Rate my future cycle, looking for recommendations

[suturesplitter]

Week 1-4, 3IU HGH ED
Week 5-20, 6IU HGH ED,
Week 21-24, 4IU HGH ED,

TestE: 500mg Weekly, Inject E3D
12.5 Week Cycle

Aromasin: 12.5mg EOD whilst on test

TUDCA: 1000mg ED throughout

Citrus Bergamot 1500mg ED throughout

Cod Liver Oil 2g ED throughout

Not really sure about PCT cus half the shi has literature linking to limiting height. HGH and tadalafil will act as main pct for the test ig.

 

[Bishoplol]

Week 1-4, 3IU HGH ED
Week 5-20, 6IU HGH ED,
Week 21-24, 4IU HGH ED,

No clue why you're changing the dosages that much but if you're using it for gym enhancement (better sleep, recovery, fat loss), 3-5 IU is more than enough. 6 IU is almost overkill. 3 IU works best without side effects. Worth running the entire year.

TestE: 500mg Weekly, Inject E3D
12.5 Week Cycle

Cycle too short + E3D is way too infrequent. Daily or don't bother.

Aromasin: 12.5mg EOD whilst on test

You can fully remove this, if you daily pin.

TUDCA: 1000mg ED throughout

Citrus Bergamot 1500mg ED throughout

Cod Liver Oil 2g ED throughout

This is all fine, although TUDCA is redundant because you have no hepatotoxic compounds in here. If you decide to add something like anavar, sure, otherwise pretty pointless.

Not really sure about PCT cus half the shi has literature linking to limiting height. HGH and tadalafil will act as main pct for the test ig.

What the fuck? HGH and Cialis as PCT? What planet did you fall from? PCT should consist of HCG + Tamoxifen and Clomid. You can get away with HCG only, but the other 2 speed it up and make you feel better.

 

[suturesplitter]

No clue why you're changing the dosages that much but if you're using it for gym enhancement (better sleep, recovery, fat loss), 3-5 IU is more than enough. 6 IU is almost overkill. 3 IU works best without side effects. Worth running the entire year.


Cycle too short + E3D is way too infrequent. Daily or don't bother.


You can fully remove this, if you daily pin.


This is all fine, although TUDCA is redundant because you have no hepatotoxic compounds in here. If you decide to add something like anavar, sure, otherwise pretty pointless.


What the fuck? HGH and Cialis as PCT? What planet did you fall from? PCT should consist of HCG + Tamoxifen and Clomid. You can get away with HCG only, but the other 2 speed it up and make you feel better.

i missed of the hcg mb. id be running 250 iu e3d whilst on cycle. and yea for tamoxifen and clomid i was just gonna skip cos seerms have literature linking to negative impacts on height. also test e has 4-5 day half life with 7-10 day activity so surely pinning e3d is okay? appreciate your detailed response btw man oh also i was planning on changing hgh doses just for priming phase and coming off

 

[Bishoplol]

i missed of the hcg mb. id be running 250 iu e3d whilst on cycle. and yea for tamoxifen and clomid i was just gonna skip cos seerms have literature linking to negative impacts on height. also test e has 4-5 day half life with 7-10 day activity so surely pinning e3d is okay? appreciate your detailed response btw man oh also i was planning on changing hgh doses just for priming phase and coming off

Tamoxifen and clomid will not stunt your height (lazy reasoning via AI attached, cba to find studies. General knowledge allows you to know this lol).

Anyways, despite it's long ester and consequent long half life, you can inject less frequently however that doesn't mean you should. Why? Because during the fluctuations in test levels, test converts into estrogen via aromatase. If you do not have those fluctuations, you don't aromatize as much, which is in turn allowing you to run higher doses. Here are test levels plotted in steroidplotter.com so you can imagine it better:

Daily pinning (500mg, 75mg daily)

E3D pinning (500mg, 250mg E3D)

You can clearly see the difference. Both are Enanthate esters to be clear.

From personal experience I can tell you, pinning every day isn't that big of a hassle at all. When using insulin pins at 29G, the oil does take slightly longer to draw (30-45 seconds for 75mg) but that's still a minute from your day to pin. It is far better to do this, than to then overdose on aromatase inhibitors and nuke your E2.

TLDR: TAMOXIFEN AND CLOMID DONT STUNT HEIGHT, PIN DAILY ITS BETTER.

 

[suturesplitter]

Tamoxifen and clomid will not stunt your height (lazy reasoning via AI attached, cba to find studies. General knowledge allows you to know this lol).
View attachment 4771785


Anyways, despite it's long ester and consequent long half life, you can inject less frequently however that doesn't mean you should. Why? Because during the fluctuations in test levels, test converts into estrogen via aromatase. If you do not have those fluctuations, you don't aromatize as much, which is in turn allowing you to run higher doses. Here are test levels plotted in steroidplotter.com so you can imagine it better:

Daily pinning (500mg, 75mg daily)
View attachment 4771818

E3D pinning (500mg, 250mg E3D)
View attachment 4771828

You can clearly see the difference. Both are Enanthate esters to be clear.

From personal experience I can tell you, pinning every day isn't that big of a hassle at all. When using insulin pins at 29G, the oil does take slightly longer to draw (30-45 seconds for 75mg) but that's still a minute from your day to pin. It is far better to do this, than to then overdose on aromatase inhibitors and nuke your E2.

TLDR: TAMOXIFEN AND CLOMID DONT STUNT HEIGHT, PIN DAILY ITS BETTER.

great advice man thanks. are there any other extra things you think i should add? my goal is simply accelerated progress in the gym mainly without insane risk. i am 17 also

 

[Bishoplol]

great advice man thanks. are there any other extra things you think i should add? my goal is simply accelerated progress in the gym mainly without insane risk. i am 17 also

The only thing you need is more knowledge. Read forums, read log books, ask questions, search literature and studies to get as much knowledge about this as you can. For accelerated progress just pin the damn 0.3ml of test into your deltoid or ventroglute daily and stop worrying about it. Do it right, 0 side effects. Also don't pct after 1 cycle, stay on for as long as you can. Only get off when you'll want kids or stop forever. Most stay on atleast for 2-3 years if not more, with no side effects or risk of hypogonadism..

 

[suturesplitter]

The only thing you need is more knowledge. Read forums, read log books, ask questions, search literature and studies to get as much knowledge about this as you can. For accelerated progress just pin the damn 0.3ml of test into your deltoid or ventroglute daily and stop worrying about it. Do it right, 0 side effects. Also don't pct after 1 cycle, stay on for as long as you can. Only get off when you'll want kids or stop forever. Most stay on atleast for 2-3 years if not more, with no side effects or risk of hypogonadism..

I had only planned on doing the one 12 week cycle of the test which as you said will by 75mg ED. should I lower this dose in order to be on the test for longer?

 

[Bishoplol]

I had only planned on doing the one 12 week cycle of the test which as you said will by 75mg ED. should I lower this dose in order to be on the test for longer?

No, 500mg is often well tolerated. 12 week is absolutely to short. 16 minimum but 20 is preferred. If you plan on only doing 1 test only cycle, don't even bother doing it. After PCT you will lose everything

 

[suturesplitter]

No, 500mg is often well tolerated. 12 week is absolutely to short. 16 minimum but 20 is preferred. If you plan on only doing 1 test only cycle, don't even bother doing it. After PCT you will lose everything

how many cycle’s would you recommend? and may i ask why you say that 3iu of hgh is enough and should be ran for prolonged period? cheers

 

[Bishoplol]

how many cycle’s would you recommend? and may i ask why you say that 3iu of hgh is enough and should be ran for prolonged period? cheers

Low dose GH should be ran year round or atleast the time youre on gear. As many as you can handle without ruining your body is the only answer.

 

[suturesplitter]

Low dose GH should be ran year round or atleast the time youre on gear. As many as you can handle without ruining your body is the only answer

apologies for so many questions but your advice is helping me lots: atp could you just give me your full recommendation for everything in regards to the test and hgh cycle then i will do further research into everything you list