Rate + what to do to improve (realistic)

[hugechud]

15 6’1 170
started using tret recently

 

[senram]

l-mmtn. nose to lip ratio is fucked so commissuroplasty if you wanna go that route

 

[hugechud]

l-mmtn. nose to lip ratio is fucked so commissuroplasty if you wanna go that route

what could i do without surgery or pinning to improve?

 

[hugechud]

bump

 

[angle]

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15 6’1 170
started using tret recently

mtn good potential

 

[hugechud]

mtn good potential

what can i do to improve ?

 

[pb15]

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15 6’1 170
started using tret recently

Lmtn

 

[hugechud]

Lmtn

what can i do to improve?

 

[hugechud]

bump

 

[sphenocide]

l-mmtn. nose to lip ratio is fucked so commissuroplasty if you wanna go that route

would be better to wide his palate first if its narrow

 

[hugechud]

bump

 

[hugechud]

bump