rate pls, 17 and 181cm

[rioond]

any tips would help

 

[rioond]

bump

 

[Rodrigoooo818372]

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lltn, your only hope to get to htn is surgery, but if you cant get surgery you need mainly ccw rotation because ur ramus is short and your chin is kinda recessed, you can achieve that by hard chewing with premolars and having high hormones so you need to blast androgens to gain some bonemass and move your bones a bit with mechanical stress while blasting, after that u need a rhino, if you max out everything maybe its not needed but it will do wonders, also get MARPE and BAMP while blasting androgens so you get a more prejected and wider maxilla, it will maybe help with the nose a bit, your infras are recessed asfuck but that normal nowdays, marpe will help a little bit and bamp wil help it a lot, if you do that and use some kinda of retinoin on your eyebags slowly they will look much better, because the eyebags and a sensible area try tretinoin 0.025 every day 1 time at night and if you get irritation put A LOT of biafine, if you do all this youll get to hmtn

 

[john_maxy]

I get your not asking for advice but shave that fuckass mustache right now your philtrum isnt even that bad what are we doing. wait nvm i just read you are asking for advice im a dumbass. The move right now is lean out your a little chubby, do some BS, and then idk bro just pin something. You also might want longer hair judging by the front profile your ears are pretty large.

 

[rioond]

I get your not asking for advice but shave that fuckass mustache right now your philtrum isnt even that bad what are we doing. wait nvm i just read you are asking for advice im a dumbass. The move right now is lean out your a little chubby, do some BS, and then idk bro just pin something. You also might want longer hair judging by the front profile your ears are pretty large.

yea i already shaved the mustache wasnt the move but im still trying to figure out my hair its pin straight as fuck so im debating whether i should get a perm or idk. the first pic i had texture powder in and second one was right out the shower so might grow a side part

 

[rioond]

lltn, your only hope to get to htn is surgery, but if you cant get surgery you need mainly ccw rotation because ur ramus is short and your chin is kinda recessed, you can achieve that by hard chewing with premolars and having high hormones so you need to blast androgens to gain some bonemass and move your bones a bit with mechanical stress while blasting, after that u need a rhino, if you max out everything maybe its not needed but it will do wonders, also get MARPE and BAMP while blasting androgens so you get a more prejected and wider maxilla, it will maybe help with the nose a bit, your infras are recessed asfuck but that normal nowdays, marpe will help a little bit and bamp wil help it a lot, if you do that and use some kinda of retinoin on your eyebags slowly they will look much better, because the eyebags and a sensible area try tretinoin 0.025 every day 1 time at night and if you get irritation put A LOT of biafine, if you do all this youll get to hmtn

i just got out of braces how do i get a marpe or a bamp. also where do i get the retinoin, tret and biafine thanks for the advice i appreciate

 

[Rodrigoooo818372]

i just got out of braces how do i get a marpe or a bamp. also where do i get the retinoin, tret and biafine thanks for the advice i appreciate

u need to go to your dentist and ask for marpe and bamp, say that you want marpe for better breathing and say some bs on how your bresthing isnt that good, because marpe expands the airways and ask for bump and dont try to explain, if she asks you say that your maxilla is very flat and thats the only proceedure that works at that age, its very expensive tho, your looking at around 7k for bamp+marpe+braces again because marpe splits ur teeth, its worth it tho, and if the dentist says that u have a cooked airways and maxilla problems insurance will pay up to 80% of the treatment, you just gotta convince ger you need ut and convince that it isnt mainly for looks, tretinoin biafine and other topicals you might need you can go on india mart and buy for cheap asfuck, the shipping is usually more expensive than the producs but find a well known supllier and buy bulk, buy like 2 0.025 tubes and 10 0.05 tubes, they cost like 2-3$ each and biafine you can get in a pharmacy if its avaiable on your country, for the androgens you might need a better source that indiamart, i cant help you with that because fortunatly im not boneless and im 15 so i can achieve results naturally, but i bet there hundreds fo sources u can find on this forum