Rate my Tren Cycle at 17

[chot]

17M, bones are 15 (xrayed) here's my 16 week bulking cycle:

Injectables:
Test Cyp 500-600mgs weekly
Tren Acetate 250-350mgs weekly (raised after week 8)
Hgh 12ius split morning and night (hgh year round)
20 units glow70 reconned with 3ml bac water daily
250-500mcg ghrp-2 daily

Orals:
40-80mgs telmisartan daily (80mgs when bp rises)
5-10mgs Cialis daily (10mgs when bp rises)
5-10mgs nebivolol (10mgs when bp rises)
.25-.375mgs prami
.25mgs dutasteride twice a week (to bbc mog)
12.5mgs aromasin every 2 days
1800mgs berberine (split daily through meals)
1500mgs metformin (same as above)
Daily electrolytes (too extensive to list)

Will cruise 200mgs cyp after 16 weeks
All advice (not from virtue signaling retards) welcomed

 

[sentix301]

why ghrp-2 & HGH at the same time. Just a waste of money

 

[hej1377]

Ghrp is useless while hgh is supressing you

Jfl at that dut dose, 2,5mg a day,dht is useless for you

Berberine is utter dogshit

Metformin isnt enough, switch the berberine and met for reta

You need ru58841, aspirin,rosuvastin,mexidol and ss31 as well

 

[trav11]

17M, bones are 15 (xrayed) here's my 16 week bulking cycle:

Injectables:
Test Cyp 500-600mgs weekly
Tren Acetate 250-350mgs weekly (raised after week 8)
Hgh 12ius split morning and night (hgh year round)
20 units glow70 reconned with 3ml bac water daily
250-500mcg ghrp-2 daily

Orals:
40-80mgs telmisartan daily (80mgs when bp rises)
5-10mgs Cialis daily (10mgs when bp rises)
5-10mgs nebivolol (10mgs when bp rises)
.25-.375mgs prami
.25mgs dutasteride twice a week (to bbc mog)
12.5mgs aromasin every 2 days
1800mgs berberine (split daily through meals)
1500mgs metformin (same as above)
Daily electrolytes (too extensive to list)

Will cruise 200mgs cyp after 16 weeks
All advice (not from virtue signaling retards) welcomed

waste to spend so much it improves but you can improve the same just in a shorter time while having more money

 

[forestanon]

Ghrp is useless while hgh is supressing you

Jfl at that dut dose, 2,5mg a day,dht is useless for you

Berberine is utter dogshit

Metformin isnt enough, switch the berberine and met for reta

You need ru58841, aspirin,rosuvastin,mexidol as well

dht is not useless at all if ur bone age is 15 altho i agree ru would objectively be better
reta isnt gonna be better than metformin+berberine for insulin control unless youre doing 5mg+ which would beat the whole point of the cycle
i dont see a reason in taking aspirin

also note for op metformin is gonna supress ur igf1 output from hgh by a bit imo id switch it for alpha lipoic acid and chromium picolinate if ur concerned ab insulin resistance

 

[hej1377]

dht is not useless at all if ur bone age is 15 altho i agree ru would objectively be better
reta isnt gonna be better than metformin+berberine for insulin control unless youre doing 5mg+ which would beat the whole point of the cycle
i dont see a reason in taking aspirin

also note for op metformin is gonna supress ur igf1 output from hgh by a bit imo id switch it for alpha lipoic acid and chromium picolinate if ur concerned ab insulin resistance

Its still useless because dht doesnt help bones in anyway thats needed in his position, he doesnt need more bone density at 17, ru isnt to replace dut its to add

Berberine is also super weak and also degrader androgen receptors. Metformin is also not nearly strong enough as reta even at lower doses, reta is by far the most effective compound in basically all studies even when theyre at low doses like 1 or 2mg, metformin also wont hepp his lipids nor help viceral fat nearly as much nor even be in the same sphere in terms of insulin resistance. Neither is close to reta

Aspirin is to support his kidneys

 

[forestanon]

Its still useless because dht doesnt help bones in anyway thats needed in his position, he doesnt need more bone density at 17, ru isnt to replace dut its to add

Berberine is also super weak and also degrader androgen receptors. Metformin is also not nearly strong enough as reta even at lower doses, reta is by far the most effective compound in basically all studies even when theyre at low doses like 1 or 2mg, metformin also wont hepp his lipids nor help viceral fat nearly as much nor even be in the same sphere in terms of insulin resistance. Neither is close to reta

Aspirin is to support his kidneys

aspirin isnt needed imo as telmisartan is already protecting his kidneys, other than that high iq im mirin

 

[hej1377]

aspirin isnt needed imo as telmisartan is already protecting his kidneys, other than that high iq im mirin

The protection isnt nearly enough, since tren has such a large effect on rbc and hematocrit, even with aspirin his kidneys are taking a lot of damage and kidneys dont recover very well

Kidney damage here is the biggest worry of them all as its the hardest to both prevent and fix and its pretty severe

 

[chot]

Its still useless because dht doesnt help bones in anyway thats needed in his position, he doesnt need more bone density at 17, ru isnt to replace dut its to add

Berberine is also super weak and also degrader androgen receptors. Metformin is also not nearly strong enough as reta even at lower doses, reta is by far the most effective compound in basically all studies even when theyre at low doses like 1 or 2mg, metformin also wont hepp his lipids nor help viceral fat nearly as much nor even be in the same sphere in terms of insulin resistance. Neither is close to reta

Aspirin is to support his kidneys

Are you retarded? I said this is a bulking cycle. Sure if I wanted to cut I would maybe throw it in (prefer clen over Reta) but im not looking to suppress my appetite.
Ghrp isn’t for gh, it’s for my appetite, again this is a bulking cycle. I said it in the first sentence you fucking idiot.
I do not get hair loss, I do not need more dut or ru58841, I asked for cycle advice, not your own cycle with your own goals and aspirations. I’m sorry you’re balding, but im not. I am taking enough dut to keep me slightly above normal in dht levels for the penile growth.
The comps you recommend also suck ass, they’re either expensive, don’t lower bp even a noticeable amount, or they just don’t fit my needs or goals at all.
Metformin and berb is needed with high dose hgh. High glucose literally lowers igf. I don’t even know where you got the idea met lowers igf. You sound like a massive retard. If anything it would raise igf since it lowers my blood glucose.
You’re not a virtue signaler, you’re just a Grade A Retard.

 

[hej1377]

Are you retarded? I said this is a bulking cycle. Sure if I wanted to cut I would maybe throw it in (prefer clen over Reta) but im not looking to suppress my appetite.

The point of reta here isnt to supress your appetite. Its to prevent insulin reisstance from hgh

Ghrp isn’t for gh, it’s for my appetite, again this is a bulking cycle. I said it in the first sentence you fucking idiot.

A ghrp increases apetite by increasing gh which makes you hungrier, its unable to do this when you already have hgh which makes it unable to make you hungrier, learn the mechanisms idiot

do not get hair loss, I do not need more dut or ru58841, I asked for cycle advice, not your own cycle with your own goals and aspirations. I’m sorry you’re balding, but im not. I am taking enough dut to keep me slightly above normal in dht levels for the penile growth.

You have no idea if you will end up losing hair or not as likely nothing is even close to being comparable to these conditions. Even if you dont youve still allowed androgens to desecrate your hairfollicles leading to premature hairloss. An also bigger problem that youve somehow missed is the huge elastin loss from androgenicity by upregulation of mmp's. Tren also does the penile growth here and the dht isnt needed as tren is already super androgenic but its not useless like dht and also adds anabolism

The comps you recommend also suck ass, they’re either expensive, don’t lower bp even a noticeable amount, or they just don’t fit my needs or goals at all.

You clearly have no idea what youre talking about. No a single thing i meantioned was for bp nor i do even know how you could interpret it that way unless your completely cluless. Rosuvastatin was to prevent tren from absolutely raping your lipids. Tren is horrible on the kidneys which is why i recommended aspirin, kidney damage is a bigger worry here than heart damage btw. Then mexidol is to protect your brain from tren since it ceoases the bbb so effectively and inhibits synaptogeneis and overstimulates your cns causing also intraneural oxadative stress making you an even bigger retard. Ru58841 and ss31 was to prevent premature ageing so that thhis stakc isnt a looksmin, ss31 to prevent mtor induced ageing and ru for androgenic photoageing

So if your goals is to be ugly and unhealthy then sure go ahead and skip them

High glucose literally lowers igf. I don’t even know where you got the idea met lowers igf. You sound like a massive retard. If anything it would raise igf since it lowers my blood glucose.
You’re not a virtue signaler, you’re just a Grade A Retard.

No its the opposite, if it wasnt slin would make people smaller instead of way bigger. And we can clearly conclude that it doesnt. Litterally a google search away

Met stimulates ampk which lowers insulin which lowers igfbp's which makes igf1 in your body less able

Berberine also degrades proteins androgen receptors need making them unstable and that makes berberine an ar degrader which is really counteractive to roiding

You genuinely might be top 10 most clueless overconfident retards ive ever come accross here

 

[chot]

dht is not useless at all if ur bone age is 15 altho i agree ru would objectively be better
reta isnt gonna be better than metformin+berberine for insulin control unless youre doing 5mg+ which would beat the whole point of the cycle
i dont see a reason in taking aspirin

also note for op metformin is gonna supress ur igf1 output from hgh by a bit imo id switch it for alpha lipoic acid and chromium picolinate if ur concerned ab insulin resistanc

dht is not useless at all if ur bone age is 15 altho i agree ru would objectively be better
reta isnt gonna be better than metformin+berberine for insulin control unless youre doing 5mg+ which would beat the whole point of the cycle
i dont see a reason in taking aspirin

also note for op metformin is gonna supress ur igf1 output from hgh by a bit imo id switch it for alpha lipoic acid and chromium picolinate if ur concerned ab insulin resistance

youre right abt reta and dht but wrong abt met. met has only been shown to lower igf by about 5-30ng/dl of igf. that is extremely inconsequential compared to the 800-1500ngs/dl igf someone would have on 12ius gh daily. i will add ala to my oral stack instead of replacing met, ala is significantly less potent at reducing blood glucose than met or even berb, same for chromium. i semi-thank you for the recommendation.

 

[chot]

The point of reta here isnt to supress your appetite. Its to prevent insulin reisstance from hgh

A ghrp increases apetite by increasing gh which makes you hungrier, its unable to do this when you already have hgh which makes it unable to make you hungrier, learn the mechanisms idiot

You have no idea if you will end up losing hair or not as likely nothing is even close to being comparable to these conditions. Even if you dont youve still allowed androgens to desecrate your hairfollicles leading to premature hairloss. An also bigger problem that youve somehow missed is the huge elastin loss from androgenicity by upregulation of mmp's. Tren also does the penile growth here and the dht isnt needed as tren is already super androgenic but its not useless like dht and also adds anabolism

You clearly have no idea what youre talking about. No a single thing i meantioned was for bp nor i do even know how you could interpret it that way unless your completely cluless. Rosuvastatin was to prevent tren from absolutely raping your lipids. Tren is horrible on the kidneys which is why i recommended aspirin, kidney damage is a bigger worry here than heart damage btw. Then mexidol is to protect your brain from tren since it ceoases the bbb so effectively and inhibits synaptogeneis and overstimulates your cns causing also intraneural oxadative stress making you an even bigger retard. Ru58841 and ss31 was to prevent premature ageing so that thhis stakc isnt a looksmin, ss31 to prevent mtor induced ageing and ru for androgenic photoageing

So if your goals is to be ugly and unhealthy then sure go ahead and skip them


No its the opposite, if it wasnt slin would make people smaller instead of way bigger. And we can clearly conclude that it doesnt. Litterally a google search away

Met stimulates ampk which lowers insulin which lowers igfbp's which makes igf1 in your body less able

Berberine also degrades proteins androgen receptors need making them unstable and that makes berberine an ar degrader which is really counteractive to roiding

You genuinely might be top 10 most clueless overconfident retards ive ever come accross here

man youre a retard, im not even gonna read 1/10th of this. you reta fat fucks are something lol you think its liquid gold.

 

[hej1377]

man youre a retard, im not even gonna read 1/10th of this. you reta fat fucks are something lol you think its liquid gold.

Yeah dnr'd because you got fucking evicerated

 

[chot]

Yeah dnr'd because you got fucking evicerated

5000 posts is insane, you live on this site and still have advice this bad?

 

[hej1377]

5000 posts is insane, you live on this site and still have advice this bad?

Of course you were unable to respond to a single point

 

[chot]

Of course you were unable to respond to a single point

you think ghrps hunger effect comes from hgh, it comes from ghrelin lol. btw, exogenous gh lowers ghrelin, so including ghrp is just common sense if you want to bulk on it. you showed you were a retard in the first sentence. reading the rest and responding would just be a waste of time, especially for someone this arrogant who wouldnt change their opinion. no reason to continue what you think is a debate with a bottom of the barrel member of society like this. thanks for taking the time to give what you think was good advice, tho. even though youre a retard.

 

[hej1377]

you think ghrps hunger effect comes from hgh, it comes from ghrelin lol. btw, exogenous gh lowers ghrelin, so including ghrp is just common sense if you want to bulk on it.

The entire reason why you gte hungry is because ghrelin triggers hgh release, this is now not possible because gh is supressed, ghrelin is useless here if it cant go through with its main mechanism

you showed you were a retard in the first sentence. reading the rest and responding would just be a waste of time, especially for someone this arrogant who wouldnt change their opinion. no reason to continue what you think is a debate with a bottom of the barrel member of society like this. thanks for taking the time to give what you think was good advice, tho. even though youre a retard.

 

[Cocaethylene]

17M, bones are 15 (xrayed) here's my 16 week bulking cycle:

Injectables:
Test Cyp 500-600mgs weekly
Tren Acetate 250-350mgs weekly (raised after week 8)
Hgh 12ius split morning and night (hgh year round)
20 units glow70 reconned with 3ml bac water daily
250-500mcg ghrp-2 daily

Orals:
40-80mgs telmisartan daily (80mgs when bp rises)
5-10mgs Cialis daily (10mgs when bp rises)
5-10mgs nebivolol (10mgs when bp rises)
.25-.375mgs prami
.25mgs dutasteride twice a week (to bbc mog)
12.5mgs aromasin every 2 days
1800mgs berberine (split daily through meals)
1500mgs metformin (same as above)
Daily electrolytes (too extensive to list)

Will cruise 200mgs cyp after 16 weeks
All advice (not from virtue signaling retards) welcomed

Unnecessary for your age

 

[MUSTYCOPER]

The point of reta here isnt to supress your appetite. Its to prevent insulin reisstance from hgh

A ghrp increases apetite by increasing gh which makes you hungrier, its unable to do this when you already have hgh which makes it unable to make you hungrier, learn the mechanisms idiot

You have no idea if you will end up losing hair or not as likely nothing is even close to being comparable to these conditions. Even if you dont youve still allowed androgens to desecrate your hairfollicles leading to premature hairloss. An also bigger problem that youve somehow missed is the huge elastin loss from androgenicity by upregulation of mmp's. Tren also does the penile growth here and the dht isnt needed as tren is already super androgenic but its not useless like dht and also adds anabolism

You clearly have no idea what youre talking about. No a single thing i meantioned was for bp nor i do even know how you could interpret it that way unless your completely cluless. Rosuvastatin was to prevent tren from absolutely raping your lipids. Tren is horrible on the kidneys which is why i recommended aspirin, kidney damage is a bigger worry here than heart damage btw. Then mexidol is to protect your brain from tren since it ceoases the bbb so effectively and inhibits synaptogeneis and overstimulates your cns causing also intraneural oxadative stress making you an even bigger retard. Ru58841 and ss31 was to prevent premature ageing so that thhis stakc isnt a looksmin, ss31 to prevent mtor induced ageing and ru for androgenic photoageing

So if your goals is to be ugly and unhealthy then sure go ahead and skip them


No its the opposite, if it wasnt slin would make people smaller instead of way bigger. And we can clearly conclude that it doesnt. Litterally a google search away

Met stimulates ampk which lowers insulin which lowers igfbp's which makes igf1 in your body less able

Berberine also degrades proteins androgen receptors need making them unstable and that makes berberine an ar degrader which is really counteractive to roiding

You genuinely might be top 10 most clueless overconfident retards ive ever come accross here

dont ever waste your time again with retards please

 

[chot]

The entire reason why you gte hungry is because ghrelin triggers hgh release, this is now not possible because gh is supressed, ghrelin is useless here if it cant go through with its main mechanism

no its not, there are so many people running ghrp with gh who feel just as hungry. where did you even get this religious belief gh counters ghrp? they work together to signal even more hgh than just exogenous hgh alone. you look like a retarded cretin everytime you comment man, just stop. im feeling bad for you. also stop with the 4chan emojis, it makes you look even sadder, we both know you are typing your comments with the straightest face in the world. i have 8 posts on here and even i can tell you severely need to get off this site.

 

[hej1377]

dont ever waste your time again with retards please

Yeah bro im stopping with this, i havent got a cortisol spike yet but im gonna avoid it happening

 

[chot]

errrmmmm you didnt responddd to my point enjoy your cognitive dissonance cuck

 

[chot]

Yeah bro im stopping with this, i havent got a cortisol spike yet but im gonna avoid it happening

Hey cuck, my ghrp-2 arrived today, pinned 330mcg and felt it within an hour. I downed 2500 cals in one sitting. Still on 12ius gh daily. Don’t speak on what you don’t know. Moron. All those posts just to be this retarded

 

[chot]

Yeah bro im stopping with this, i havent got a cortisol spike yet but im gonna avoid it happening

hey cuck, ive been on 12ius hgh and 600-900mcg ghrp-2 daily for nearly 2 weeks. still get extremely hungry every single time i pin it. cant imagine how embarrassed you must be

 

[lars6]

17M, bones are 15 (xrayed) here's my 16 week bulking cycle:

Injectables:
Test Cyp 500-600mgs weekly
Tren Acetate 250-350mgs weekly (raised after week 8)
Hgh 12ius split morning and night (hgh year round)
20 units glow70 reconned with 3ml bac water daily
250-500mcg ghrp-2 daily

Orals:
40-80mgs telmisartan daily (80mgs when bp rises)
5-10mgs Cialis daily (10mgs when bp rises)
5-10mgs nebivolol (10mgs when bp rises)
.25-.375mgs prami
.25mgs dutasteride twice a week (to bbc mog)
12.5mgs aromasin every 2 days
1800mgs berberine (split daily through meals)
1500mgs metformin (same as above)
Daily electrolytes (too extensive to list)

Will cruise 200mgs cyp after 16 weeks
All advice (not from virtue signaling retards) welcomed

the ghrp at this point is just throwing water at a hot stone tbh
save your money
crazy stack regardless

 

[chot]

the ghrp at this point is just throwing water at a hot stone tbh
save your money
crazy stack regardless

stay retarded kid, cjc and ghrp are expensive enough. less competition

 

[lars6]

stay retarded kid, cjc and ghrp are expensive enough. less competition

less competition thats eating themselves to obesity in the name of a bulk? downing 2500 calories in one sitting for what? to mess with your gut and digestion?
i hope you're not doing this regularly lol

 

[chot]

Eating the most calories at once is healthy lmao have you ever heard of OMAD? Keeping your digestive system active the entire day reduces your lifespan and gut health, it also reduces the absorption of minerals and vitamins. You sound like a retard.

I have ab veins, I am far from being even close to obese. You can’t stay lean forever kid, you have to have cycles of bulking and cutting. I’m assuming you’re not too big and very skinny if you don’t think bulking is necessary.

 

[chot]

less competition thats eating themselves to obesity in the name of a bulk? downing 2500 calories in one sitting for what? to mess with your gut and digestion?
i hope you're not doing this regularly lol

forgot to reply
Eating the most calories at once is healthy lmao have you ever heard of OMAD? Keeping your digestive system active the entire day reduces your lifespan and gut health, it also reduces the absorption of minerals and vitamins. You sound like a retard.

I have ab veins, I am far from being even close to obese. You can’t stay lean forever kid, you have to have cycles of bulking and cutting. I’m assuming you’re not too big and very skinny if you don’t think bulking is necessary.

 

[lars6]

forgot to reply
Eating the most calories at once is healthy lmao have you ever heard of OMAD? Keeping your digestive system active the entire day reduces your lifespan and gut health, it also reduces the absorption of minerals and vitamins. You sound like a retard.

I have ab veins, I am far from being even close to obese. You can’t stay lean forever kid, you have to have cycles of bulking and cutting. I’m assuming you’re not too big and very skinny if you don’t think bulking is necessary.

so you eat once a day and you STILL need drugs to eat it
first you tell me this which is very suboptimal for getting big then you tell me what is necessary to get big
maximum health and maximum growth cant be there at the same time

i will be waiting on a physique reveal
left mine attached
just over 5f11, 93kg for reference

completely besides the point that i actually want to help and provide value but apparently no one on this platform thinks about the things being said and just gets defensive trying to justify anything even if it doesn't make any sense

 

[lars6]

so you eat once a day and you STILL need drugs to eat it
first you tell me this which is very suboptimal for getting big then you tell me what is necessary to get big
maximum health and maximum growth cant be there at the same time

i will be waiting on a physique reveal
left mine attached
just over 5f11, 93kg for reference

completely besides the point that i actually want to help and provide value but apparently no one on this platform thinks about the things being said and just gets defensive trying to justify anything even if it doesn't make any sense

and yes ofc bulking is necessary to an extent but tbh on this much roids you can grow just fine on maintenance even in a deficit you would grow
thats it for today
good night

 

[chot]

so you eat once a day and you STILL need drugs to eat it
first you tell me this which is very suboptimal for getting big then you tell me what is necessary to get big
maximum health and maximum growth cant be there at the same time

i will be waiting on a physique reveal
left mine attached
just over 5f11, 93kg for reference

completely besides the point that i actually want to help and provide value but apparently no one on this platform thinks about the things being said and just gets defensive trying to justify anything even if it doesn't make any sense

are you retarded? i never said i ate once a day. i eat 2-3 meals a day including maybe even a preworkout snack. its an objective fact digesting food 24/7 is unhealthy, esp if youre still digesting fiber with fats and foods with calcium, zinc, or iron. you will not absorb micros if you are still digesting fiber at the same time, you literally cannot argue with that, thats just how digestion works. you sound retarded if you deny that.

what value are you even providing by telling me not to bulk? what was even the point in commenting?

also it would be retarded to post my pic, i am 3 weeks into my first gear cycle, you (if that pic even is you) are probably years into roiding. its pretty irrelevant to the conversation in general and just shows you have no idea what you're talking about

 

[chot]

and yes ofc bulking is necessary to an extent but tbh on this much roids you can grow just fine on maintenance even in a deficit you would grow
thats it for today
good night

not everyone starts off as a fat fuck mate, different body types exist, you actually sound like you have a mental deficiency

 

[lars6]

not everyone starts off as a fat fuck mate, different body types exist, you actually sound like you have a mental deficiency

are you retarded? i never said i ate once a day. i eat 2-3 meals a day including maybe even a preworkout snack. its an objective fact digesting food 24/7 is unhealthy, esp if youre still digesting fiber with fats and foods with calcium, zinc, or iron. you will not absorb micros if you are still digesting fiber at the same time, you literally cannot argue with that, thats just how digestion works. you sound retarded if you deny that.

what value are you even providing by telling me not to bulk? what was even the point in commenting?

also it would be retarded to post my pic, i am 3 weeks into my first gear cycle, you (if that pic even is you) are probably years into roiding. its pretty irrelevant to the conversation in general and just shows you have no idea what you're talking about

that is your first cycle? holy shit man
and no i didnt start fat
the point of me commenting was telling you that with this much steroids you only need a tiny surplus and you should be able to eat this without needing to spike your ghrelin
but like do whatever you want your money your body

 

[chot]

that is your first cycle? holy shit man
and no i didnt start fat
the point of me commenting was telling you that with this much steroids you only need a tiny surplus and you should be able to eat this without needing to spike your ghrelin
but like do whatever you want your money your body

i dont give a fuck man if i want higher gh and ghrelin i will just take ghrp, im not force feeding myself everyday when i can just pin and smoke and eat as much as i want. im already up 17lbs in 3 weeks, its clearly working. i can also save hundreds a month over using straight hgh.

this is my cycle for the next few weeks, towards the end of the cycle i will add:
MENT enanthate 150mgs weekly
CJC no dac with my ghrp-2 for bigger gh pulses (moving down to 200mcg ghrp+100mcg cjcnd 2-3x daily), will raise to 3:1 ratio of ghrp and cjcnd if hunger from 200mcg is not big enough.
Switching to tren enanthate and upping to 500mgs weekly (100mg raise from tren ace dose accounting for ester weight)
Klow80 instead of glow70 for gut benefits
adding rosuvastin and clopid once on ment for lipids and clotting.

 

[Mazilias]

retard just take test you stupid nigga

 

[TrueOgreGymcel]

so you eat once a day and you STILL need drugs to eat it
first you tell me this which is very suboptimal for getting big then you tell me what is necessary to get big
maximum health and maximum growth cant be there at the same time

i will be waiting on a physique reveal
left mine attached
just over 5f11, 93kg for reference

completely besides the point that i actually want to help and provide value but apparently no one on this platform thinks about the things being said and just gets defensive trying to justify anything even if it doesn't make any sense

Now this is a steroid cycle done right. Freaky physique, none of that noobie gains bodies I'm used to seeing here that blast every compound under the sun. I'm curious about your cycle young man.

 

[chot]

Now this is a steroid cycle done right. Freaky physique, none of that noobie gains bodies I'm used to seeing here that blast every compound under the sun. I'm curious about your cycle young man.

This niggas gay asf

 

[lars6]

Now this is a steroid cycle done right. Freaky physique, none of that noobie gains bodies I'm used to seeing here that blast every compound under the sun. I'm curious about your cycle young man.

appreciate it bro! I used 500 test 400 boldenone and 150 npp with 8 iu of growth at peak cycle and sometimes 20mg var pre workout

 

[TrueOgreGymcel]

appreciate it bro! I used 500 test 400 boldenone and 150 npp with 8 iu of growth at peak cycle and sometimes 20mg var pre workout

I'm not surprised at all, that physique is quite astonishing. The ratio arms/forearms is great, great vascularity with EQ too.

 

[biglaith]