Jason Voorhees
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Ramos>8.5/10 but ruben Dias is better
Malidini and Ramos are in my top 5 greatest defenders of all time.8.5/10 but ruben Dias is better
I think they are pretty equal tbh.Ramos>
I just play soccer for fun ngl, idk anything about the players im a casual@TheTakeoverHasBegun @sportsmogger who are your top 5 defenders of all time
FairI think they are pretty equal tbh.
Maldini was known for his positioning, and longevity at AC Milan. Ramos, on the other hand, is renowned for his physicality, and leadership. You can't compare them both.
Beckenbauer, van dyke, baresi, maldini, ramos@TheTakeoverHasBegun @sportsmogger who are your top 5 defenders of all time
Vvd (best ever)@TheTakeoverHasBegun @sportsmogger who are your top 5 defenders of all time
VVD? Nigga tweakin jfl , gotta be a Hollandcell. For sure Maldini, Ramos and Beckenbauer. After them Nesta and Puyol imo.Vvd (best ever)
Maldini
Nesta
Beckenbauer
Baresi
Explain how those guys are better defenders than Vvd without mentioning awards and trophiesVVD? Nigga tweakin jfl , gotta be a Hollandcell. For sure Maldini, Ramos and Beckenbauer. After them Nesta and Puyol imo.
Worldclass is playing at a Top 5 Level for more than 2 or 3 years. VvD was undoubtedly the best cb within 2019 till 2021, but as Iam saying, it didnt last long. Players like Puyol, Maldini, Ramos etc. played at this level for a decade.Explain how those guys are better defenders than Vvd without mentioning awards and trophies
Van dijk had a higher peak than any of themWorldclass is playing at a Top 5 Level for more than 2 or 3 years. VvD was undoubtedly the best cb within 2019 till 2021, but as Iam saying, it didnt last long. Players like Puyol, Maldini, Ramos etc. played at this level for a decade.
can you really say this? Have you watched likes of Beckenbauer, Maldini and Puyol? I havent really. Also like I mentioned its about consistency, not only peak performance, otherwise we'd call R9 or Adriano our Goats.Van dijk had a higher peak than any of them
Which he's done for his entire career?Worldclass is playing at a Top 5 Level for more than 2 or 3 years.
He's still undoubtedly the bestVvD was undoubtedly the best cb within 2019 till 2021, but as Iam saying, it didnt last long
So has vvdPlayers like Puyol, Maldini, Ramos etc. played at this level for a decade.
Van dijk had a higher peak than any of them
Vvd is better than these guys at everything, mancan you really say this? Have you watched likes of Beckenbauer, Maldini and Puyol? I havent really.
Ive watched puyol, and a bit of maldini, nobody here has watched beckenbauer. He was certainly better than puyol, and any other cb ive watched. And his impact on liverpool was immense, never seen a cb make such a differencecan you really say this? Have you watched likes of Beckenbauer, Maldini and Puyol? I havent really. Also like I mentioned its about consistency, not only peak performance, otherwise we'd call R9 or Adriano our Goats.
This is whole lotta cope. ManU broke their transfer fee for likes of Maguire so you see there is no argument. I can do nothing but repeat my arguments - VVD was the best cb for about three years, but since the injury his performance is not the same as it was before. Maldini, Ramos etc. were consistent in their performance for a decade which is harder to archive. Otherwise one or two season wonders would be considered as worldclass.Which he's done for his entire career?
Why do you think Liverpool broke the transfer fee in to get him?
Vvd has always been that guy
He's still undoubtedly the best
It's just that before the injury he was 5x better than the next best defender
Now it's more like 2x
So has vvd
Last year was his only not world class season since he first started playing professionally
United and their obsession with grossly overpaying for players vs Liverpool being the opposite of that?ManU broke their transfer fee for likes of Maguire so you see there is no argument
Just because he isn't the same defender doesn't mean he still isn't the best in the worldVVD was the best cb for about three years, but since the injury his performance is not the same as it was before
Again so has vvdMaldini, Ramos etc. were consistent in their performance for a decade which is harder to archive.
United and their obsession with grossly overpaying for players vs Liverpool being the opposite of that?
Liverpool breaking the fee for vvd is a good example of how world class he was even before Liverpool
So yeah, there is no argument
Just because he isn't the same defender doesn't mean he still isn't the best in the world
You have a hard time grasping this
Again so has vvd
And Ramos doesn't belong in these discussions
He was flawed as hell defensively
Pique was literally better defensively than him, he just wasn't the offensive threat, big game player and leader Ramos is
Ramos is more of a great player than he is great defensively
vvd def has the best prime but he isnt the best oatVVD? Nigga tweakin jfl , gotta be a Hollandcell. For sure Maldini, Ramos and Beckenbauer. After them Nesta and Puyol imo.