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Elliot was decent
Yes, if he had gymmaxxed and if he had gotten a longer hairstyle, he could have gotten some decent success since he already had the jawline.

The problem with a lot of guys is not that they lack the potential to look great but that they need to put in some work to reach that potential while others already have the look after they reach the age of 18 or 20. That is because everyone has a different starting point due to genetics, but 2 people who have a different starting points will have a genetic potential that is very similar and that is what most people don't realize.

Many looksmax users will look at someone's strengths and claim that this is their frame, and that someone who lacks those strengths is never going to look like that but that is actually false. Even if you have no muscle mass, if you train hard for long enough, you can achieve a very similar look. Genetics only matter at the start, not at the end, unless we are comparing a short guy with a tall guy.
 
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Only his lips and his nose were bad. If he had gotten a rhinoplasty and lip fillers, he would have looked way better. He wasn't good looking but he wasn't so ugly that it was over, some people don't have features like that to improve and are stuck at a very low looks level but not him.
 
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