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Tbh i have some decent features but more than anything my biggest falio is a lack of bonemass

I also have a full softmaxxing ascension plan that I can tag someone in if they want.

5’8 frauded 5’10 16yo 130 lbs
my growth plates are almost fused so im spamming ai and hgh to maybe grow another inch

HGH 5IUS daily
exemestine 12.5mg eod
Testosterone 300mg weekly
HCG 250IU 3x a week on cycle
Enclomiphene 12.5mg on cycle

PCT:
HMG 150 IU 3x a week
Enclomiphene 25mg ed

Im pretty skinny and have an 18 inch bidelt so hopefully it helps with muscle mass too (been gymcelling for 1.5yrs with not much results):redpill: lmk what you guys think.
 
@Sachlichkeit thanks for your advice lmk what you think
 
good stack for an 22 year old but it will more hurt you than help you
 
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u should look into var since ur growth plates r about to close, could give u that last second height velocity boost.
 
u should look into var since ur growth plates r about to close, could give u that last second height velocity boost.
really? Ive read lots of heightmaxxing threads but never read of using var for height. Ill look into it
 
good stack for an 22 year old but it will more hurt you than help you
how? what would you reccomend I change? Ill get bloodowork done every 3 months and only run ts until the new year (6 months)
 
really? Ive read lots of heightmaxxing threads but never read of using var for height. Ill look into it
i'm on it rn, 16 as well; there are a couple studies that show height velocity increases in teenagers/children by more than double in some.
 
Dude is retarded. Disregard his advice.

OP, don’t know why the fuck you need Enclo on cycle like you’re not taking suppressive compounds anyway. People might use Enclo to substitute as a test base but never in conjunction. Retarded to use it on cycle.
Non-steroidal AI is okay for a height protocol but I’d use Aromasin if I wasn’t considerate of my height, in this case you aren’t so that’s fine.
You don’t need HMG, waste of money, you won’t become permanently infertile from one cycle. No need for such an intervention.

This is a basic review until I’m at my computer.
 
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Dude is retarded. Disregard his advice.

OP, don’t know why the fuck you need Enclo on cycle like you’re not taking suppressive compounds anyway. People might use Enclo to substitute as a test base but never in conjunction. Retarded to use it on cycle.
Non-steroidal AI is okay for a height protocol but I’d use Aromasin if I wasn’t considerate of my height, in this case you aren’t so that’s fine.
You don’t need HMG, waste of money, you won’t become permanently infertile from one cycle. No need for such an intervention.

This is a basic review until I’m at my computer.
yeah but my parents were pretty infertile and i dont want to risk anything or ruin my fertility
 
Tbh i have some decent features but more than anything my biggest falio is a lack of bonemass

I also have a full softmaxxing ascension plan that I can tag someone in if they want.

5’8 frauded 5’10 16yo 130 lbs
my growth plates are almost fused so im spamming ai and hgh to maybe grow another inch

HGH 5IUS daily
exemestine 12.5mg eod
Testosterone 300mg weekly
HCG 250IU 3x a week on cycle
Enclomiphene 12.5mg on cycle

PCT:
HMG 150 IU 3x a week
Enclomiphene 25mg ed

Im pretty skinny and have an 18 inch bidelt so hopefully it helps with muscle mass too (been gymcelling for 1.5yrs with not much results):redpill: lmk what you guys think.
Wont change ur structure lol ifbu have a shit base nothing will work
 
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yeah but my parents were pretty infertile and i dont want to risk anything or ruin my fertility
“pretty infertile” doesn’t help. You need to get quantitative measures rather than the anecdotes of your parents needing to fuck a ton to have you :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
Get sperm count checked pre-cycle and then immediately post-cycle and like 3 months post-cycle after PCT has long elapsed.
 
i said at the start i have a good base just lack bone mass
Really not going to notice a big difference. This has been said twenty billion times. Stop listening to the advice of retarded 15-year olds that think steroids = mogger face, automatically. Your face is almost fully developed by the age of like, 5.
Getting sick of hearing this bullshit.
 
“pretty infertile” doesn’t help. You need to get quantitative measures rather than the anecdotes of your parents needing to fuck a ton to have you :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
Get sperm count checked pre-cycle and then immediately post-cycle and like 3 months post-cycle after PCT has long elapsed.
they had like 4 miscarriages to have me lol. Since im 16 can I get sperm checked by myself by driving to a clinic or something
 
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Really not going to notice a big difference. This has been said twenty billion times. Stop listening to the advice of retarded 15-year olds that think steroids = mogger face, automatically. Your face is almost fully developed by the age of like, 5.
Getting sick of hearing this bullshit.
then what would you reccomend? I really just need bonemass tbh
 
they had like 4 miscarriages to have me lol. Since im 16 can I get sperm checked by myself by driving to a clinic or something
Miscarriage =/ low sperm count? :feelswat::feelswat:
Not sure regarding the sperm shit, you’d have to look it up for your local area, I never took anything pre-18 so was never a concern.

then what would you reccomend? I really just need bonemass tbh
There is nothing that is going to do that for you.
As aforementioned, your facial structure is almost fully-determined by age 5.
 
Dude is retarded. Disregard his advice.

OP, don’t know why the fuck you need Enclo on cycle like you’re not taking suppressive compounds anyway. People might use Enclo to substitute as a test base but never in conjunction. Retarded to use it on cycle.
Non-steroidal AI is okay for a height protocol but I’d use Aromasin if I wasn’t considerate of my height, in this case you aren’t so that’s fine.
You don’t need HMG, waste of money, you won’t become permanently infertile from one cycle. No need for such an intervention.

This is a basic review until I’m at my computer.
Mirin knowledge :love:
 
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Miscarriage =/ low sperm count? :feelswat::feelswat:
Not sure regarding the sperm shit, you’d have to look it up for your local area, I never took anything pre-18 so was never a concern.


There is nothing that is going to do that for you.
As aforementioned, your facial structure is almost fully-determined by age 5.
awe fuck, never really began did it, and yeah i jusy realized how retarded that sounds, its just what my parents had told me
 
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does anyone have any advice for hairloss on exemestine? Im shedding like crazy but dont want to nuke dht to the ground jusy yet as im only 16
 
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does anyone have any advice for hairloss on exemestine? Im shedding like crazy but dont want to nuke dht to the ground jusy yet as im only 16
Blast ketamine.
 
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awe fuck, never really began did it, and yeah i jusy realized how retarded that sounds, its just what my parents had told me
I get it.
I'm not saying gear won't help, but people greatly overestimate how much it is going to do for your face at the given doses. Just don't expect much.

does anyone have any advice for hairloss on exemestine? Im shedding like crazy but dont want to nuke dht to the ground jusy yet as im only 16
Assuming you're not on-cycle yet and taking this just to delay epiphyseal plate closure:
Taking an AI would mean that there is relatively more testosterone in your body since low E2 will lead to higher LH, signalling to your pituitary to produce more testosterone, which is why a lot of people will note a non-negligible change in testosterone levels when they're taking an AI, non-steroidal or otherwise.
This means that your total/free testosterone levels are higher. Given you aren't using a 5ARi like Fin or Dut, relatively more testosterone is being converted to DHT which might be accelerating symptoms of male androgenetic alopecia (MAA), i.e., your shedding.
Hormonal volatility could also cause telogen effluvium, which topical minoxidil could help to combat to some extent.
But to solve the root cause, i.e., your balding due to higher DHT levels, just take a topical anti-androgen like RU-58841 to not systemically lower DHT levels meaning your sexual development won't suffer.
Use topical minoxidil for now, then try a topical anti-androgen should your symptoms persist.

I really doubt that the change in testosterone levels from an AI standalone is going to be accelerating your MAA to such an extent though, so it's more likely-than-not telogen effluvium from hormonal imbalance/fluctuation. Just try topical minoxidil for now as aforementioned.
 
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Really not going to notice a big difference. This has been said twenty billion times. Stop listening to the advice of retarded 15-year olds that think steroids = mogger face, automatically. Your face is almost fully developed by the age of like, 5.
Getting sick of hearing this bullshit.
What do you think about using mast for penis growth and muscle mass?:forcedsmile:
 
What do you think about using mast for penis growth and muscle mass?:forcedsmile:
Penile growth is going to be highly-dependent on exposure to androgens in the womb and also early on as an infant.
Regardless, since Masteron is a DHT derivative, the consequent exposure to your androgen receptors in the penis might help with growth to some extent.
Obviously it will help with muscle mass but I wouldn't use it standalone.
Your best bet is an all-day stretcher + pump in conjunction with metribolone (highly hepatotoxic and I wouldn't touch myself, something like DHT cream applied topically to the penis will work still, and work well) as well as PGE-1 + Tadalafil.
 
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I get it.
I'm not saying gear won't help, but people greatly overestimate how much it is going to do for your face at the given doses. Just don't expect much.


Assuming you're not on-cycle yet and taking this just to delay epiphyseal plate closure:
Taking an AI would mean that there is relatively more testosterone in your body since low E2 will lead to higher LH, signalling to your pituitary to produce more testosterone, which is why a lot of people will note a non-negligible change in testosterone levels when they're taking an AI, non-steroidal or otherwise.
This means that your total/free testosterone levels are higher. Given you aren't using a 5ARi like Fin or Dut, relatively more testosterone is being converted to DHT which might be accelerating symptoms of male androgenetic alopecia (MAA), i.e., your shedding.
Hormonal volatility could also cause telogen effluvium, which topical minoxidil could help to combat to some extent.
But to solve the root cause, i.e., your balding due to higher DHT levels, just take a topical anti-androgen like RU-58841 to not systemically lower DHT levels meaning your sexual development won't suffer.
Use topical minoxidil for now, then try a topical anti-androgen should your symptoms persist.

I really doubt that the change in testosterone levels from an AI standalone is going to be accelerating your MAA to such an extent though, so it's more likely-than-not telogen effluvium from hormonal imbalance/fluctuation. Just try topical minoxidil for now as aforementioned.
thanks dude. mirin high iq. Ive been on topical minox for almost two months ans not really noticed anything, so ill def get ru-58841. And yeah, it probably really wont do much tbh, but worst case scenario ill just get muscles from this ig
 
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Tbh i have some decent features but more than anything my biggest falio is a lack of bonemass

I also have a full softmaxxing ascension plan that I can tag someone in if they want.

5’8 frauded 5’10 16yo 130 lbs
my growth plates are almost fused so im spamming ai and hgh to maybe grow another inch

HGH 5IUS daily
exemestine 12.5mg eod
Testosterone 300mg weekly
HCG 250IU 3x a week on cycle
Enclomiphene 12.5mg on cycle

PCT:
HMG 150 IU 3x a week
Enclomiphene 25mg ed

Im pretty skinny and have an 18 inch bidelt so hopefully it helps with muscle mass too (been gymcelling for 1.5yrs with not much results):redpill: lmk what you guys think.
Nigga a picture would help ngl
 
ITS GOOD. DONT PCT STAY ON THIS FOR MINIMUM 2 YEARS
 
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thanks dude. mirin high iq. Ive been on topical minox for almost two months ans not really noticed anything, so ill def get ru-58841. And yeah, it probably really wont do much tbh, but worst case scenario ill just get muscles from this ig
You are applying it to the scalp, yes?
 
yep, scalp and eyebrows but pretty much no noticeable change in hair
Probably a lack of sulfotransferase enzymes in your skin.
Minoxidil needs this enzyme to convert to its active form.
You could always try oral minoxidil since these enzymes are not scarce in the liver. But obviously that is going to yield effects on blood pressure too.
 
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Nigga a picture would help ngl
IMG 3671
 
Penile growth is going to be highly-dependent on exposure to androgens in the womb and also early on as an infant.
Regardless, since Masteron is a DHT derivative, the consequent exposure to your androgen receptors in the penis might help with growth to some extent.
Obviously it will help with muscle mass but I wouldn't use it standalone.
Your best bet is an all-day stretcher + pump in conjunction with metribolone (highly hepatotoxic and I wouldn't touch myself, something like DHT cream applied topically to the penis will work still, and work well) as well as PGE-1 + Tadalafil.
It is better Mast or Stanozol:unsure:
 
It is better Mast or Stanozol:unsure:
One search will tell you that Masteron is more androgenic. DYOR. This is surface-level.
Winstrol is also going to dry you out like fuck + harsher on liver. No reason to use it for you. Cmon.
 
Tbh i have some decent features but more than anything my biggest falio is a lack of bonemass

I also have a full softmaxxing ascension plan that I can tag someone in if they want.

5’8 frauded 5’10 16yo 130 lbs
my growth plates are almost fused so im spamming ai and hgh to maybe grow another inch

HGH 5IUS daily
exemestine 12.5mg eod
Testosterone 300mg weekly
HCG 250IU 3x a week on cycle
Enclomiphene 12.5mg on cycle

PCT:
HMG 150 IU 3x a week
Enclomiphene 25mg ed

Im pretty skinny and have an 18 inch bidelt so hopefully it helps with muscle mass too (been gymcelling for 1.5yrs with not much results):redpill: lmk what you guys think.
bro your running 300mg of test, you dont need hcg lol
you prolly wont even need a pct, maybe just some mild enclo
i would do way more hgh and way more test, and way less aromasin
 
AHHHHHHHHHHH

WTF IS THIS

LOW IQ OVERDOSE OMFG
 
bro your running 300mg of test, you dont need hcg lol
you prolly wont even need a pct, maybe just some mild enclo
i would do way more hgh and way more test, and way less aromasin
i cant really do more hgh, probably 6iu max just bc of cost. And yeah i could probably do a higher dose of test, what would you reccomend?
 
One search will tell you that Masteron is more androgenic. DYOR. This is surface-level.
Winstrol is also going to dry you out like fuck + harsher on liver. No reason to use it for you. Cmon.
I want to do dickmaxxing bro:feelshah:
 
Tbh i have some decent features but more than anything my biggest falio is a lack of bonemass

I also have a full softmaxxing ascension plan that I can tag someone in if they want.

5’8 frauded 5’10 16yo 130 lbs
my growth plates are almost fused so im spamming ai and hgh to maybe grow another inch

HGH 5IUS daily
exemestine 12.5mg eod
Testosterone 300mg weekly
HCG 250IU 3x a week on cycle
Enclomiphene 12.5mg on cycle

PCT:
HMG 150 IU 3x a week
Enclomiphene 25mg ed

Im pretty skinny and have an 18 inch bidelt so hopefully it helps with muscle mass too (been gymcelling for 1.5yrs with not much results):redpill: lmk what you guys think.

130 for 5'8 is low. You need to eat more.

Calorie intake doesn't matter, fat is relatively useless. Carbs for energy, protein for muscle building. Should be .7-1g per LB of bodyweight. Whey, canned tuna, chicken breast, eggs, lean beef ground or otherwise. Complex carbs, beans, brown rice, bread, pasta, potatoes. For the underweight in need of instant energy, table sugar, orange juice, fruits. Sugars are simple carbs. Easier to digest. eating only sugar + pinning HGH will stress your pancreas and high blood sugar (diabetes.)

Carbs before workout for energy, protein after for nutrition. If you eat enough carbs and not enough protein you will have enough energy but literally will not grow because HGH requires protein to function. If you eat enough protein and not enough carbs your body will inefficiently turn that protein into energy instead of using it to grow.

>Im pretty skinny and have an 18 inch bidelt so hopefully it helps with muscle mass too (been gymcelling for 1.5yrs with not much results):redpill: lmk what you guys think.

If no gains you are either undereating (this is probably it) or exercises are not high intensity enough. For specific muscle group, go till failure or 1-2 RIR (reps in reserve.) meaning, exercise until specific muscle group is 1-2 reps away from failure. RIR is scientifically proven to be better for recovery and thus muscle growth but I typically go till failure to be *certain* I am doing enough to stimulate muscle growth

Ideal rep range is 6-8. Ideally, you would just put as much stress on the muscle group as possible and only do 2-3 reps, but the odds of injury doing this are high and if you get injured you have to stop cycling so its not worth it.

The 3 contractions that stimulate growth

1. Concentric. Lift the weight, response should be "explosive." not necessarily fast, but explosive.
2. Static. muscular tension in stasis. You fail a pushup, instead of immediately collapsing, try to keep that "failed intermediary" pushup form until your muscles fail. So static contraction comes after concentric failure.
3. Eccentric. This comes after Concentric and static. Its the slower, controlled lowering of the weight (if you are doing bicep curls or something.) It can also come after static failure.

People who lift the weight, and don't control the "lowering" of the weight are missing half the rep. People who do high volume low intensity exercises are essentially doing cardio. 400 pushups a day is an inefficient way to get abs.


>HGH 5IUS daily
exemestine 12.5mg eod
Testosterone 300mg weekly
HCG 250IU 3x a week on cycle
Enclomiphene 12.5mg on cycle

ur AI use will depend on what you want your E to be. Get estradiol bloodtest for like $30 and increase or decrease the dosage depending on your levels. 10-40 is the average range.

Can also sperm test since fertility is a concern. Low sperm is only moderately associated with miscarriage but something like DNA fragmentation (ur sperm has broken or damaged DNA in it) is highly correlated to miscarriage

5iu HGH good. body's response plateaus at around 6-8. Can up dose if you want

750 HCG/wk is good. If you are concerned you can up it to 1k.
300mg test should put you north of 2000ng/dl which will give you results. Pin 150mg Mon Thurs, the half life is 4-5 days.
enclo is worse than HCG for preserving fertility. Could half the dose and lean more on HCG. either way, should be fine.

Miscarriage =/ low sperm count? :feelswat::feelswat:

Yes, the two are mildly correlated. Also having kids isn't a roulette spin wife is either ovulating or shes not. FAMs are about 77%–98% effective

Really not going to notice a big difference. This has been said twenty billion times. Stop listening to the advice of retarded 15-year olds that think steroids = mogger face, automatically. Your face is almost fully developed by the age of like, 5.
Getting sick of hearing this bullshit.

Gear will both age and masculinize your face.

u should look into var since ur growth plates r about to close, could give u that last second height velocity boost.
Anavar is the only good oral steroid, especially for bones. You can run 30-40mg ED for 6wks with very minimal side effects if any. TUDCA or Milkthistle for liver support.

does anyone have any advice for hairloss on exemestine? Im shedding like crazy but dont want to nuke dht to the ground jusy yet as im only 16

You will lose more hair on HGH and T. Testosterone produces DHT which will make your dick bigger, voice deeper, more bonemass and hair on face, but will cause hairloss. Ik a lot of people on the forum really like to systemically NUKE DHT but I think thats retarded. Topical dutasteride. Ketoconazole shampoo 3x/wk, RU58841 Peptide, topical minoxidil + derma roller to grow hair back. DHT is the primary cause of hair loss in men.
 
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Tbh i have some decent features but more than anything my biggest falio is a lack of bonemass

I also have a full softmaxxing ascension plan that I can tag someone in if they want.

5’8 frauded 5’10 16yo 130 lbs
my growth plates are almost fused so im spamming ai and hgh to maybe grow another inch

HGH 5IUS daily
exemestine 12.5mg eod
Testosterone 300mg weekly
HCG 250IU 3x a week on cycle
Enclomiphene 12.5mg on cycle

PCT:
HMG 150 IU 3x a week
Enclomiphene 25mg ed

Im pretty skinny and have an 18 inch bidelt so hopefully it helps with muscle mass too (been gymcelling for 1.5yrs with not much results):redpill: lmk what you guys think.
send soft one and check my recent one
 
130 for 5'8 is low. You need to eat more.

Calorie intake doesn't matter, fat is relatively useless. Carbs for energy, protein for muscle building. Should be .7-1g per LB of bodyweight. Whey, canned tuna, chicken breast, eggs, lean beef ground or otherwise. Complex carbs, beans, brown rice, bread, pasta, potatoes. For the underweight in need of instant energy, table sugar, orange juice, fruits. Sugars are simple carbs. Easier to digest. eating only sugar + pinning HGH will stress your pancreas and high blood sugar (diabetes.)

Carbs before workout for energy, protein after for nutrition. If you eat enough carbs and not enough protein you will have enough energy but literally will not grow because HGH requires protein to function. If you eat enough protein and not enough carbs your body will inefficiently turn that protein into energy instead of using it to grow.

>Im pretty skinny and have an 18 inch bidelt so hopefully it helps with muscle mass too (been gymcelling for 1.5yrs with not much results):redpill: lmk what you guys think.

If no gains you are either undereating (this is probably it) or exercises are not high intensity enough. For specific muscle group, go till failure or 1-2 RIR (reps in reserve.) meaning, exercise until specific muscle group is 1-2 reps away from failure. RIR is scientifically proven to be better for recovery and thus muscle growth but I typically go till failure to be *certain* I am doing enough to stimulate muscle growth

Ideal rep range is 6-8. Ideally, you would just put as much stress on the muscle group as possible and only do 2-3 reps, but the odds of injury doing this are high and if you get injured you have to stop cycling so its not worth it.

The 3 contractions that stimulate growth

1. Concentric. Lift the weight, response should be "explosive." not necessarily fast, but explosive.
2. Static. muscular tension in stasis. You fail a pushup, instead of immediately collapsing, try to keep that "failed intermediary" pushup form until your muscles fail. So static contraction comes after concentric failure.
3. Eccentric. This comes after Concentric and static. Its the slower, controlled lowering of the weight (if you are doing bicep curls or something.) It can also come after static failure.

People who lift the weight, and don't control the "lowering" of the weight are missing half the rep. People who do high volume low intensity exercises are essentially doing cardio. 400 pushups a day is an inefficient way to get abs.


>HGH 5IUS daily
exemestine 12.5mg eod
Testosterone 300mg weekly
HCG 250IU 3x a week on cycle
Enclomiphene 12.5mg on cycle

ur AI use will depend on what you want your E to be. Get estradiol bloodtest for like $30 and increase or decrease the dosage depending on your levels. 10-40 is the average range.

Can also sperm test since fertility is a concern. Low sperm is only moderately associated with miscarriage but something like DNA fragmentation (ur sperm has broken or damaged DNA in it) is highly correlated to miscarriage

5iu HGH good. body's response plateaus at around 6-8. Can up dose if you want

750 HCG/wk is good. If you are concerned you can up it to 1k.
300mg test should put you north of 2000ng/dl which will give you results. Pin 150mg Mon Thurs, the half life is 4-5 days.
enclo is worse than HCG for preserving fertility. Could half the dose and lean more on HCG. either way, should be fine.



Yes, the two are mildly correlated. Also having kids isn't a roulette spin wife is either ovulating or shes not. FAMs are about 77%–98% effective



Gear will both age and masculinize your face.


Anavar is the only good oral steroid, especially for bones. You can run 30-40mg ED for 6wks with very minimal side effects if any. TUDCA or Milkthistle for liver support.



You will lose more hair on HGH and T. Testosterone produces DHT which will make your dick bigger, voice deeper, more bonemass and hair on face, but will cause hairloss. Ik a lot of people on the forum really like to systemically NUKE DHT but I think thats retarded. Topical dutasteride. Ketoconazole shampoo 3x/wk, RU58841 Peptide, topical minoxidil + derma roller to grow hair back. DHT is the primary cause of hair loss in men.
I forgot 2 mention protein only supports muscle growth in a 48 hour window. After 48 hours any protein relating to muscles goes to sustaining them rather than growing them. Because of gear, ur recovery period is going to be drastically shorter. Split should be 3days/wk. 48hs inbetween.
 

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