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zemult said:
Definitely. One of your main flaws is a bloated lower third, which should be resolved just by losing fat (make sure you're actually lean btw, this doesn't look like 11% bf).

If for some reason you are actually lean, you should look into masseter botox.
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Alright, gonna try it out! Can I train to do masseter exercises tho? Or this botox is just to debloat? Like I can reach what, high htn? Thanks bro!
 
thales20 said:
Alright, gonna try it out! Can I train to do masseter exercises tho? Or this botox is just to debloat? Like I can reach what, high htn? Thanks bro!
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A higher HTN yeah, not sure about high HTN because your midface caps you a bit unfortunately.

I would recommend stopping masseter exercises, your jaw is already sufficiently wide enough and it will just serve to bloat your face more.

I have a suspicion that your masseter muscle is overbuilt which is causing the bloated look actually, if you're actually lean.
 
gangiewangie said:
why do you look fat at 11% bf
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I think its wrong this thing. Because tbf i didnt recieve the email telling me my stats at the gym. I was looking at it with my friend (which works there) and then he said i am 11% bf, but he think its wrong too. Because it doesnt make sense, i bulk a lot and dont do cardio. Hope its not bone structure lol
 
Masseter botox will serve to relax your masseter muscle and hopefully resolve the bloated look
 
zemult said:
A higher HTN yeah, not sure about high HTN because your midface caps you a bit unfortunately.

I would recommend stopping masseter exercises, your jaw is already sufficiently wide enough and it will just serve to bloat your face more.

I have a suspicion that your masseter muscle is overbuilt which is causing the bloated look actually, if you're actually lean.
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Got it. What would be the problem in my mid face? And can i solve it with some hardmax or stuff like that?
 
zemult said:
Masseter botox will serve to relax your masseter muscle and hopefully resolve the bloated look
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Oh i thought it was the oposite lol, thought it was like a filler or something
 
thales20 said:
I think its wrong this thing. Because tbf i didnt recieve the email telling me my stats at the gym. I was looking at it with my friend (which works there) and then he said i am 11% bf, but he think its wrong too. Because it doesnt make sense, i bulk a lot and dont do cardio. Hope its not bone structure lol
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yeah, you look to be 15% bf+. really bloated aswell. or it might just be bone structure. even if bone structure is mediocre, which I really doubt it is, you're still fine cuz ur htn.
 
zemult said:
Masseter botox will serve to relax your masseter muscle and hopefully resolve the bloated look
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And just two more questions if its not a problem. HTN would be like what in facial rating? Like a 7? and which % would that be?
 
gangiewangie said:
yeah, you look to be 15% bf+. really bloated aswell. or it might just be bone structure. even if bone structure is mediocre, which I really doubt it is, you're still fine cuz ur htn.
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I said the same thing to my friend lol, i think im at 15-16%, it wouldnt make sense. Thanks bro!
 
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thales20 said:
Oh i thought it was the oposite lol, thought it was like a filler or something
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I'll leave this to you so you can keep in mind:

Your bigonial/jaw width is within the 94-98% range in these pictures.

Keep in mind, the ideal range for the bigonial is 88-92%. A bigonial like 83% would be considered narrow for example, and one like 96% is considered too wide.

If the problem isn't the fat, your masseters are likely causing your jaw to look bloated, which masseter botox can help resolve. If that's not the case, it'd be bone structure. But I have doubts with that considering a wide jaw bone would look more sharp.
 
Completely stop the masseter jaw exercises is the firs s
 
Completely stop the masseter jaw exercises is the first step ^ Only seems to hurt atm
 
zemult said:
I'll leave this to you so you can keep in mind:

Your bigonial/jaw width is within the 94-98% range in these pictures.

Keep in mind, the ideal range for the bigonial is 88-92%. A bigonial like 83% would be considered narrow for example, and one like 96% is considered too wide.

If the problem isn't the fat, your masseters are likely causing your jaw to look bloated, which masseter botox can help resolve. If that's not the case, it'd be bone structure. But I have doubts with that considering a wide jaw bone would look more sharp.
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Got it, i'm going to search about prices and try it. Thanks for the advice!
 
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good looking tbh
 
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@zemult, got a picture that highlights better my bone structure (somehow i still fucked up my eye area, but i think its just angle tbf and i wasnt relaxing my eye in the day). Does it seems its the masseter the problem or would it be another thing? Also is my cheekbone high or low? i dont understand what i should consider to see if its high or low
 
High mtn, lose 5 kgs and stop squinting, hunter eyes is overrated
Try buzzcutt it would fit on you
Mid htn potential easy reachable with better hair and far losing
 
Leomorass said:
High mtn, lose 5 kgs and stop squinting, hunter eyes is overrated
Try buzzcutt it would fit on you
Mid htn potential easy reachable with better hair and far losing
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Thanks bro! I actually dont squint. These are natural, I posted other photos with him relaxed. With some surgeries or fillers can i get higher?
 
thales20 said:
Thanks bro! I actually dont squint. These are natural, I posted other photos with him relaxed. With some surgeries or fillers can i get higher?
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Forget about it. you are already above average and you dont have facial problems, lose some kgs and find an optimum hairstyle to fit you with your barber
 
Leomorass said:
Forget about it. you are already above average and you dont have facial problems, lose some kgs and find an optimum hairstyle to fit you with your barber
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Alright, thanks!
 
Htn with the height
 
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