Rate, ogre curve starting to come 🤞

[sub5gymcel]

Also need hair help it’s crazy ass thin

 

[pheenon]

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Also need hair help it’s crazy ass thin

LHTN

 

[sub5gymcel]

Bump

 

[mohito]

Hmtn
Failos: low pfl, low fwhr, low mouth/nose
Strengths: midface ratio, lip ratio, lower third height

 

[Dankforce1]

Hmtn
Failos: low pfl, low fwhr, low mouth/nose
Strengths: midface ratio, lip ratio, lower third height

I'm surprised you noticed all those but not the fact that he's clearly balding

 

[Dankforce1]

Get on fin or dut OP, you're already almost NW3

 

[Artier]

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Also need hair help it’s crazy ass thin and I’m gay

Lhtn what are you doing on here nigga

 

[mohito]

I'm surprised you noticed all those but not the fact that he's clearly balding

Ratings should be based on frontal proportions. Other factors play a role too, but not enough to change the rating

 

[Dankforce1]

Ratings should be based on frontal proportions. Other factors play a role too, but not enough to change the rating

Ratings need to take into account everything imo, and a good hairline frames the upper third properly

Plenty of examples of massive descensions from badling. Balding can literally turn a HTN into a sub human, especially if you're young (teens and twenties). It completely changes the way people perceive you

 

[mohito]

Ratings need to take into account everything imo, and a good hairline frames the upper third properly

Plenty of examples of massive descensions from badling. Balding can literally turn a HTN into a sub human, especially if you're young (teens and twenties). It completely changes the way people perceive you

It definitely has an effect on overall appeal and is also a major youth indicator

 

[Dankforce1]

It definitely has an effect on overall appeal and is also a major youth indicator

Yeah we're on the same page, and good point. Off topic, but when you're older (i.e. around my age, mid twenties) hair becomes even more important / potential halo, as most guys are way too retarded or high inhib to take fin or dut in time to save their hairline. A good chunk of my friends are way too far gone to save their 'hair' without a transplant at this point while I've coasted on dut for years.

 

[iblamemygenes]

Yeah we're on the same page, and good point. Off topic, but when you're older (i.e. around my age, mid twenties) hair becomes even more important / potential halo, as most guys are way too retarded or high inhib to take fin or dut in time to save their hairline. A good chunk of my friends are way too far gone to save their 'hair' without a transplant at this point while I've coasted on dut for years.

Avodart or generic and what dose

 

[Deleted member 300509]

Scientifically rating facial attractiveness (out of 10) draws from research on traits like symmetry, averageness, sexual dimorphism (masculine features for men), skin quality, facial ratios (e.g., midface compactness, FWHR around 1.9–2.0 ideal), and eye area (positive/neutral canthal tilt, hunter-like shape preferred).


Pros: Solid overall harmony and averageness—your face looks balanced with no major asymmetries visible; good skin clarity and even tone; youthful/neotenous features (soft jaw transition, full lips, clear eyes) that score well in studies for approachability and health signaling; neutral-to-slightly-positive canthal tilt and decent eye shape give a sharp, intense look without excess scleral show; compact midface impression and reasonable FWHR contribute to masculine dimorphism without over-rounding.


Cons: Slightly recessed or less projected chin/jawline reduces perceived dominance and strength cues (studies link stronger mandible to higher male attractiveness ratings); hairline and forehead appear a bit high/less ideal in proportion; minor undereye darkness or flatness in some angles could detract from eye pop; overall angularity is average rather than chiseled, which limits peak hunter/prey eye contrast.


On a scientific 1-10 scale (averaging cross-cultural preferences for symmetry/health/masculinity), I'd rate you a solid 6.5–7/10—well above average (normie to high-normie tier), attractive to most people, with room to push higher via leaner body fat for better angularity or minor softmaxxes like hairstyle tweaks. Good base, keep grinding.

 

[Dankforce1]

Avodart or generic and what dose

Generic dut, 1mg daily. Started with several months of fin to test for side effects because I was so scared of the non-existent side effects.

I used some basic online doc because most dermatologists are beyond retarded, and I wasn't going to debate with them. I got a generic prescription online in like 30 minutes, picked it up later the next day at my local pharmacy. Cost me like 30 dollars total and completely saved my hairline, one of the best decisions I've ever made.

 

[NaturalBornKiller]

MHTN+hair color slays

 

[Dankforce1]

Scientifically rating facial attractiveness (out of 10) draws from research on traits like symmetry, averageness, sexual dimorphism (masculine features for men), skin quality, facial ratios (e.g., midface compactness, FWHR around 1.9–2.0 ideal), and eye area (positive/neutral canthal tilt, hunter-like shape preferred).


Pros: Solid overall harmony and averageness—your face looks balanced with no major asymmetries visible; good skin clarity and even tone; youthful/neotenous features (soft jaw transition, full lips, clear eyes) that score well in studies for approachability and health signaling; neutral-to-slightly-positive canthal tilt and decent eye shape give a sharp, intense look without excess scleral show; compact midface impression and reasonable FWHR contribute to masculine dimorphism without over-rounding.


Cons: Slightly recessed or less projected chin/jawline reduces perceived dominance and strength cues (studies link stronger mandible to higher male attractiveness ratings); hairline and forehead appear a bit high/less ideal in proportion; minor undereye darkness or flatness in some angles could detract from eye pop; overall angularity is average rather than chiseled, which limits peak hunter/prey eye contrast.


On a scientific 1-10 scale (averaging cross-cultural preferences for symmetry/health/masculinity), I'd rate you a solid 6.5–7/10—well above average (normie to high-normie tier), attractive to most people, with room to push higher via leaner body fat for better angularity or minor softmaxxes like hairstyle tweaks. Good base, keep grinding.

Thanks ChatGPT

 

[Deleted member 300509]

Thanks ChatGPT

CHATGPT IS THE FUTURE

 

[Dankforce1]

CHATGPT IS THE FUTURE

I've literally been using it to plan my bimax, lmfao

 

[Deleted member 300509]

I've literally been using it to plan my bimax, lmfao

good, give me some reps while you're at it

 

[thugmaxx]

Scientifically rating facial attractiveness (out of 10) draws from research on traits like symmetry, averageness, sexual dimorphism (masculine features for men), skin quality, facial ratios (e.g., midface compactness, FWHR around 1.9–2.0 ideal), and eye area (positive/neutral canthal tilt, hunter-like shape preferred).


Pros: Solid overall harmony and averageness—your face looks balanced with no major asymmetries visible; good skin clarity and even tone; youthful/neotenous features (soft jaw transition, full lips, clear eyes) that score well in studies for approachability and health signaling; neutral-to-slightly-positive canthal tilt and decent eye shape give a sharp, intense look without excess scleral show; compact midface impression and reasonable FWHR contribute to masculine dimorphism without over-rounding.


Cons: Slightly recessed or less projected chin/jawline reduces perceived dominance and strength cues (studies link stronger mandible to higher male attractiveness ratings); hairline and forehead appear a bit high/less ideal in proportion; minor undereye darkness or flatness in some angles could detract from eye pop; overall angularity is average rather than chiseled, which limits peak hunter/prey eye contrast.


On a scientific 1-10 scale (averaging cross-cultural preferences for symmetry/health/masculinity), I'd rate you a solid 6.5–7/10—well above average (normie to high-normie tier), attractive to most people, with room to push higher via leaner body fat for better angularity or minor softmaxxes like hairstyle tweaks. Good base, keep grinding.

chat gpt

 

[thugmaxx]

Solid lhtn-htn

 

[Deleted member 300509]

chat gpt

chatgpt is the future

 

[jewmaxing69]

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Also need hair help it’s crazy ass thin

maxilla is nerfing you

 

[sub5gymcel]

Generic dut, 1mg daily. Started with several months of fin to test for side effects because I was so scared of the non-existent side effects.

I used some basic online doc because most dermatologists are beyond retarded, and I wasn't going to debate with them. I got a generic prescription online in like 30 minutes, picked it up later the next day at my local pharmacy. Cost me like 30 dollars total and completely saved my hairline, one of the best decisions I've ever made.

Did it truly grow your hairline? I naturally have a large forehead and have tried topical minox/fin which I assume are cope with little to no effects. But I’ll get my hands on oral shit soon, but I have a feeling hair surgery might be a path down the road

 

[ascendtocl122]

fix your haircut and get out of here dude

 

[sub5gymcel]

MHTN+hair color slays

Hmm, I think lighting might be a factor but I think it’s needs to be darker atm

 

[sub5gymcel]

fix your haircut and get out of here dude

Is it really the haircut or just the sides from balding that you are noticing?

 

[NaturalBornKiller]

I can’t really see a reason for darker hair color. Blonde suits the haircut atm.

 

[Dankforce1]

Did it truly grow your hairline? I naturally have a large forehead and have tried topical minox/fin which I assume are cope with little to no effects. But I’ll get my hands on oral shit soon, but I have a feeling hair surgery might be a path down the road

Yes, it essentially did - but only because I caught it early, when hairs were still miniaturizing, rather than when they were fully gone. It did not really 'regrow' my hairline, it just allowed the weak and dying hair follicles to regrow because my scalp wasn't getting raped by DHT anymore.

I think topical fin is cope - just go to an online doc and get a prescription for the oral, especially if you are fully done growing.

Topical minoxidl, and oral minox, however, is certainly not cope. There is a strong genetic component as to whether or not someone responds well (i.e. regrows their hair) - but even then there is tons of evidence showing that adding microneedling can turn a non-responder into a hyper responder.

Minox functions differently in that it is a topic steroid. It promotes weak hair to grow, but it does not stop you from losing hair. Only finasteride and dutasteride are capable of that.

Do not be afraid of the sides, despite what retarded redditors say. If you do get sides (super rare), you just stop taking it. Consider that if you want to have a hair transplant in the future, any competent clinic is going to have you on some kind of DHT inhibitor anyways, whether that's fin or dut.

 

[nezobot]

hmtn

 

[sub5gymcel]

Yes, it essentially did - but only because I caught it early, when hairs were still miniaturizing, rather than when they were fully gone. It did not really 'regrow' my hairline, it just allowed the weak and dying hair follicles to regrow because my scalp wasn't getting raped by DHT anymore.

I think topical fin is cope - just go to an online doc and get a prescription for the oral, especially if you are fully done growing.

Topical minoxidl, and oral minox, however, is certainly not cope. There is a strong genetic component as to whether or not someone responds well (i.e. regrows their hair) - but even then there is tons of evidence showing that adding microneedling can turn a non-responder into a hyper responder.

Minox functions differently in that it is a topic steroid. It promotes weak hair to grow, but it does not stop you from losing hair. Only finasteride and dutasteride are capable of that.

Do not be afraid of the sides, despite what retarded redditors say. If you do get sides (super rare), you just stop taking it. Consider that if you want to have a hair transplant in the future, any competent clinic is going to have you on some kind of DHT inhibitor anyways, whether that's fin or dut.

Do online clinics work if ur under 18?

 

[sub5gymcel]

If not I might just get some India mart stuff

 

[Dankforce1]

Do online clinics work if ur under 18?

I don't think so, and honestly, you are much younger than I thought.

I couldn't in good conscious recommend you start DHT blockers if you're under 18. What I did was religiously apply minox, to help save what was there, and then hopped on fin and later dut when I was around 19-20.

Given my understanding, you would definitely want to check if your growth plates are fully closed before getting on it, because it can affect how tall you grow and other growth if you take it too early. One of the few situations where you could go for a derm consult - but don't be bluepilled and beat around the bush. Tell them you know you're balding, and you're interested in DHT inhibitors, and educate yourself so that they take you seriously.

 

[sub5gymcel]

I don't think so, and honestly, you are much younger than I thought.

I couldn't in good conscious recommend you start DHT blockers if you're under 18. What I did was religiously apply minox, to help save what was there, and then hopped on fin and later dut when I was around 19-20.

Given my understanding, you would definitely want to check if your growth plates are fully closed before getting on it, because it can affect how tall you grow and other growth if you take it too early. One of the few situations where you could go for a derm consult - but don't be bluepilled and beat around the bush. Tell them you know you're balding, and you're interested in DHT inhibitors, and educate yourself so that they take you seriously.

Yeah I’ve known a decent amount on dht nukers and and thinking about the trade offs, I think I still have some masculinization of the face left but I’m 6’3 so that’s not a problem. So the plan might be oral minox soon and then oral fin (I believe is less harsh than others) at 19 ish. I’ll consult my derm that gave me acutane but I believe they only do skin. To be honest it likely won’t give me a crazy better hairline but worth a shot since it’s my biggest falio imo

 

[Dankforce1]

Yeah I’ve known a decent amount on dht nukers and and thinking about the trade offs, I think I still have some masculinization of the face left but I’m 6’3 so that’s not a problem. So the plan might be oral minox soon and then oral fin (I believe is less harsh than others) at 19 ish. I’ll consult my derm that gave me acutane but I believe they only do skin. To be honest it likely won’t give me a crazy better hairline but worth a shot since it’s my biggest falio imo

If you're already 6'3 and have a face like that, you should honestly research the risk profile for taking it young, and asses. It might be worth risking it tbh.

For me personally, thinking back, I actually would've benefitted from taking it sooner, not even just because I would've had more hair, but mainly because it was so incredibly mentally draining to watch my hairline slowly die. If I had known that I was already done growing at 17/18, and wasn't super high inhib, I probably would've taken it, and if I could go back in time, I probably would.

I don't mean to alarm you but if you're already nearing NW3 and not even 18, you have aggressive hair loss like I did. My twin ended up needing a hair transplant in our EARLY twenties because he started DHT blockers a little while after I did and his was more aggressive.

Try to find a blackpilled derm (higher chance of finding them in rich areas) who will asses and potentially write for fin or dut.

Starting fin/dut was one of my best decisions, and the main reason I didn't start earlier was because I wanted to ensure I grew to my maximum height, since I'm only 5'9

 

[sub5gymcel]

If you're already 6'3 and have a face like that, you should honestly research the risk profile for taking it young, and asses. It might be worth risking it tbh.

For me personally, thinking back, I actually would've benefitted from taking it sooner, not even just because I would've had more hair, but mainly because it was so incredibly mentally draining to watch my hairline slowly die. If I had known that I was already done growing at 17/18, and wasn't super high inhib, I probably would've taken it, and if I could go back in time, I probably would.

I don't mean to alarm you but if you're already nearing NW3 and not even 18, you have aggressive hair loss like I did. My twin ended up needing a hair transplant in our EARLY twenties because he started DHT blockers a little while after I did and his was more aggressive.

Try to find a blackpilled derm (higher chance of finding them in rich areas) who will asses and potentially write for fin or dut.

Starting fin/dut was one of my best decisions, and the main reason I didn't start earlier was because I wanted to ensure I grew to my maximum height, since I'm only 5'9

Thanks for the info brother I’ll start grinding this path also can you rep me im tryna get that up a lil

 

[iblamemygenes]

Generic dut, 1mg daily. Started with several months of fin to test for side effects because I was so scared of the non-existent side effects.

I used some basic online doc because most dermatologists are beyond retarded, and I wasn't going to debate with them. I got a generic prescription online in like 30 minutes, picked it up later the next day at my local pharmacy. Cost me like 30 dollars total and completely saved my hairline, one of the best decisions I've ever made.

Im losing ground on 0.5 mg dut generic