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*Info*

19.1 5,10 (morning height)

Came up with this stack from the past 3-4 days of insight from various sources (no prior knowledge or interest).

90% certain growth plates are fused (other than my spine which I plan on targeting) since I have remained at the same height since 16.

Both parents are around 5,7 - 5,8 so I can only assume I have somewhat surpassed genetic cap since I was properly nourished and was active during puberty (mainly swimming but also soccer and basketball at a younger age).

I plan on only doing a few cycles before evaluating if its worth continuing.

Feel free to comment on any changes you believe I can make to better synergize the stack.

Keep in mind this is my first time using peps much less creating a stack that I have no proper judgment on from inadequate research.

I have no predetermined expectations with using this stack I am rather looking at it from an experimental standpoint in which it might A) Do nothing or B) Provide minimal - decent positive feedback.

Lastly dosages will not be listed as it is still a work in progress.


*Stack*

Peptides
CJC-1295 No DAC (Mod GRF (1-29))
Ipamorelin
DSIP Blend Spray (GABA + Melatonin + DSIP)
Follistatin 344 (Skeptical of purity/potency since limited sources and generally hard to come by pure grade).

Peptides I will consider incorporating later if need be
BPC-157 & TB-500

Minerals and Vitamins

Lactoferrin
MSM
Huperzine A
Nitric Oxide Blend (L-arginine + L-Citrulline)
Slin pills (Lipoic Acid + Piperine + Berberine)
K2 + D3
Zinc
Magnesium
Boron

Minerals/Vitamins I may add later
KSM-66 Ashwagandha
Shilajit
Creatine
Fish oil
Bee pollen
Ginger
Beta carotene
Choccy milk


*Exercise*

HIIT: 2-4x a week (Gym)
Stretching/Decompressing: daily
Posturemaxxing: daily (since im cooked from siege)
Massai jumps for microfractures (cope)
Sprinting intervals (HGH release theory)


*Diet*

Wont go into too much detail but will be on a Protein Surplus diet as it is necessary to insure proper translation of the stimulated HGH to IGF-1 otherwise your body will excrete it and it will end up a waste.

*Conclusion*

As stated prior this is all a result of minimal research and an urge to act before my fate is permanently sealed, that being said I am open to feedback as it helps me further understand what I stand to gain/lose. I feel as though my height is a middle ground both literally and in the sense that I am not totally dissatisfied nor contempt with it. Furthermore I am fully aware that this stack is no where near what some of you guys run/recommend running, I don't have the money or interest in blasting pharma straight to the gills, thereby causing self conflicting views on if this stack is even significant enough (even at higher dosages and consistent cycles) to have real positive effects. Nonetheless let me know what you guys think.
 
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5'10 is fine already imo what is your face like?
 
5'10 is fine already imo what is your face like?
high mtn - low htn if fully debloated and regular gym among other factors but ive since quit to focus on college this is all part of starting to go get back in the groove.
 
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*Info*

19.1 5,10 (morning height)

Came up with this stack from the past 3-4 days of insight from various sources (no prior knowledge or interest).

90% certain growth plates are fused (other than my spine which I plan on targeting) since I have remained at the same height since 16.

Both parents are around 5,7 - 5,8 so I can only assume I have somewhat surpassed genetic cap since I was properly nourished and was active during puberty (mainly swimming but also soccer and basketball at a younger age).

I plan on only doing a few cycles before evaluating if its worth continuing.

Feel free to comment on any changes you believe I can make to better synergize the stack.

Keep in mind this is my first time using peps much less creating a stack that I have no proper judgment on from inadequate research.

I have no predetermined expectations with using this stack I am rather looking at it from an experimental standpoint in which it might A) Do nothing or B) Provide minimal - decent positive feedback.

Lastly dosages will not be listed as it is still a work in progress.


*Stack*

Peptides
CJC-1295 No DAC (Mod GRF (1-29))
Ipamorelin
DSIP Blend Spray (GABA + Melatonin + DSIP)
Follistatin 344 (Skeptical of purity/potency since limited sources and generally hard to come by pure grade).

Peptides I will consider incorporating later if need be
BPC-157 & TB-500

Minerals and Vitamins

Lactoferrin
MSM
Huperzine A
Nitric Oxide Blend (L-arginine + L-Citrulline)
Slin pills (Lipoic Acid + Piperine + Berberine)
K2 + D3
Zinc
Magnesium
Boron

Minerals/Vitamins I may add later
KSM-66 Ashwagandha
Shilajit
Creatine
Fish oil
Bee pollen
Ginger
Beta carotene
Choccy milk


*Exercise*

HIIT: 2-4x a week (Gym)
Stretching/Decompressing: daily
Posturemaxxing: daily (since im cooked from siege)
Massai jumps for microfractures (cope)
Sprinting intervals (HGH release theory)


*Diet*

Wont go into too much detail but will be on a Protein Surplus diet as it is necessary to insure proper translation of the stimulated HGH to IGF-1 otherwise your body will excrete it and it will end up a waste.

*Conclusion*

As stated prior this is all a result of minimal research and an urge to act before my fate is permanently sealed, that being said I am open to feedback as it helps me further understand what I stand to gain/lose. I feel as though my height is a middle ground both literally and in the sense that I am not totally dissatisfied nor contempt with it. Furthermore I am fully aware that this stack is no where near what some of you guys run/recommend running, I don't have the money or interest in blasting pharma straight to the gills, thereby causing self conflicting views on if this stack is even significant enough (even at higher dosages and consistent cycles) to have real positive effects. Nonetheless let me know what you guys think.
if you just used phermonia it would be enough for bone mass
 
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high mtn - low htn if fully debloated and regular gym among other factors but ive since quit to focus on college this is all part of starting to go get back in the groove.
5'10 and above avg why don't u just enjoy if u are nt you will face a lot of health problems from this stack imo just don't do the peptides
 
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5'10 and above avg why don't u just enjoy if u are nt you will face a lot of health problems from this stack imo just don't do the peptides
this is how I thought up until now but at some point curiosity kills the cat. Could you elaborate on health concerns from these specific peptides? I purposely chose Ipam since it doesn't increase cortisol or prolactin and I was looking into dosing CJC lower since I've read that it generally has more side effects than Ipam. Follistatin is the only one im still iffy on in regards to minimal testing and its primary purpose being muscle growth as opposed to bone.
 
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this is how I thought up until now but at some point curiosity kills the cat. Could you elaborate on health concerns from these specific peptides? I purposely chose Ipam since it doesn't increase cortisol or prolactin and I was looking into dosing CJC lower since I've read that it generally has more side effects than Ipam. Follistatin is the only one im still iffy on in regards to minimal testing and its primary purpose being muscle growth as opposed to bone.
peptides might be fine there hasn't been enough research, you don't wanna be the guy that faces health problems because of that especially when you are already above avg height

realistically peptides won't make u grow if you wanted to grow at this point you'd have to blast HGH even then i don't think you would see more than an inch
 
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peptides might be fine there hasn't been enough research, you don't wanna be the guy that faces health problems because of that especially when you are already above avg height

realistically peptides won't make u grow if you wanted to grow at this point you'd have to blast HGH even then i don't think you would see more than an inch
yeah that was water on my part, but part of why I looked into it was to simply see if I could increase facial bone mass/density I think that would greatly increase appeal to my archetype
 
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yeah that was water on my part, but part of why I looked into it was to simply see if I could increase facial bone mass/density I think that would greatly increase appeal to my archetype
hm possibly
 
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*Info*

19.1 5,10 (morning height)

Came up with this stack from the past 3-4 days of insight from various sources (no prior knowledge or interest).

90% certain growth plates are fused (other than my spine which I plan on targeting) since I have remained at the same height since 16.

Both parents are around 5,7 - 5,8 so I can only assume I have somewhat surpassed genetic cap since I was properly nourished and was active during puberty (mainly swimming but also soccer and basketball at a younger age).

I plan on only doing a few cycles before evaluating if its worth continuing.

Feel free to comment on any changes you believe I can make to better synergize the stack.

Keep in mind this is my first time using peps much less creating a stack that I have no proper judgment on from inadequate research.

I have no predetermined expectations with using this stack I am rather looking at it from an experimental standpoint in which it might A) Do nothing or B) Provide minimal - decent positive feedback.

Lastly dosages will not be listed as it is still a work in progress.


*Stack*

Peptides
CJC-1295 No DAC (Mod GRF (1-29))
Ipamorelin
DSIP Blend Spray (GABA + Melatonin + DSIP)
Follistatin 344 (Skeptical of purity/potency since limited sources and generally hard to come by pure grade).

Peptides I will consider incorporating later if need be
BPC-157 & TB-500

Minerals and Vitamins

Lactoferrin
MSM
Huperzine A
Nitric Oxide Blend (L-arginine + L-Citrulline)
Slin pills (Lipoic Acid + Piperine + Berberine)
K2 + D3
Zinc
Magnesium
Boron

Minerals/Vitamins I may add later
KSM-66 Ashwagandha
Shilajit
Creatine
Fish oil
Bee pollen
Ginger
Beta carotene
Choccy milk


*Exercise*

HIIT: 2-4x a week (Gym)
Stretching/Decompressing: daily
Posturemaxxing: daily (since im cooked from siege)
Massai jumps for microfractures (cope)
Sprinting intervals (HGH release theory)


*Diet*

Wont go into too much detail but will be on a Protein Surplus diet as it is necessary to insure proper translation of the stimulated HGH to IGF-1 otherwise your body will excrete it and it will end up a waste.

*Conclusion*

As stated prior this is all a result of minimal research and an urge to act before my fate is permanently sealed, that being said I am open to feedback as it helps me further understand what I stand to gain/lose. I feel as though my height is a middle ground both literally and in the sense that I am not totally dissatisfied nor contempt with it. Furthermore I am fully aware that this stack is no where near what some of you guys run/recommend running, I don't have the money or interest in blasting pharma straight to the gills, thereby causing self conflicting views on if this stack is even significant enough (even at higher dosages and consistent cycles) to have real positive effects. Nonetheless let me know what you guys think.
Remove the Slin pins those shit inhibits Mtor and igf-1
And Spam letrozole
But your already 19 its over bro of your licky you might grow another inch thats if your lucky
 
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*Info*

19.1 5,10 (morning height)

Came up with this stack from the past 3-4 days of insight from various sources (no prior knowledge or interest).

90% certain growth plates are fused (other than my spine which I plan on targeting) since I have remained at the same height since 16.

Both parents are around 5,7 - 5,8 so I can only assume I have somewhat surpassed genetic cap since I was properly nourished and was active during puberty (mainly swimming but also soccer and basketball at a younger age).

I plan on only doing a few cycles before evaluating if its worth continuing.

Feel free to comment on any changes you believe I can make to better synergize the stack.

Keep in mind this is my first time using peps much less creating a stack that I have no proper judgment on from inadequate research.

I have no predetermined expectations with using this stack I am rather looking at it from an experimental standpoint in which it might A) Do nothing or B) Provide minimal - decent positive feedback.

Lastly dosages will not be listed as it is still a work in progress.


*Stack*

Peptides
CJC-1295 No DAC (Mod GRF (1-29))
Ipamorelin
DSIP Blend Spray (GABA + Melatonin + DSIP)
Follistatin 344 (Skeptical of purity/potency since limited sources and generally hard to come by pure grade).

Peptides I will consider incorporating later if need be
BPC-157 & TB-500

Minerals and Vitamins

Lactoferrin
MSM
Huperzine A
Nitric Oxide Blend (L-arginine + L-Citrulline)
Slin pills (Lipoic Acid + Piperine + Berberine)
K2 + D3
Zinc
Magnesium
Boron

Minerals/Vitamins I may add later
KSM-66 Ashwagandha
Shilajit
Creatine
Fish oil
Bee pollen
Ginger
Beta carotene
Choccy milk


*Exercise*

HIIT: 2-4x a week (Gym)
Stretching/Decompressing: daily
Posturemaxxing: daily (since im cooked from siege)
Massai jumps for microfractures (cope)
Sprinting intervals (HGH release theory)


*Diet*

Wont go into too much detail but will be on a Protein Surplus diet as it is necessary to insure proper translation of the stimulated HGH to IGF-1 otherwise your body will excrete it and it will end up a waste.

*Conclusion*

As stated prior this is all a result of minimal research and an urge to act before my fate is permanently sealed, that being said I am open to feedback as it helps me further understand what I stand to gain/lose. I feel as though my height is a middle ground both literally and in the sense that I am not totally dissatisfied nor contempt with it. Furthermore I am fully aware that this stack is no where near what some of you guys run/recommend running, I don't have the money or interest in blasting pharma straight to the gills, thereby causing self conflicting views on if this stack is even significant enough (even at higher dosages and consistent cycles) to have real positive effects. Nonetheless let me know what you guys think.
My ideal stack :
2.5 mg letrozole
500 mcg ipam 3x per day
30 iu of lantus insulin in the morning
Super high protein diet like 300g per day
(Especially liver eat a lot of it literraly in some studies Vitamin A is shown to be better at height growth in guys who deficient than fucking hgh anavar it also has been compared to aromatize inhibitor in some studies where they megadosed it now preferably take the anaimal version from liver and not vegetables cause its liver toxic and downregulate your thyroid just take liver and call it a day)
10 hours of sleep
Also Spam deadhangs in the morning (it help Frauds by like 0.5 cm)

With all this you’ll probably get to 6ft
Then use lift bla bla bla to get to 6ft2
 
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Remove the Slin pins those shit inhibits Mtor and igf-1
And Spam letrozole
But your already 19 its over bro of your licky you might grow another inch thats if your lucky
not sure if theres a point left in using an AI but I already have aromasin is letro better?
 
not sure if theres a point left in using an AI but I already have aromasin is letro better?
You need to crush your estrogen boyos your literraly 19 if you were 15 then i would have used aromas
Also megadose melatonin and gaba when you start using letrozole
And add joint aid supplement like Msm chondroitin ect….
 
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My ideal stack :
2.5 mg letrozole
500 mcg ipam 3x per day
30 iu of lantus insulin in the morning
Super high protein diet like 300g per day
(Especially liver eat a lot of it literraly in some studies Vitamin A is shown to be better at height growth in guys who deficient than fucking hgh anavar it also has been compared to aromatize inhibitor in some studies where they megadosed it now preferably take the anaimal version from liver and not vegetables cause its liver toxic and downregulate your thyroid just take liver and call it a day)
10 hours of sleep
Also Spam deadhangs in the morning (it help Frauds by like 0.5 cm)

With all this you’ll probably get to 6ft
Then use lift bla bla bla to get to 6ft2
my college doesn't vary much in what they serve but im gonna try to get the protein regardless im fairly skinny so I dont think id need 300g as for the sleep ill be out with the DSIP
 
You need to crush your estrogen boyos your literraly 19 if you were 15 then i would have used aromas
Also megadose melatonin and gaba when you start using letrozole
And add joint aid supplement like Msm chondroitin ect….
ive accommodated most of that within the minerals already how long is the letzro cycle?
 
my college doesn't vary much in what they serve but im gonna try to get the protein regardless im fairly skinny so I dont think id need 300g as for the sleep ill be out with the DSIP
Nahh you need 300 if you wanna grow as fast as possible
 
ive accommodated most of that within the minerals already how long is the letzro cycle?
I don’t think you’ll need vitamin and mineral if your already eating lke 300g of protein boyos
Forever until you achieve 6ft never go off
 
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*Info*

19.1 5,10 (morning height)

Came up with this stack from the past 3-4 days of insight from various sources (no prior knowledge or interest).

90% certain growth plates are fused (other than my spine which I plan on targeting) since I have remained at the same height since 16.

Both parents are around 5,7 - 5,8 so I can only assume I have somewhat surpassed genetic cap since I was properly nourished and was active during puberty (mainly swimming but also soccer and basketball at a younger age).

I plan on only doing a few cycles before evaluating if its worth continuing.

Feel free to comment on any changes you believe I can make to better synergize the stack.

Keep in mind this is my first time using peps much less creating a stack that I have no proper judgment on from inadequate research.

I have no predetermined expectations with using this stack I am rather looking at it from an experimental standpoint in which it might A) Do nothing or B) Provide minimal - decent positive feedback.

Lastly dosages will not be listed as it is still a work in progress.


*Stack*

Peptides
CJC-1295 No DAC (Mod GRF (1-29))
Ipamorelin
DSIP Blend Spray (GABA + Melatonin + DSIP)
Follistatin 344 (Skeptical of purity/potency since limited sources and generally hard to come by pure grade).

Peptides I will consider incorporating later if need be
BPC-157 & TB-500

Minerals and Vitamins

Lactoferrin
MSM
Huperzine A
Nitric Oxide Blend (L-arginine + L-Citrulline)
Slin pills (Lipoic Acid + Piperine + Berberine)
K2 + D3
Zinc
Magnesium
Boron

Minerals/Vitamins I may add later
KSM-66 Ashwagandha
Shilajit
Creatine
Fish oil
Bee pollen
Ginger
Beta carotene
Choccy milk


*Exercise*

HIIT: 2-4x a week (Gym)
Stretching/Decompressing: daily
Posturemaxxing: daily (since im cooked from siege)
Massai jumps for microfractures (cope)
Sprinting intervals (HGH release theory)


*Diet*

Wont go into too much detail but will be on a Protein Surplus diet as it is necessary to insure proper translation of the stimulated HGH to IGF-1 otherwise your body will excrete it and it will end up a waste.

*Conclusion*

As stated prior this is all a result of minimal research and an urge to act before my fate is permanently sealed, that being said I am open to feedback as it helps me further understand what I stand to gain/lose. I feel as though my height is a middle ground both literally and in the sense that I am not totally dissatisfied nor contempt with it. Furthermore I am fully aware that this stack is no where near what some of you guys run/recommend running, I don't have the money or interest in blasting pharma straight to the gills, thereby causing self conflicting views on if this stack is even significant enough (even at higher dosages and consistent cycles) to have real positive effects. Nonetheless let me know what you guys think.
choccy milk :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
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First of all you probs won’t get much facial changes cuz of your age.You could get a lot of height from your spine as I read a thread yesterday on a guy get 2.5 inches in 3-4 months of just doing his spine stretches methods and stuff. Your results won’t be as much but the peptides would help a lot

In terms of your stack, the 2.5 mg letrozole and 500 mcg of both ipa and cjc etc that the guy above said sounds good. But you probs won’t get much growth unless your growth plates are open and if they’re not then spine growth is your only way.

If you want I’ll tag you in that spine growth anecdote thread.
 
Imagine not having test in your stack
 
First of all you probs won’t get much facial changes cuz of your age.You could get a lot of height from your spine as I read a thread yesterday on a guy get 2.5 inches in 3-4 months of just doing his spine stretches methods and stuff. Your results won’t be as much but the peptides would help a lot

In terms of your stack, the 2.5 mg letrozole and 500 mcg of both ipa and cjc etc that the guy above said sounds good. But you probs won’t get much growth unless your growth plates are open and if they’re not then spine growth is your only way.

If you want I’ll tag you in that spine growth anecdote thread.
already have that bookmarked and was planning to do all that once I am in cycle
 
*Info*

19.1 5,10 (morning height)

Came up with this stack from the past 3-4 days of insight from various sources (no prior knowledge or interest).

90% certain growth plates are fused (other than my spine which I plan on targeting) since I have remained at the same height since 16.

Both parents are around 5,7 - 5,8 so I can only assume I have somewhat surpassed genetic cap since I was properly nourished and was active during puberty (mainly swimming but also soccer and basketball at a younger age).

I plan on only doing a few cycles before evaluating if its worth continuing.

Feel free to comment on any changes you believe I can make to better synergize the stack.

Keep in mind this is my first time using peps much less creating a stack that I have no proper judgment on from inadequate research.

I have no predetermined expectations with using this stack I am rather looking at it from an experimental standpoint in which it might A) Do nothing or B) Provide minimal - decent positive feedback.

Lastly dosages will not be listed as it is still a work in progress.


*Stack*

Peptides
CJC-1295 No DAC (Mod GRF (1-29))
Ipamorelin
DSIP Blend Spray (GABA + Melatonin + DSIP)
Follistatin 344 (Skeptical of purity/potency since limited sources and generally hard to come by pure grade).

Peptides I will consider incorporating later if need be
BPC-157 & TB-500

Minerals and Vitamins

Lactoferrin
MSM
Huperzine A
Nitric Oxide Blend (L-arginine + L-Citrulline)
Slin pills (Lipoic Acid + Piperine + Berberine)
K2 + D3
Zinc
Magnesium
Boron

Minerals/Vitamins I may add later
KSM-66 Ashwagandha
Shilajit
Creatine
Fish oil
Bee pollen
Ginger
Beta carotene
Choccy milk


*Exercise*

HIIT: 2-4x a week (Gym)
Stretching/Decompressing: daily
Posturemaxxing: daily (since im cooked from siege)
Massai jumps for microfractures (cope)
Sprinting intervals (HGH release theory)


*Diet*

Wont go into too much detail but will be on a Protein Surplus diet as it is necessary to insure proper translation of the stimulated HGH to IGF-1 otherwise your body will excrete it and it will end up a waste.

*Conclusion*

As stated prior this is all a result of minimal research and an urge to act before my fate is permanently sealed, that being said I am open to feedback as it helps me further understand what I stand to gain/lose. I feel as though my height is a middle ground both literally and in the sense that I am not totally dissatisfied nor contempt with it. Furthermore I am fully aware that this stack is no where near what some of you guys run/recommend running, I don't have the money or interest in blasting pharma straight to the gills, thereby causing self conflicting views on if this stack is even significant enough (even at higher dosages and consistent cycles) to have real positive effects. Nonetheless let me know what you guys think.
Where do you buy these ?
 
youve been mislead. Only in extremely rare cases have people not been able to restore their natural test after proper pct
too many needles twin my attention span not built for allat
 
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*Info*

19.1 5,10 (morning height)

Came up with this stack from the past 3-4 days of insight from various sources (no prior knowledge or interest).

90% certain growth plates are fused (other than my spine which I plan on targeting) since I have remained at the same height since 16.

Both parents are around 5,7 - 5,8 so I can only assume I have somewhat surpassed genetic cap since I was properly nourished and was active during puberty (mainly swimming but also soccer and basketball at a younger age).

I plan on only doing a few cycles before evaluating if its worth continuing.

Feel free to comment on any changes you believe I can make to better synergize the stack.

Keep in mind this is my first time using peps much less creating a stack that I have no proper judgment on from inadequate research.

I have no predetermined expectations with using this stack I am rather looking at it from an experimental standpoint in which it might A) Do nothing or B) Provide minimal - decent positive feedback.

Lastly dosages will not be listed as it is still a work in progress.


*Stack*

Peptides
CJC-1295 No DAC (Mod GRF (1-29))
Ipamorelin
DSIP Blend Spray (GABA + Melatonin + DSIP)
Follistatin 344 (Skeptical of purity/potency since limited sources and generally hard to come by pure grade).

Peptides I will consider incorporating later if need be
BPC-157 & TB-500

Minerals and Vitamins

Lactoferrin
MSM
Huperzine A
Nitric Oxide Blend (L-arginine + L-Citrulline)
Slin pills (Lipoic Acid + Piperine + Berberine)
K2 + D3
Zinc
Magnesium
Boron

Minerals/Vitamins I may add later
KSM-66 Ashwagandha
Shilajit
Creatine
Fish oil
Bee pollen
Ginger
Beta carotene
Choccy milk


*Exercise*

HIIT: 2-4x a week (Gym)
Stretching/Decompressing: daily
Posturemaxxing: daily (since im cooked from siege)
Massai jumps for microfractures (cope)
Sprinting intervals (HGH release theory)


*Diet*

Wont go into too much detail but will be on a Protein Surplus diet as it is necessary to insure proper translation of the stimulated HGH to IGF-1 otherwise your body will excrete it and it will end up a waste.

*Conclusion*

As stated prior this is all a result of minimal research and an urge to act before my fate is permanently sealed, that being said I am open to feedback as it helps me further understand what I stand to gain/lose. I feel as though my height is a middle ground both literally and in the sense that I am not totally dissatisfied nor contempt with it. Furthermore I am fully aware that this stack is no where near what some of you guys run/recommend running, I don't have the money or interest in blasting pharma straight to the gills, thereby causing self conflicting views on if this stack is even significant enough (even at higher dosages and consistent cycles) to have real positive effects. Nonetheless let me know what you guys think.
U cannot surpass a genetic cap
 
U cannot surpass a genetic cap
who's to say i've reached the cap tho, I was already 5,8 - 5,9 at 14 and throughout all those years was rationally expecting to be at least 6+, to my demise I only reached 5,10 which made me question if my early onset puberty was caused by too much HGH/IGF-1 that ultimately crashed after puberty sealing my plates early in the process. Regardless I wasn't planning on only using it for height.
 
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