Rate my first cycle (17) High Iq replies would be appreciated.

[Malone335]

Currently 17, 160 lbs 5”10:


300 mg test c pinned 3x a week

(Will add in 8iu gh daily once potential bloat from test is addressed)

Hcg 250iu 2x weekly

Have Arimidex on hand, will get bloods done on week 6 and add in 0.25 2x weekly accordingly. Planning on doing this for 6 months, will most likely add in other clean compounds mid cycle Anavar or Primo. Main goal is some bone growth and to put on some size and get stronger in the gym. I may just cruise indefinitely depending how well i recover after pcting off, not opposed to it. Im aware the dose is low just not trying to be a bloatcell and have a pizza face.

Other ancillaries:
eplerenone (12.5mg daily to control bloat)
Tudca (250mg daily)
Nac (600mg daily)
Citrus bergamot (1200mg daily)
Milk thistle (300mg daily)
Taurine (1000mg daily)
Etc…

My main questions/concerns:
Is this dose enough for bone growth in that time period?

Will i be fine without an ai my first 6 weeks before getting bloods? As im not trying to close my growth plates as they are still open.

How can i prevent acne with accutane?

What is the appropriate Arimidex dosing weekly and frequency if im not trying to compromise my brain development/ make myself retarded?

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Im open to criticism as long as it’s not too extreme, still trying to be on the (safer) side of course.

My other reasoning behind taking this is; why the fuck not take the risk? All the endocrine disrupters and all this hormone wrecking bullshit in our modern day world is effectively feminizing men/making them week. Although my natural total T is not low (836 Ng/Dl). My logic is why not take something thats gonna quite literally improve every aspect of my life? More muscle, better bones, more drive to pursue my dreams, i mean what more could you ask for?

Physique prior to starting anything (maybe not the best photos apologies) :

 

[vi24v_]

Mirin the physique

 

[44z]

Pin every day and up the hcg to 300 eod

 

[CertifiedGoy]

bone growth

Not happening

 

[BR32]

Overkill ancillaries for just test

I also wouldn't abuse HCG for no reason

Pin daily

You won't be growing any bone

 

[NordicLeonhard]

Good but dont expect too big of results in the gym also the bone growth thing is extremly overrated cause of retards on tiktok lol

You problably wont need AI considering that youre lean but its always good to have on hand yk but in 6 weeks the test wont have been saturated for that long anyways

 

[Bishoplol]

300mg is a starting dose you should up it once you assess sides. Adex should not be needed on 300mg and overall avoided. If you encounter estrogen related sides first increase the number of pins weekly (eod -> ed) and if all else fails, lower the dose.

You shouldn't do HCG unless you're trying to impregnate someone. It also desensitizes your LCs which may make your PCT worse if you abuse it.

You won't see ANY bone growth. It's a myth.

No need for GH especially at that dosage. You aren't an IFBB pro.

Also trust me, at 17 you aren't able to confidently make a decision whether or not you want to cruise indefinitely or not. Your main focus should be recovering post PCT and then after a while reconsider it.

I also wouldn't dive into DHT derivatives during first cycle, var maybe yeah but Primo is different. You don't even know how you respond to test. Stick to that and leave DHT derivatives and 19-nors for the 2nd or 3rd cycle.

Other ancillaries:
eplerenone (12.5mg daily to control bloat)
Tudca (250mg daily)
Nac (600mg daily)
Citrus bergamot (1200mg daily)
Milk thistle (300mg daily)
Taurine (1000mg daily)
Etc…

You do not need allat. TUDCA or NAC for liver IF you go for var later. Everything else is mostly redundant. Test is not hepatotoxic so you don't need an entire pharmacy to protect your liver.

Be careful with Accutane and Var at the same time because they're both very bad for your liver.

 

[Malone335]

Mirin the physique

Much love bro, just getting started.

 

[Malone335]

300mg is a starting dose you should up it once you assess sides. Adex should not be needed on 300mg and overall avoided. If you encounter estrogen related sides first increase the number of pins weekly (eod -> ed) and if all else fails, lower the dose.

You shouldn't do HCG unless you're trying to impregnate someone. It also desensitizes your LCs which may make your PCT worse if you abuse it.

You won't see ANY bone growth. It's a myth.

No need for GH especially at that dosage. You aren't an IFBB pro.

Also trust me, at 17 you aren't able to confidently make a decision whether or not you want to cruise indefinitely or not. Your main focus should be recovering post PCT and then after a while reconsider it.

I also wouldn't dive into DHT derivatives during first cycle, var maybe yeah but Primo is different. You don't even know how you respond to test. Stick to that and leave DHT derivatives and 19-nors for the 2nd or 3rd cycle.


You do not need allat. TUDCA or NAC for liver IF you go for var later. Everything else is mostly redundant. Test is not hepatotoxic so you don't need an entire pharmacy to protect your liver.

Be careful with Accutane and Var at the same time because they're both very bad for your liver.

Appreciate this insight alot, you think hcg is viable a littler later into the cycle maybe 250iu 2x a week? Definitely not trying to have a kid in the next 7 years at least obviously, just want to be on the safe side.

 

[Malone335]

300mg is a starting dose you should up it once you assess sides. Adex should not be needed on 300mg and overall avoided. If you encounter estrogen related sides first increase the number of pins weekly (eod -> ed) and if all else fails, lower the dose.

You shouldn't do HCG unless you're trying to impregnate someone. It also desensitizes your LCs which may make your PCT worse if you abuse it.

You won't see ANY bone growth. It's a myth.

No need for GH especially at that dosage. You aren't an IFBB pro.

Also trust me, at 17 you aren't able to confidently make a decision whether or not you want to cruise indefinitely or not. Your main focus should be recovering post PCT and then after a while reconsider it.

I also wouldn't dive into DHT derivatives during first cycle, var maybe yeah but Primo is different. You don't even know how you respond to test. Stick to that and leave DHT derivatives and 19-nors for the 2nd or 3rd cycle.


You do not need allat. TUDCA or NAC for liver IF you go for var later. Everything else is mostly redundant. Test is not hepatotoxic so you don't need an entire pharmacy to protect your liver.

Be careful with Accutane and Var at the same time because they're both very bad for your liver.

Yea i agree the ancillaries are a little od for sure, just want to have everything on hand if i decide to start var a little later down the line.

 

[Bishoplol]

Appreciate this insight alot, you think hcg is viable a littler later into the cycle maybe 250iu 2x a week? Definitely not trying to have a kid in the next 7 years at least obviously, just want to be on the safe side.

No need at all. Usually only makes sense on cruise.

Yea i agree the ancillaries are a little od for sure, just want to have everything on hand if i decide to start var a little later down the line.

You really only need NAC/TUDCA on hand for when you're on var and even that might be overkill

 

[Malone335]

Good but dont expect too big of results in the gym also the bone growth thing is extremly overrated cause of retards on tiktok lol

You problably wont need AI considering that youre lean but its always good to have on hand yk but in 6 weeks the test wont have been saturated for that long anyways

Im assuming i wont have any bad estrogen related sides at this dosage, main reason for wanting to take ai at a low dose is to keep my plates open for a little longer, especially as elevated estrogen will speed that process up.

 

[Bishoplol]

main reason for wanting to take ai at a low dose is to keep my plates open for a little longer

If that's the main reason, then you should never have taken test