biggest one.
Science-Based Medicine evaluated the medical and nutritional claims of the Weston A. Price Foundation and concludes the website is "one of the worst on the internet" due to misleading and false information.![]()
Debunking the Myth That Microwave Ovens Are Harmless
Written by Merinda Teller, PhDwww.westonaprice.org
as if the government wants you to be healthyScience-Based Medicine evaluated the medical and nutritional claims of the Weston A. Price Foundation and concludes the website is "one of the worst on the internet" due to misleading and false information.
Let's see what Harvard has to say about microwaving vegetables....
Oh cool an article without any scientific references and just an "expert" talking about microwaves.
So nice you destroy at least half the nutrients in your vegetables from just microwaving alone. It does not keep the nutrients intact jfl.
The fat increases the absorption and bioavailability of the nutrients in your vegetables. Without fat they are really poorly absorbed lmao.. they basically arent absorbed..
If you wish to learn something about microwaves, here is an article with a bunch of references and not bullshit from an "expert". It is not hard to conclude that microwaves destroy and alter foods. It is just a fact..
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Debunking the Myth That Microwave Ovens Are Harmless
Written by Merinda Teller, PhDwww.westonaprice.org
You still havent been able to prove wrong the article and the 40 references in it.Let's see what Harvard has to say about microwaving vegetables.
The cooking method that best retains nutrients is one that cooks quickly, heats food for the shortest amount of time, and uses as little liquid as possible. Microwaving meets those criteria. Using the microwave with a small amount of water essentially steams food from the inside out. That keeps in more vitamins and minerals than almost any other cooking method and shows microwave food can indeed be healthy.
But because microwave cooking times are shorter, cooking with a microwave does a better job of preserving vitamin C and other nutrients that break down when heated.
Vegetables, pretty much any way you prepare them, are good for you, and most of us don't eat enough of them. And is the microwave oven good or bad? The microwave is a marvel of engineering, a miracle of convenience — and sometimes nutritionally advantageous to boot.
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Microwave cooking and nutrition - Harvard Health
Is microwave food healthy? Some people believe cooking food with microwaves is dangerous and somehow makes food less healthy by zapping away nutrients....www.health.harvard.edu
@RecessedCel5 we have the most prestigious university in this universe saying that microwaving is safe and the best way to preserve nutrients in vegetables, and then we have some no-name fake news website claiming the opposite.
Guess what I'm going to trust?
I think the guys at Harvard have more scientific credibility than some anti-science fearmongers.
the "anti-science" fearmongers have over 40 references in their article while I dont see a single reference in the "pro" science harvard guys. Not even a single study.I think the guys at Harvard have more scientific credibility than some anti-science fearmongers.
microwaves suck , they radiate you and make you gay .Let's see what Harvard has to say about microwaving vegetables.
The cooking method that best retains nutrients is one that cooks quickly, heats food for the shortest amount of time, and uses as little liquid as possible. Microwaving meets those criteria. Using the microwave with a small amount of water essentially steams food from the inside out. That keeps in more vitamins and minerals than almost any other cooking method and shows microwave food can indeed be healthy.
But because microwave cooking times are shorter, cooking with a microwave does a better job of preserving vitamin C and other nutrients that break down when heated.
Vegetables, pretty much any way you prepare them, are good for you, and most of us don't eat enough of them. And is the microwave oven good or bad? The microwave is a marvel of engineering, a miracle of convenience — and sometimes nutritionally advantageous to boot.
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Microwave cooking and nutrition - Harvard Health
Is microwave food healthy? Some people believe cooking food with microwaves is dangerous and somehow makes food less healthy by zapping away nutrients....www.health.harvard.edu
@RecessedCel5 we have the most prestigious university in this universe saying that microwaving is safe and the best way to preserve nutrients in vegetables, and then we have some no-name fake news website claiming the opposite.
Guess what I'm going to trust?
I think the guys at Harvard have more scientific credibility than some anti-science fearmongers.
Yeah, that's pretty much what we eat.Looks familiar? The vegetables that I eat look like this:
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Ugh. Add Omega-3 (or fish and nuts every day), banana, amino acids, honey, and a booster or two (low-cal energy drink or kick of Kratom.) Both are known to entice the metabolism and encourage muscle expansion. But don't go asking dicksucking fitness experts. Those people are fucked in their heads and make me WANNA BREAK THEM IN HALF! UGGH! Also, consider prebiotics and turmeric. Pussy daily, or bidaily, also stimulates the body to stay hard but replenishing testosterone is a must.My diet for the foreseeable future:
Coffee with oat milk
Honey or teriyaki chicken
1 kg of wok vegetables
2 protein bars
Whey protein
On some rare days, I might eat salmon or tuna. Sometimes pepperoni pizza too, but not often.
Multivitamin, vitamin D, and beta-carotene supplements daily. I have beta-carotene for a couple of months, if it doesn't improve my skin color I will stop using them after I run out of them.
Plenty of water.
@lutte @LondonVillie
I eat tuna and salmon every now and then. Yesterday my main meal was tuna, honey chicken and vegetables.Ugh. Add Omega-3 (or fish and nuts every day), banana, amino acids, honey, and a booster or two (low-cal energy drink or kick of Kratom.) Both are known to entice the metabolism and encourage muscle expansion. But don't go asking dicksucking fitness experts. Those people are fucked in their heads and make me WANNA BREAK THEM IN HALF! UGGH! Also, consider prebiotics and turmeric. Pussy daily, or bidaily, also stimulates the body to stay hard but replenishing testosterone is a must.
Careful with those two. Mercury poisoning is a real thing.I eat tuna and salmon every now and then. Yesterday my main meal was tuna, honey chicken and vegetables.
No need for bananas, honey or boosters.
True but salmon is low mercury fish. Tuna is high on mercury, you are right about that.Careful with those two. Mercury poisoning is a real thing.
Milk is lifeHarvard approves my diet. Harvard states that milk consumption should be limited; oat milk probably doesn't count as milk. I might ask them to make sure, but I'm pretty convinced that plant-based milk isn't included. @lutte
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Your misinformed opinion is an anti-scientific take. I know that microwave is a weird-sounding word, but no need to fear. Microwaving food is a safe, and sometimes even optimal, way to heat food, as the experts from Harvard already declared.microwaves suck , they radiate you and make you gay .
and veggies don't have bio available nutrients like meat does .
i prefer to be safe .Your misinformed opinion is an anti-scientific take. I know that microwave is a weird-sounding word, but no need to fear. Microwaving food is a safe, and sometimes even optimal, way to heat food, as the experts from Harvard already declared.
Microwaving vegetables makes you safer because you get more nutrients that way.i prefer to be safe .
i don't trust it .
So I could cook it in olive and coconut oil? Those are fats? Some ppl don't recommend plant oils like coconut and olive oils in general.at least 10g
idk put some olive oil and fry i guess in a pan. but not for a long time
honestly a 4/10, pretty gayMy diet for the foreseeable future:
Coffee with oat milk
Honey or teriyaki chicken
1 kg of wok vegetables
2 protein bars
Whey protein
On some rare days, I might eat salmon or tuna. Sometimes pepperoni pizza too, but not often.
Multivitamin, vitamin D, and beta-carotene supplements daily. I have beta-carotene for a couple of months, if it doesn't improve my skin color I will stop using them after I run out of them.
Plenty of water.
@lutte @LondonVillie