Rate Stack for Bones and Height

[LLcel]

*Info*

19.1 5,10 (morning height)

Came up with this stack from the past 3-4 days of insight from various sources (no prior knowledge or interest).

90% certain growth plates are fused (other than my spine which I plan on targeting) since I have remained at the same height since 16.

Both parents are around 5,7 - 5,8 so I can only assume I have somewhat surpassed genetic cap since I was properly nourished and was active during puberty (mainly swimming but also soccer and basketball at a younger age).

I plan on only doing a few cycles before evaluating if its worth continuing.

Feel free to comment on any changes you believe I can make to better synergize the stack.

Keep in mind this is my first time using peps much less creating a stack that I have no proper judgment on from inadequate research.

I have no predetermined expectations with using this stack I am rather looking at it from an experimental standpoint in which it might A) Do nothing or B) Provide minimal - decent positive feedback.

Lastly dosages will not be listed as it is still a work in progress.

*Stack*

Peptides
CJC-1295 No DAC (Mod GRF (1-29))
Ipamorelin
DSIP Blend Spray (GABA + Melatonin + DSIP)
Follistatin 344 (Skeptical of purity/potency since limited sources and generally hard to come by pure grade).

Peptides I will consider incorporating later if need be
BPC-157 & TB-500

Minerals and Vitamins
Lactoferrin
MSM
Huperzine A
Nitric Oxide Blend (L-arginine + L-Citrulline)
Slin pills (Lipoic Acid + Piperine + Berberine)
K2 + D3
Zinc
Magnesium
Boron

Minerals/Vitamins I may add later
KSM-66 Ashwagandha
Shilajit
Creatine
Fish oil
Bee pollen
Ginger
Beta carotene
Choccy milk

*Exercise*

HIIT: 2-4x a week (Gym)
Stretching/Decompressing: daily
Posturemaxxing: daily (since im cooked from siege)
Massai jumps for microfractures (cope)
Sprinting intervals (HGH release theory)

*Diet*

Wont go into too much detail but will be on a Protein Surplus diet as it is necessary to insure proper translation of the stimulated HGH to IGF-1 otherwise your body will excrete it and it will end up a waste.

*Conclusion*

As stated prior this is all a result of minimal research and an urge to act before my fate is permanently sealed, that being said I am open to feedback as it helps me further understand what I stand to gain/lose. I feel as though my height is a middle ground both literally and in the sense that I am not totally dissatisfied nor contempt with it. Furthermore I am fully aware that this stack is no where near what some of you guys run/recommend running, I don't have the money or interest in blasting pharma straight to the gills, thereby causing self conflicting views on if this stack is even significant enough (even at higher dosages and consistent cycles) to have real positive effects. Nonetheless let me know what you guys think.

 

[LLcel]

5'10 is fine already imo what is your face like?

high mtn - low htn if fully debloated and regular gym among other factors but ive since quit to focus on college this is all part of starting to go get back in the groove.

 

[TrustMeBro]

*Info*

19.1 5,10 (morning height)

Came up with this stack from the past 3-4 days of insight from various sources (no prior knowledge or interest).

90% certain growth plates are fused (other than my spine which I plan on targeting) since I have remained at the same height since 16.

Both parents are around 5,7 - 5,8 so I can only assume I have somewhat surpassed genetic cap since I was properly nourished and was active during puberty (mainly swimming but also soccer and basketball at a younger age).

I plan on only doing a few cycles before evaluating if its worth continuing.

Feel free to comment on any changes you believe I can make to better synergize the stack.

Keep in mind this is my first time using peps much less creating a stack that I have no proper judgment on from inadequate research.

I have no predetermined expectations with using this stack I am rather looking at it from an experimental standpoint in which it might A) Do nothing or B) Provide minimal - decent positive feedback.

Lastly dosages will not be listed as it is still a work in progress.

*Stack*

Peptides
CJC-1295 No DAC (Mod GRF (1-29))
Ipamorelin
DSIP Blend Spray (GABA + Melatonin + DSIP)
Follistatin 344 (Skeptical of purity/potency since limited sources and generally hard to come by pure grade).

Peptides I will consider incorporating later if need be
BPC-157 & TB-500

Minerals and Vitamins
Lactoferrin
MSM
Huperzine A
Nitric Oxide Blend (L-arginine + L-Citrulline)
Slin pills (Lipoic Acid + Piperine + Berberine)
K2 + D3
Zinc
Magnesium
Boron

Minerals/Vitamins I may add later
KSM-66 Ashwagandha
Shilajit
Creatine
Fish oil
Bee pollen
Ginger
Beta carotene
Choccy milk

*Exercise*

HIIT: 2-4x a week (Gym)
Stretching/Decompressing: daily
Posturemaxxing: daily (since im cooked from siege)
Massai jumps for microfractures (cope)
Sprinting intervals (HGH release theory)

*Diet*

Wont go into too much detail but will be on a Protein Surplus diet as it is necessary to insure proper translation of the stimulated HGH to IGF-1 otherwise your body will excrete it and it will end up a waste.

*Conclusion*

As stated prior this is all a result of minimal research and an urge to act before my fate is permanently sealed, that being said I am open to feedback as it helps me further understand what I stand to gain/lose. I feel as though my height is a middle ground both literally and in the sense that I am not totally dissatisfied nor contempt with it. Furthermore I am fully aware that this stack is no where near what some of you guys run/recommend running, I don't have the money or interest in blasting pharma straight to the gills, thereby causing self conflicting views on if this stack is even significant enough (even at higher dosages and consistent cycles) to have real positive effects. Nonetheless let me know what you guys think.

if you just used phermonia it would be enough for bone mass

 

[LLcel]

if you just used phermonia it would be enough for bone mass

never heard but will look into it.

 

[LLcel]

5'10 and above avg why don't u just enjoy if u are nt you will face a lot of health problems from this stack imo just don't do the peptides

this is how I thought up until now but at some point curiosity kills the cat. Could you elaborate on health concerns from these specific peptides? I purposely chose Ipam since it doesn't increase cortisol or prolactin and I was looking into dosing CJC lower since I've read that it generally has more side effects than Ipam. Follistatin is the only one im still iffy on in regards to minimal testing and its primary purpose being muscle growth as opposed to bone.

 

[LLcel]

peptides might be fine there hasn't been enough research, you don't wanna be the guy that faces health problems because of that especially when you are already above avg height

realistically peptides won't make u grow if you wanted to grow at this point you'd have to blast HGH even then i don't think you would see more than an inch

yeah that was water on my part, but part of why I looked into it was to simply see if I could increase facial bone mass/density I think that would greatly increase appeal to my archetype

 

[Deleted member 77820]

*Info*

19.1 5,10 (morning height)

Came up with this stack from the past 3-4 days of insight from various sources (no prior knowledge or interest).

90% certain growth plates are fused (other than my spine which I plan on targeting) since I have remained at the same height since 16.

Both parents are around 5,7 - 5,8 so I can only assume I have somewhat surpassed genetic cap since I was properly nourished and was active during puberty (mainly swimming but also soccer and basketball at a younger age).

I plan on only doing a few cycles before evaluating if its worth continuing.

Feel free to comment on any changes you believe I can make to better synergize the stack.

Keep in mind this is my first time using peps much less creating a stack that I have no proper judgment on from inadequate research.

I have no predetermined expectations with using this stack I am rather looking at it from an experimental standpoint in which it might A) Do nothing or B) Provide minimal - decent positive feedback.

Lastly dosages will not be listed as it is still a work in progress.

*Stack*

Peptides
CJC-1295 No DAC (Mod GRF (1-29))
Ipamorelin
DSIP Blend Spray (GABA + Melatonin + DSIP)
Follistatin 344 (Skeptical of purity/potency since limited sources and generally hard to come by pure grade).

Peptides I will consider incorporating later if need be
BPC-157 & TB-500

Minerals and Vitamins
Lactoferrin
MSM
Huperzine A
Nitric Oxide Blend (L-arginine + L-Citrulline)
Slin pills (Lipoic Acid + Piperine + Berberine)
K2 + D3
Zinc
Magnesium
Boron

Minerals/Vitamins I may add later
KSM-66 Ashwagandha
Shilajit
Creatine
Fish oil
Bee pollen
Ginger
Beta carotene
Choccy milk

*Exercise*

HIIT: 2-4x a week (Gym)
Stretching/Decompressing: daily
Posturemaxxing: daily (since im cooked from siege)
Massai jumps for microfractures (cope)
Sprinting intervals (HGH release theory)

*Diet*

Wont go into too much detail but will be on a Protein Surplus diet as it is necessary to insure proper translation of the stimulated HGH to IGF-1 otherwise your body will excrete it and it will end up a waste.

*Conclusion*

As stated prior this is all a result of minimal research and an urge to act before my fate is permanently sealed, that being said I am open to feedback as it helps me further understand what I stand to gain/lose. I feel as though my height is a middle ground both literally and in the sense that I am not totally dissatisfied nor contempt with it. Furthermore I am fully aware that this stack is no where near what some of you guys run/recommend running, I don't have the money or interest in blasting pharma straight to the gills, thereby causing self conflicting views on if this stack is even significant enough (even at higher dosages and consistent cycles) to have real positive effects. Nonetheless let me know what you guys think.

Remove the Slin pins those shit inhibits Mtor and igf-1
And Spam letrozole
But your already 19 its over bro of your licky you might grow another inch thats if your lucky

 

[Deleted member 77820]

*Info*

19.1 5,10 (morning height)

Came up with this stack from the past 3-4 days of insight from various sources (no prior knowledge or interest).

90% certain growth plates are fused (other than my spine which I plan on targeting) since I have remained at the same height since 16.

Both parents are around 5,7 - 5,8 so I can only assume I have somewhat surpassed genetic cap since I was properly nourished and was active during puberty (mainly swimming but also soccer and basketball at a younger age).

I plan on only doing a few cycles before evaluating if its worth continuing.

Feel free to comment on any changes you believe I can make to better synergize the stack.

Keep in mind this is my first time using peps much less creating a stack that I have no proper judgment on from inadequate research.

I have no predetermined expectations with using this stack I am rather looking at it from an experimental standpoint in which it might A) Do nothing or B) Provide minimal - decent positive feedback.

Lastly dosages will not be listed as it is still a work in progress.

*Stack*

Peptides
CJC-1295 No DAC (Mod GRF (1-29))
Ipamorelin
DSIP Blend Spray (GABA + Melatonin + DSIP)
Follistatin 344 (Skeptical of purity/potency since limited sources and generally hard to come by pure grade).

Peptides I will consider incorporating later if need be
BPC-157 & TB-500

Minerals and Vitamins
Lactoferrin
MSM
Huperzine A
Nitric Oxide Blend (L-arginine + L-Citrulline)
Slin pills (Lipoic Acid + Piperine + Berberine)
K2 + D3
Zinc
Magnesium
Boron

Minerals/Vitamins I may add later
KSM-66 Ashwagandha
Shilajit
Creatine
Fish oil
Bee pollen
Ginger
Beta carotene
Choccy milk

*Exercise*

HIIT: 2-4x a week (Gym)
Stretching/Decompressing: daily
Posturemaxxing: daily (since im cooked from siege)
Massai jumps for microfractures (cope)
Sprinting intervals (HGH release theory)

*Diet*

Wont go into too much detail but will be on a Protein Surplus diet as it is necessary to insure proper translation of the stimulated HGH to IGF-1 otherwise your body will excrete it and it will end up a waste.

*Conclusion*

As stated prior this is all a result of minimal research and an urge to act before my fate is permanently sealed, that being said I am open to feedback as it helps me further understand what I stand to gain/lose. I feel as though my height is a middle ground both literally and in the sense that I am not totally dissatisfied nor contempt with it. Furthermore I am fully aware that this stack is no where near what some of you guys run/recommend running, I don't have the money or interest in blasting pharma straight to the gills, thereby causing self conflicting views on if this stack is even significant enough (even at higher dosages and consistent cycles) to have real positive effects. Nonetheless let me know what you guys think.

My ideal stack :
2.5 mg letrozole
500 mcg ipam 3x per day
30 iu of lantus insulin in the morning
Super high protein diet like 300g per day
(Especially liver eat a lot of it literraly in some studies Vitamin A is shown to be better at height growth in guys who deficient than fucking hgh anavar it also has been compared to aromatize inhibitor in some studies where they megadosed it now preferably take the anaimal version from liver and not vegetables cause its liver toxic and downregulate your thyroid just take liver and call it a day)
10 hours of sleep
Also Spam deadhangs in the morning (it help Frauds by like 0.5 cm)

With all this you’ll probably get to 6ft
Then use lift bla bla bla to get to 6ft2

 

[LLcel]

Remove the Slin pins those shit inhibits Mtor and igf-1
And Spam letrozole
But your already 19 its over bro of your licky you might grow another inch thats if your lucky

not sure if theres a point left in using an AI but I already have aromasin is letro better?

 

[Deleted member 77820]

not sure if theres a point left in using an AI but I already have aromasin is letro better?

You need to crush your estrogen boyos your literraly 19 if you were 15 then i would have used aromas
Also megadose melatonin and gaba when you start using letrozole
And add joint aid supplement like Msm chondroitin ect….

 

[LLcel]

My ideal stack :
2.5 mg letrozole
500 mcg ipam 3x per day
30 iu of lantus insulin in the morning
Super high protein diet like 300g per day
(Especially liver eat a lot of it literraly in some studies Vitamin A is shown to be better at height growth in guys who deficient than fucking hgh anavar it also has been compared to aromatize inhibitor in some studies where they megadosed it now preferably take the anaimal version from liver and not vegetables cause its liver toxic and downregulate your thyroid just take liver and call it a day)
10 hours of sleep
Also Spam deadhangs in the morning (it help Frauds by like 0.5 cm)

With all this you’ll probably get to 6ft
Then use lift bla bla bla to get to 6ft2

my college doesn't vary much in what they serve but im gonna try to get the protein regardless im fairly skinny so I dont think id need 300g as for the sleep ill be out with the DSIP

 

[LLcel]

You need to crush your estrogen boyos your literraly 19 if you were 15 then i would have used aromas
Also megadose melatonin and gaba when you start using letrozole
And add joint aid supplement like Msm chondroitin ect….

ive accommodated most of that within the minerals already how long is the letzro cycle?

 

[Deleted member 77820]

my college doesn't vary much in what they serve but im gonna try to get the protein regardless im fairly skinny so I dont think id need 300g as for the sleep ill be out with the DSIP

Nahh you need 300 if you wanna grow as fast as possible

 

[Deleted member 77820]

ive accommodated most of that within the minerals already how long is the letzro cycle?

I don’t think you’ll need vitamin and mineral if your already eating lke 300g of protein boyos
Forever until you achieve 6ft never go off

 

[JayMac15]

*Info*

19.1 5,10 (morning height)

Came up with this stack from the past 3-4 days of insight from various sources (no prior knowledge or interest).

90% certain growth plates are fused (other than my spine which I plan on targeting) since I have remained at the same height since 16.

Both parents are around 5,7 - 5,8 so I can only assume I have somewhat surpassed genetic cap since I was properly nourished and was active during puberty (mainly swimming but also soccer and basketball at a younger age).

I plan on only doing a few cycles before evaluating if its worth continuing.

Feel free to comment on any changes you believe I can make to better synergize the stack.

Keep in mind this is my first time using peps much less creating a stack that I have no proper judgment on from inadequate research.

I have no predetermined expectations with using this stack I am rather looking at it from an experimental standpoint in which it might A) Do nothing or B) Provide minimal - decent positive feedback.

Lastly dosages will not be listed as it is still a work in progress.

*Stack*

Peptides
CJC-1295 No DAC (Mod GRF (1-29))
Ipamorelin
DSIP Blend Spray (GABA + Melatonin + DSIP)
Follistatin 344 (Skeptical of purity/potency since limited sources and generally hard to come by pure grade).

Peptides I will consider incorporating later if need be
BPC-157 & TB-500

Minerals and Vitamins
Lactoferrin
MSM
Huperzine A
Nitric Oxide Blend (L-arginine + L-Citrulline)
Slin pills (Lipoic Acid + Piperine + Berberine)
K2 + D3
Zinc
Magnesium
Boron

Minerals/Vitamins I may add later
KSM-66 Ashwagandha
Shilajit
Creatine
Fish oil
Bee pollen
Ginger
Beta carotene
Choccy milk

*Exercise*

HIIT: 2-4x a week (Gym)
Stretching/Decompressing: daily
Posturemaxxing: daily (since im cooked from siege)
Massai jumps for microfractures (cope)
Sprinting intervals (HGH release theory)

*Diet*

Wont go into too much detail but will be on a Protein Surplus diet as it is necessary to insure proper translation of the stimulated HGH to IGF-1 otherwise your body will excrete it and it will end up a waste.

*Conclusion*

As stated prior this is all a result of minimal research and an urge to act before my fate is permanently sealed, that being said I am open to feedback as it helps me further understand what I stand to gain/lose. I feel as though my height is a middle ground both literally and in the sense that I am not totally dissatisfied nor contempt with it. Furthermore I am fully aware that this stack is no where near what some of you guys run/recommend running, I don't have the money or interest in blasting pharma straight to the gills, thereby causing self conflicting views on if this stack is even significant enough (even at higher dosages and consistent cycles) to have real positive effects. Nonetheless let me know what you guys think.

choccy milk

 

[LLcel]

I don’t think you’ll need vitamin and mineral if your already eating lke 300g of protein boyos
Forever until you achieve 6ft never go off

bet

 

[Prettyboymog]

First of all you probs won’t get much facial changes cuz of your age.You could get a lot of height from your spine as I read a thread yesterday on a guy get 2.5 inches in 3-4 months of just doing his spine stretches methods and stuff. Your results won’t be as much but the peptides would help a lot

In terms of your stack, the 2.5 mg letrozole and 500 mcg of both ipa and cjc etc that the guy above said sounds good. But you probs won’t get much growth unless your growth plates are open and if they’re not then spine growth is your only way.

If you want I’ll tag you in that spine growth anecdote thread.

 

[shtbender]

Imagine not having test in your stack

 

[LLcel]

First of all you probs won’t get much facial changes cuz of your age.You could get a lot of height from your spine as I read a thread yesterday on a guy get 2.5 inches in 3-4 months of just doing his spine stretches methods and stuff. Your results won’t be as much but the peptides would help a lot

In terms of your stack, the 2.5 mg letrozole and 500 mcg of both ipa and cjc etc that the guy above said sounds good. But you probs won’t get much growth unless your growth plates are open and if they’re not then spine growth is your only way.

If you want I’ll tag you in that spine growth anecdote thread.

already have that bookmarked and was planning to do all that once I am in cycle

 

[LLcel]

Imagine not having test in your stack

naturally higher side dont want to rely on that for the rest of my life

 

[ectomorpher]

*Info*

19.1 5,10 (morning height)

Came up with this stack from the past 3-4 days of insight from various sources (no prior knowledge or interest).

90% certain growth plates are fused (other than my spine which I plan on targeting) since I have remained at the same height since 16.

Both parents are around 5,7 - 5,8 so I can only assume I have somewhat surpassed genetic cap since I was properly nourished and was active during puberty (mainly swimming but also soccer and basketball at a younger age).

I plan on only doing a few cycles before evaluating if its worth continuing.

Feel free to comment on any changes you believe I can make to better synergize the stack.

Keep in mind this is my first time using peps much less creating a stack that I have no proper judgment on from inadequate research.

I have no predetermined expectations with using this stack I am rather looking at it from an experimental standpoint in which it might A) Do nothing or B) Provide minimal - decent positive feedback.

Lastly dosages will not be listed as it is still a work in progress.

*Stack*

Peptides
CJC-1295 No DAC (Mod GRF (1-29))
Ipamorelin
DSIP Blend Spray (GABA + Melatonin + DSIP)
Follistatin 344 (Skeptical of purity/potency since limited sources and generally hard to come by pure grade).

Peptides I will consider incorporating later if need be
BPC-157 & TB-500

Minerals and Vitamins
Lactoferrin
MSM
Huperzine A
Nitric Oxide Blend (L-arginine + L-Citrulline)
Slin pills (Lipoic Acid + Piperine + Berberine)
K2 + D3
Zinc
Magnesium
Boron

Minerals/Vitamins I may add later
KSM-66 Ashwagandha
Shilajit
Creatine
Fish oil
Bee pollen
Ginger
Beta carotene
Choccy milk

*Exercise*

HIIT: 2-4x a week (Gym)
Stretching/Decompressing: daily
Posturemaxxing: daily (since im cooked from siege)
Massai jumps for microfractures (cope)
Sprinting intervals (HGH release theory)

*Diet*

Wont go into too much detail but will be on a Protein Surplus diet as it is necessary to insure proper translation of the stimulated HGH to IGF-1 otherwise your body will excrete it and it will end up a waste.

*Conclusion*

As stated prior this is all a result of minimal research and an urge to act before my fate is permanently sealed, that being said I am open to feedback as it helps me further understand what I stand to gain/lose. I feel as though my height is a middle ground both literally and in the sense that I am not totally dissatisfied nor contempt with it. Furthermore I am fully aware that this stack is no where near what some of you guys run/recommend running, I don't have the money or interest in blasting pharma straight to the gills, thereby causing self conflicting views on if this stack is even significant enough (even at higher dosages and consistent cycles) to have real positive effects. Nonetheless let me know what you guys think.

Where do you buy these ?

 

[shtbender]

naturally higher side dont want to rely on that for the rest of my life

youve been mislead. Only in extremely rare cases have people not been able to restore their natural test after proper pct

 

[LLcel]

youve been mislead. Only in extremely rare cases have people not been able to restore their natural test after proper pct

too many needles twin my attention span not built for allat

 

[shtbender]

too many needles twin my attention span not built for allat

Fair enough

 

[skullmog]

*Info*

19.1 5,10 (morning height)

Came up with this stack from the past 3-4 days of insight from various sources (no prior knowledge or interest).

90% certain growth plates are fused (other than my spine which I plan on targeting) since I have remained at the same height since 16.

Both parents are around 5,7 - 5,8 so I can only assume I have somewhat surpassed genetic cap since I was properly nourished and was active during puberty (mainly swimming but also soccer and basketball at a younger age).

I plan on only doing a few cycles before evaluating if its worth continuing.

Feel free to comment on any changes you believe I can make to better synergize the stack.

Keep in mind this is my first time using peps much less creating a stack that I have no proper judgment on from inadequate research.

I have no predetermined expectations with using this stack I am rather looking at it from an experimental standpoint in which it might A) Do nothing or B) Provide minimal - decent positive feedback.

Lastly dosages will not be listed as it is still a work in progress.

*Stack*

Peptides
CJC-1295 No DAC (Mod GRF (1-29))
Ipamorelin
DSIP Blend Spray (GABA + Melatonin + DSIP)
Follistatin 344 (Skeptical of purity/potency since limited sources and generally hard to come by pure grade).

Peptides I will consider incorporating later if need be
BPC-157 & TB-500

Minerals and Vitamins
Lactoferrin
MSM
Huperzine A
Nitric Oxide Blend (L-arginine + L-Citrulline)
Slin pills (Lipoic Acid + Piperine + Berberine)
K2 + D3
Zinc
Magnesium
Boron

Minerals/Vitamins I may add later
KSM-66 Ashwagandha
Shilajit
Creatine
Fish oil
Bee pollen
Ginger
Beta carotene
Choccy milk

*Exercise*

HIIT: 2-4x a week (Gym)
Stretching/Decompressing: daily
Posturemaxxing: daily (since im cooked from siege)
Massai jumps for microfractures (cope)
Sprinting intervals (HGH release theory)

*Diet*

Wont go into too much detail but will be on a Protein Surplus diet as it is necessary to insure proper translation of the stimulated HGH to IGF-1 otherwise your body will excrete it and it will end up a waste.

*Conclusion*

As stated prior this is all a result of minimal research and an urge to act before my fate is permanently sealed, that being said I am open to feedback as it helps me further understand what I stand to gain/lose. I feel as though my height is a middle ground both literally and in the sense that I am not totally dissatisfied nor contempt with it. Furthermore I am fully aware that this stack is no where near what some of you guys run/recommend running, I don't have the money or interest in blasting pharma straight to the gills, thereby causing self conflicting views on if this stack is even significant enough (even at higher dosages and consistent cycles) to have real positive effects. Nonetheless let me know what you guys think.

U cannot surpass a genetic cap

 

[LLcel]

Where do you buy these ?

pm me for sources

 

[LLcel]

U cannot surpass a genetic cap

who's to say i've reached the cap tho, I was already 5,8 - 5,9 at 14 and throughout all those years was rationally expecting to be at least 6+, to my demise I only reached 5,10 which made me question if my early onset puberty was caused by too much HGH/IGF-1 that ultimately crashed after puberty sealing my plates early in the process. Regardless I wasn't planning on only using it for height.

 

[iblamewill]

Where do you buy these ?

Pre good

 

[mattmogstomumbai]

Nahh you need 300 if you wanna grow as fast as possible

At 16 how many letro should I use eod?
Bone age 16/5'8
10%bf

 

[Deleted member 77820]

At 16 how many letro should I use eod?
Bone age 16/5'8
10%bf

1.25 mg to completely anhilate your estrogen

 

[mattmogstomumbai]

1.25 mg to completely anhilate your estrogen

0.625mg eod can get me to 10 or it will nuke it completely

 

[NeedBoneMassASAP]

My ideal stack :
2.5 mg letrozole
500 mcg ipam 3x per day
30 iu of lantus insulin in the morning
Super high protein diet like 300g per day
(Especially liver eat a lot of it literraly in some studies Vitamin A is shown to be better at height growth in guys who deficient than fucking hgh anavar it also has been compared to aromatize inhibitor in some studies where they megadosed it now preferably take the anaimal version from liver and not vegetables cause its liver toxic and downregulate your thyroid just take liver and call it a day)
10 hours of sleep
Also Spam deadhangs in the morning (it help Frauds by like 0.5 cm)

With all this you’ll probably get to 6ft
Then use lift bla bla bla to get to 6ft2

Why not Mod grf instead of ipam?

 

[Deleted member 77820]

Why not Mod grf instead of ipam?

Elevation in cortisol and prolactin

 

[NeedBoneMassASAP]

Elevation in cortisol and prolactin

But its only minimal slightly higher, while the efficiency is alot higher? It also has way better natural pulses than ipamorelin wich leads to less risks like maintaining better insulin sensitivity in the long run even tho its stronger.

 

[Deleted member 77820]

But its only minimal slightly higher, while the efficiency is alot higher? It also has way better natural pulses than ipamorelin wich leads to less risks like maintaining better insulin sensitivity in the long run even tho its stronger.

Wtf are you talking about ipam is better than modgrf in very single way
The only time i would add modgrf to my stack is if i already use ipam

 

[NeedBoneMassASAP]

Wtf are you talking about ipam is better than modgrf in very single way
The only time i would add modgrf to my stack is if i already use ipam

Thanks for the response, what do you mean? Every single Study ive read, every single Thread ive read wether its on a bodybuilding forum or this one, they were always talking about mod grf being better than ipamorelin, even chatgpt agrees with that.

 

[Deleted member 77820]

Thanks for the response, what do you mean? Every single Study ive read, every single Thread ive read wether its on a bodybuilding forum or this one, they were always talking about mod grf being better than ipamorelin, even chatgpt agrees with that.

It isnt
And its clear you hadn’t read a single study
A guy using ipam keeping cortisol and prolactin in control would have higher hgh igf-1 hgh pulses less water retention and it would be cheaper and more convenient
The only way that modgrf would be better is if you somewhat manage to keep cortisol and prolactin in check and inject like 5-8x per day
For me my optimal stack is ipamorelin and lantus insulin and micro dosing tren (super low doses) with a shit ton of test and some other ancilllaries with Ai of course

 

[nik.077]

*Info*

19.1 5,10 (morning height)

Came up with this stack from the past 3-4 days of insight from various sources (no prior knowledge or interest).

90% certain growth plates are fused (other than my spine which I plan on targeting) since I have remained at the same height since 16.

Both parents are around 5,7 - 5,8 so I can only assume I have somewhat surpassed genetic cap since I was properly nourished and was active during puberty (mainly swimming but also soccer and basketball at a younger age).

I plan on only doing a few cycles before evaluating if its worth continuing.

Feel free to comment on any changes you believe I can make to better synergize the stack.

Keep in mind this is my first time using peps much less creating a stack that I have no proper judgment on from inadequate research.

I have no predetermined expectations with using this stack I am rather looking at it from an experimental standpoint in which it might A) Do nothing or B) Provide minimal - decent positive feedback.

Lastly dosages will not be listed as it is still a work in progress.

*Stack*

Peptides
CJC-1295 No DAC (Mod GRF (1-29))
Ipamorelin
DSIP Blend Spray (GABA + Melatonin + DSIP)
Follistatin 344 (Skeptical of purity/potency since limited sources and generally hard to come by pure grade).

Peptides I will consider incorporating later if need be
BPC-157 & TB-500

Minerals and Vitamins
Lactoferrin
MSM
Huperzine A
Nitric Oxide Blend (L-arginine + L-Citrulline)
Slin pills (Lipoic Acid + Piperine + Berberine)
K2 + D3
Zinc
Magnesium
Boron

Minerals/Vitamins I may add later
KSM-66 Ashwagandha
Shilajit
Creatine
Fish oil
Bee pollen
Ginger
Beta carotene
Choccy milk

*Exercise*

HIIT: 2-4x a week (Gym)
Stretching/Decompressing: daily
Posturemaxxing: daily (since im cooked from siege)
Massai jumps for microfractures (cope)
Sprinting intervals (HGH release theory)

*Diet*

Wont go into too much detail but will be on a Protein Surplus diet as it is necessary to insure proper translation of the stimulated HGH to IGF-1 otherwise your body will excrete it and it will end up a waste.

*Conclusion*

As stated prior this is all a result of minimal research and an urge to act before my fate is permanently sealed, that being said I am open to feedback as it helps me further understand what I stand to gain/lose. I feel as though my height is a middle ground both literally and in the sense that I am not totally dissatisfied nor contempt with it. Furthermore I am fully aware that this stack is no where near what some of you guys run/recommend running, I don't have the money or interest in blasting pharma straight to the gills, thereby causing self conflicting views on if this stack is even significant enough (even at higher dosages and consistent cycles) to have real positive effects. Nonetheless let me know what you guys think.

this all just increases bone density, not bone mass

 

[Magnum452]

How do you plan on targeting your spine specifically?

 

[LLcel]

How do you plan on targeting your spine specifically?

the disks in ur spine stay open past 20 sometimes. there are a few threads that discuss that on here, im mainly gonna focus on fixing my posture then staying morning height throughout the day, and finally a few other methods for some mm's of height lmao. ofc itll be an anecdote if i happen to "get any taller" but its worth a try can link said threads in pm if u want.

 

[ShawarmaFilth]

It isnt
And its clear you hadn’t read a single study
A guy using ipam keeping cortisol and prolactin in control would have higher hgh igf-1 hgh pulses less water retention and it would be cheaper and more convenient
The only way that modgrf would be better is if you somewhat manage to keep cortisol and prolactin in check and inject like 5-8x per day
For me my optimal stack is ipamorelin and lantus insulin and micro dosing tren (super low doses) with a shit ton of test and some other ancilllaries with Ai of course

Why 300g of protien? Thats a one way ticket to get fat

 

[Deleted member 77820]

Why 300g of protien? Thats a one way ticket to get fat

Your retarded you probably believe in Iffym right jfl
In studies where they they took men and gave them caloric surplus from different macros (1 group fat 1 group carbs and 1 group protein the group that took protein actually lost fat while gaining mucslf)

 

[Anothersub5]

my optimal stack is ipamorelin and lantus insulin and micro dosing tren (super low doses) with a shit ton of test and some other ancilllaries with Ai of course

how much tren should be optimal to blast (heightmaxx porpuses), and for how long?

 

[Deleted member 77820]

how much tren should be optimal to blast (heightmaxx porpuses), and for how long?

85-170 if Ace (depends on test dosages and the side your getting)
100-200 if Enanthate

 

[Magnum452]

the disks in ur spine stay open past 20 sometimes. there are a few threads that discuss that on here, im mainly gonna focus on fixing my posture then staying morning height throughout the day, and finally a few other methods for some mm's of height lmao. ofc itll be an anecdote if i happen to "get any taller" but its worth a try can link said threads in pm if u want.

Ya I'm 19 too so interested.....please do pm me those threads

 

[ShawarmaFilth]

Your retarded you probably believe in Iffym right jfl
In studies where they they took men and gave them caloric surplus from different macros (1 group fat 1 group carbs and 1 group protein the group that took protein actually lost fat while gaining mucslf)

Theres no need to get all defensive

First i asked why even have the 300g of protien

Secondly, it’s true that protien burns 20-30% more calories being digested than other macros, how big was the surplus of protien?

Also nothing wrong with iffym

 

[Deleted member 77820]

Theres no need to get all defensive

First i asked why even have the 300g of protien

Secondly, it’s true that protien burns 20-30% more calories being digested than other macros, how big was the surplus of protien?

Also nothing wrong with iffym

Yes it is
People overestimates micros and food profile
Fats are not all the same
Protein isn’t all the same

Lets say we have 2 guys having normal diet their maintenance is like 2000 cals (supposedly)
A guy who eat a healthy diet could eat 2500 cal to achive maintenance
While te guy who eat like shit would eat 1500 cal to achieve maintenance

 

[ShawarmaFilth]

Yes it is
People overestimates micros and food profile
Fats are not all the same
Protein isn’t all the same

That doesn’t explain why you said 300g of protien

A guy who eat a healthy diet could eat 2500 cal to achive maintenance
While te guy who eat like shit would eat 1500 cal to achieve maintenance

Why?

 

[Deleted member 77820]

That doesn’t explain why you said 300g of protien


Why?

More is better
The buggest lie in the fitness industry is you only need 1g/lb of bw

Their is 100 reason bro
Fats aren’t all the same like i explained in a previous response
That non processed pufa fats are more anabolic and cause better body recomposition changes then any other type of fat even in a caloric surplus

Amino Acide profile isn’t all the same some amino acides has slight liposis effect (not that much but might help you gain like 5% + calories and add to that the thermic effect some amino acids like leucine argine … are mandatory for shit like igf-1 Mtor the lore you take the better a lot of guys here talk about shit like sugar increase igf-1 yeah it does but protein doed that 5x better

Dome amino acids have unique anabolic effects like Glycine Taurine
And then we have shit like Cartinine that make you more sensitive to testosterone a guy on Carnitine + 150 test would be like running 200 test alone

And micro nutrients if your depleted of them even if your on roids your gonna shrink your muscles and increase you fat storage
You literraly can’t build muscle even if you eated 5000 calories and 500 g of protein if your food had 0 vitamin in it

For example do you know how they discovered vitamin it was because the japanese noticed that brown rice made chicken a lot bigger then white rice (when calories were equated) why is that cause brown rice is more nutrient dense

And also some micro nutrition (like did you know phosphorus act on thyroid receptors thus making you more sensitive to T3 that why bodybuilders get thinner skin when eating shit ton of fish i remember flex wheeler talking about it and everyone laughed at his ass kevin levrone also did the same thing in prep their are some instances the bros are actually right and are way ahead of their time

@Clavicular
@halloweed
@Jonas2k7
@LLsurgeryEnthusiast
@org3cel.RR

 

[ShawarmaFilth]

More is better
The buggest lie in the fitness industry is you only need 1g/lb of bw

Their is 100 reason bro
Fats aren’t all the same like i explained in a previous response
That non processed pufa fats are more anabolic and cause better body recomposition changes then any other type of fat even in a caloric surplus

Amino Acide profile isn’t all the same some amino acides has slight liposis effect (not that much but might help you gain like 5% + calories and add to that the thermic effect some amino acids like leucine argine … are mandatory for shit like igf-1 Mtor the lore you take the better a lot of guys here talk about shit like sugar increase igf-1 yeah it does but protein doed that 5x better

Dome amino acids have unique anabolic effects like Glycine Taurine
And then we have shit like Cartinine that make you more sensitive to testosterone a guy on Carnitine + 150 test would be like running 200 test alone

And micro nutrients if your depleted of them even if your on roids your gonna shrink your muscles and increase you fat storage
You literraly can’t build muscle even if you eated 5000 calories and 500 g of protein if your food had 0 vitamin in it

For example do you know how they discovered vitamin it was because the japanese noticed that brown rice made chicken a lot bigger then white rice (when calories were equated) why is that cause brown rice is more nutrient dense

And also some micro nutrition (like did you know phosphorus act on thyroid receptors thus making you more sensitive to T3 that why bodybuilders get thinner skin when eating shit ton of fish i remember flex wheeler talking about it and everyone laughed at his ass kevin levrone also did the same thing in prep their are some instances the bros are actually right and are way ahead of their time

@Clavicular
@halloweed
@Jonas2k7
@LLsurgeryEnthusiast
@org3cel.RR

I agree it’s not smart to be nutrient deficient

I’m trying to say if you eat more calories than you burn you will gain fat