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Why is correct knowledge in rating important?
It is very important to know properly how the rating system works to accurately determine your level of attractiveness (+position, capabilities, pros/cons of every level) and then work on the changes that might give you more points to move up to higher division
Why so many people mess it up when it is so easy?
There are many causes why people rate others inaccurately and it is very important for rating to be very accurate: to avoid unnecessary insecurities, or exact opposite to not live in delusion.
1. Trolls. - I have checked many rating forums of concerned teens or adults wondering how attractive they are, what is their standing and how they can improve. Most of these forums are filled with trolls spamming LTN LTN LTN, it is quite unfortunate that these kind of people are even allowed on this site. Looksmaxxing community should be dedicated for actually "looksmaxxing" and giving out accurate info and helping each other out to improve with realistic results and according to realistic ratings.
2. Goblins (.org cave dwellers) - according to ChatGPT goblins are often shown as greedy and selfish. Goblins are frequently described as hoarders of treasure or stolen goods, and they may cheat, trick, or steal from humans rather than earning things fairly. (Many stories depict them as malicious troublemakers. They tend to cause harm for fun or out of spite—sabotaging farms, annoying travelers, or living in places like caves or abandoned houses where they disturb others.) These goes out to all of the supposed "looksmaxxers" judging others and being overly critical or overly glazer with high delusion levels, when in reality they have not done a single surgery or important change looks-wise in their lives and they just join org to hoard attention and kill time because they have absolutely no activity in life with their (Special colored titles and huge amount of unnecessary garbage postings)
3. Ebola infected patients (So-called cucks and insecure moles of org) - Humans are insecure shits we know that, but some people like to spread their insecurities and infect others, they tend to lash out on people and tell them all sorts of shits so the person who is being attacked might feel slight troubled and slightly insecure so the cuck feels droplet of relief that they could spread their troubles onto someone else.
There are so many archetypes of these supposed "looksmaxxers" I will not be listing all of them, because if I do so it will be pages up on pages. These are just so you get general idea who you should not listen to or take advice from.
What is the correct rating? How can I correctly rate someone, so they actually benefit from it or how can I correctly rate myself so I can benefit from it.
Your average normie cuck (Majority % of org) would not even care about being bold, open-minded, kind and genuine to rate others and help them out. They rather be selfish and say "less competition
" when in reality they don't even know what they are talking about, slept with hookers, haven't done dating game and talk about "competition". But of course there are good individuals as well, who accurately rate others and do not even care about competition because they are sexy people, they know their worth and they know they walk it and not talk it. Even if there was high competition they would not be afflicted.
Attractiveness is purely objective, however beauty is subjective. For example: as shown on the 1. example, Tyrone might consider those women appealing and most definitely will sleep with them, but majority of people will not find them appealing. (Beauty is purely subjective it is driven by many factors, such as culture/tradition, ethnicity etc.) But when it comes to attractiveness it is purely objective and no one can run from it, it is within our sub-consciousness, when eye sees someone's face and body structure they determine in mile-seconds if the person is attractive or not.
1. 2.
Attractiveness is a (structure, proportions, symmetry, SKULL/BONES )
Beauty is a (preference and purely that)
To further strengthen my argument in 10th century China there was this tradition called Foot Binding "Lotus Feet" The practice involved tightly wrapping young girls’ feet so they would remain very small. Small feet became associated with beauty, status, and femininity in some parts of Chinese society. Which was seen as appealing, but it was purely tradition based and very subjective. Person outside this traditions finds this disgusting.
There are many examples like in Africa, according to their tradition and how they were raised up these are found appealing but of course this is purely subjective.
Also there were found Prehistoric figurines like the Venus of Willendorf (around 25,000 years old) which depicted women with exaggerated body fat and fertility features. Which meant according to their tradition or way of life (malnutrition etc.) They found fat basically obese women appealing and they were worshipped.
What I am getting at with these examples is that beauty is purely subjective and beauty standards change a lot overtime, but attractiveness stays the same it began since we were dropped on the earth.
Many almost majority of people mess this two terms up and subjectively judge others. If you are messing up beauty and attractiveness and that is how you rate someone, then it is just flawed and void.
^ Most of you already know this, this is almost always mixed up by delusional normies and biased people supporting "beauty/positivity" ass shit promoting people to be unhealthy and to cope hard in life.
Rating Chart
, proper way to use rating terms and rating scale (out of 10 method) itself.
In looksmaxxing terminology we have following terms when it comes to rating, this is very general.
Now we move onto description of each tier/level of attractiveness.
Let's start with LTN (Below Average) people.
When you look at LTN you will immediately notice that they have asymmetrical face, very weak features, obese or extremely skinny.
Examples:
LTNS usually have severely deformed features it can be: nose, chin, jaw, body. LTN person usually had health problems (breathing issues, mal-nutrition or over-eating problems, psychological issues etc) in childhood or accidents later on which altered persons face.
LTNS are not common, you are either born ltn or turn yourself into ltn by lifestyle choices/habits.
To escape this hell, you most likely need extreme surgeries, hard sessions in gym and many other cosmetic procedures to fix this shit.
MTN (Average)
This is basically a base-line, most of people start as MTN. Every MTN has potential to be slightly above average or straight up HTN.
Examples:
Average guy is an average guy... Some "looksmaxxers" might call some of these LTN, these kind of people are too deep into wrong side of looksmaxxing fuel of insecurities and copium.
MTN can have slightly chin recession, slightly big nose, be slightly skinny, slightly fat etc. As I said average guy is an average guy, if a person does not have extremely noticeable flaws on their face or body and blend in your usual crowd are MTNS>
As I said most of people are baseline MTNS and it is in their hand to ascend and be HTN or descend and be LTN.
To escape being MTN you need to either lose fat to show your true facial features if you have good facial features, or if you have slight flaws just your normal surgeries to fix them or gymmax. MTNs need hard sessions in gym to ascend to slightly above average (HMTN) or solid above average (HTN).
HTN (Above-Average)
Congratulations my friend you have been genetically gifted. HTNS have proportionate facial features, it does not necessarily mean all of their facial features must be prominent, but overall facial harmony (balance) is necessary. Because as I said prior that when a person sees other person they make decision within mile-seconds if this person is attractive or not and this is entirely based on facial harmony. HTNS are noticed in crowd.
Examples:
HTN has potential to become Chadlite. They usually do not need any surgeries, as their face are proportionate but they can utilize some softmaxxing methods such as cosmetic procedures or gymmaxing to get decent looking body, but this does not matter for them it is not necessary for HTN to workout to be attractive because they are already attractive and the face card can save them when being skinny or slightly fat. Of course being straight up fat will mask your features so just generally "slightly fat". Again it is not necessary for HTN to make too much changes to themselves, and if they do it is solely for the purpose to ascend to Chadlite.
Ascending to straight up Chad, is purely genetic if you do not have a wide prominent skull, thick bones, and huge frame it will be very difficult for HTN to ascend to Chad.
Chadlite.
We are moving on to top top tier people, they have perfect symmetrical face, prominent features and healthy proportionate tall body. (It is pretty much impossible to reach this level with surgeries, this is purely genetics)
They most definitely can reach true chads if they build big frame and just generally be very masculine.
Chad
Chads basically are mythological creatures, they not only have a killer card face but very dense bones and usually physically ripped.
Like chadlite it is impossible to be Chad if you are not genetically gifted.
For example:
Now I hope you learnt how to accurately rate someone, and hopefully you will be going on with your journey to help others with this information. Or just fix unnecessary insecurities of yourself and precisely measure and calculate what to change to ascend! Always remember be very realistic when it comes to looksmaxxing, know expectations know what you can do and what you can not do. (Could not add more examples 25 attachment restriction
)
It is very important to know properly how the rating system works to accurately determine your level of attractiveness (+position, capabilities, pros/cons of every level) and then work on the changes that might give you more points to move up to higher division
Why so many people mess it up when it is so easy?
There are many causes why people rate others inaccurately and it is very important for rating to be very accurate: to avoid unnecessary insecurities, or exact opposite to not live in delusion.
1. Trolls. - I have checked many rating forums of concerned teens or adults wondering how attractive they are, what is their standing and how they can improve. Most of these forums are filled with trolls spamming LTN LTN LTN, it is quite unfortunate that these kind of people are even allowed on this site. Looksmaxxing community should be dedicated for actually "looksmaxxing" and giving out accurate info and helping each other out to improve with realistic results and according to realistic ratings.
2. Goblins (.org cave dwellers) - according to ChatGPT goblins are often shown as greedy and selfish. Goblins are frequently described as hoarders of treasure or stolen goods, and they may cheat, trick, or steal from humans rather than earning things fairly. (Many stories depict them as malicious troublemakers. They tend to cause harm for fun or out of spite—sabotaging farms, annoying travelers, or living in places like caves or abandoned houses where they disturb others.) These goes out to all of the supposed "looksmaxxers" judging others and being overly critical or overly glazer with high delusion levels, when in reality they have not done a single surgery or important change looks-wise in their lives and they just join org to hoard attention and kill time because they have absolutely no activity in life with their (Special colored titles and huge amount of unnecessary garbage postings)
3. Ebola infected patients (So-called cucks and insecure moles of org) - Humans are insecure shits we know that, but some people like to spread their insecurities and infect others, they tend to lash out on people and tell them all sorts of shits so the person who is being attacked might feel slight troubled and slightly insecure so the cuck feels droplet of relief that they could spread their troubles onto someone else.
There are so many archetypes of these supposed "looksmaxxers" I will not be listing all of them, because if I do so it will be pages up on pages. These are just so you get general idea who you should not listen to or take advice from.
What is the correct rating? How can I correctly rate someone, so they actually benefit from it or how can I correctly rate myself so I can benefit from it.
Your average normie cuck (Majority % of org) would not even care about being bold, open-minded, kind and genuine to rate others and help them out. They rather be selfish and say "less competition
Attractiveness is purely objective, however beauty is subjective. For example: as shown on the 1. example, Tyrone might consider those women appealing and most definitely will sleep with them, but majority of people will not find them appealing. (Beauty is purely subjective it is driven by many factors, such as culture/tradition, ethnicity etc.) But when it comes to attractiveness it is purely objective and no one can run from it, it is within our sub-consciousness, when eye sees someone's face and body structure they determine in mile-seconds if the person is attractive or not.
1. 2.
Attractiveness is a (structure, proportions, symmetry, SKULL/BONES )
Beauty is a (preference and purely that)
To further strengthen my argument in 10th century China there was this tradition called Foot Binding "Lotus Feet" The practice involved tightly wrapping young girls’ feet so they would remain very small. Small feet became associated with beauty, status, and femininity in some parts of Chinese society. Which was seen as appealing, but it was purely tradition based and very subjective. Person outside this traditions finds this disgusting.
There are many examples like in Africa, according to their tradition and how they were raised up these are found appealing but of course this is purely subjective.
Also there were found Prehistoric figurines like the Venus of Willendorf (around 25,000 years old) which depicted women with exaggerated body fat and fertility features. Which meant according to their tradition or way of life (malnutrition etc.) They found fat basically obese women appealing and they were worshipped.
What I am getting at with these examples is that beauty is purely subjective and beauty standards change a lot overtime, but attractiveness stays the same it began since we were dropped on the earth.
Many almost majority of people mess this two terms up and subjectively judge others. If you are messing up beauty and attractiveness and that is how you rate someone, then it is just flawed and void.
^ Most of you already know this, this is almost always mixed up by delusional normies and biased people supporting "beauty/positivity" ass shit promoting people to be unhealthy and to cope hard in life.
Rating Chart
, proper way to use rating terms and rating scale (out of 10 method) itself.In looksmaxxing terminology we have following terms when it comes to rating, this is very general.
- LTN (Low Tier Normie) → below average
- MTN (Mid Tier Normie) → average range
- HTN (High Tier Normie) → above average
- Chadlite / Chad → very attractive to elite-looking
- 1–3 → Very unattractive (extreme negative features) there are no .5s here
- 4 → below average no .5s
- 5 → average (“normie”)
- 5.5 → Slightly above average (potentional to be 6)
- 6 → above average / clearly attractive
- 6.5 → Attractive (getting to model-tier, potentional to be 7)
- 7 → Very attractive (model-tier)
- 8-10 → Elite Tier (Very Attractive "Purely genetics")
- 4 → below average (sub 5)
- 5 → average (“normie”)
- 6-9 → above average
- 10 does not exist.
Now we move onto description of each tier/level of attractiveness.
Let's start with LTN (Below Average) people.
When you look at LTN you will immediately notice that they have asymmetrical face, very weak features, obese or extremely skinny.
Examples:
LTNS usually have severely deformed features it can be: nose, chin, jaw, body. LTN person usually had health problems (breathing issues, mal-nutrition or over-eating problems, psychological issues etc) in childhood or accidents later on which altered persons face.
LTNS are not common, you are either born ltn or turn yourself into ltn by lifestyle choices/habits.
To escape this hell, you most likely need extreme surgeries, hard sessions in gym and many other cosmetic procedures to fix this shit.
MTN (Average)
This is basically a base-line, most of people start as MTN. Every MTN has potential to be slightly above average or straight up HTN.
Examples:
Average guy is an average guy... Some "looksmaxxers" might call some of these LTN, these kind of people are too deep into wrong side of looksmaxxing fuel of insecurities and copium.
MTN can have slightly chin recession, slightly big nose, be slightly skinny, slightly fat etc. As I said average guy is an average guy, if a person does not have extremely noticeable flaws on their face or body and blend in your usual crowd are MTNS>
As I said most of people are baseline MTNS and it is in their hand to ascend and be HTN or descend and be LTN.
To escape being MTN you need to either lose fat to show your true facial features if you have good facial features, or if you have slight flaws just your normal surgeries to fix them or gymmax. MTNs need hard sessions in gym to ascend to slightly above average (HMTN) or solid above average (HTN).
HTN (Above-Average)
Congratulations my friend you have been genetically gifted. HTNS have proportionate facial features, it does not necessarily mean all of their facial features must be prominent, but overall facial harmony (balance) is necessary. Because as I said prior that when a person sees other person they make decision within mile-seconds if this person is attractive or not and this is entirely based on facial harmony. HTNS are noticed in crowd.
Examples:
HTN has potential to become Chadlite. They usually do not need any surgeries, as their face are proportionate but they can utilize some softmaxxing methods such as cosmetic procedures or gymmaxing to get decent looking body, but this does not matter for them it is not necessary for HTN to workout to be attractive because they are already attractive and the face card can save them when being skinny or slightly fat. Of course being straight up fat will mask your features so just generally "slightly fat". Again it is not necessary for HTN to make too much changes to themselves, and if they do it is solely for the purpose to ascend to Chadlite.
Ascending to straight up Chad, is purely genetic if you do not have a wide prominent skull, thick bones, and huge frame it will be very difficult for HTN to ascend to Chad.
Chadlite.
We are moving on to top top tier people, they have perfect symmetrical face, prominent features and healthy proportionate tall body. (It is pretty much impossible to reach this level with surgeries, this is purely genetics)
They most definitely can reach true chads if they build big frame and just generally be very masculine.
Chad
Chads basically are mythological creatures, they not only have a killer card face but very dense bones and usually physically ripped.
Like chadlite it is impossible to be Chad if you are not genetically gifted.
For example:
Now I hope you learnt how to accurately rate someone, and hopefully you will be going on with your journey to help others with this information. Or just fix unnecessary insecurities of yourself and precisely measure and calculate what to change to ascend! Always remember be very realistic when it comes to looksmaxxing, know expectations know what you can do and what you can not do. (Could not add more examples 25 attachment restriction
