Ratios are an utter cope

[Jason Voorhees]

In general ratios are a terrible way of measuring the harmony of your face. Unless your ratios deviate far from the norm they are borderline meaningless.

Ian Somerhalder has a death tier FWHR of 1.74 and Midface ratio of 0.82 but his face still looks sufficiently wide and compacf

Ratios actually mean fuck all. It's how those ratios fit in relation to ur skull and features that matter. Its called facial harmony. Sommerhalder has narrow IPD and long midface which is off set by his long positive eyebrows,wide mouth,
ridiculous jaw flare and small nose.

Zayn Malik is another example. He has subhuman 58-59mm IPD and a horrible es ratio which is offset by his small skull and long pfl. It's not just a few ratios that determine everything in the face. Efron, Lowe all have below average-sub par ratios.Zac Efron has 58.7mm ipd and 0.41 es ratio and he still manages to be chad.

On the other hand here is someone with almost perfect ratios

His IPD, ES ratio, Lip width and FWHR are all in the ideal ranges but his skull still looks narrow and face unimpressive because of his features. Having unique and striking features is way important than having muh good ratios.

Good features/bones>>>>Good ratios

So please my dear autists stop measuring your face with calipers and making threads asking users if they are ideal because the truth is the facial harmony and beauty is way too complex to be quantified and limited to a few measurements and facial landmarks.

 

[Looks234]

 

[Deleted member 21863]

going by fwhr Jack Ma is the most attractive man on the planet

 

[Jason Voorhees]

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[User49]

Retard

you’re looking at one ratio in isolation. somerhalders ratios overall aren’t that bad

also angles matter too

 

[Deleted member 24444]

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Reacted to all your posts here

 

[Deleted member 19798]

What did Sommerhalder do, his face actually looked long when he was younger

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Retard

you’re looking at one ratio in isolation. somerhalders ratios overall aren’t that bad

His midface, IPD, FWHR, upper lip to lower lip, Chin to philtrum, ESR and EME are all below average

 

[User49]

u posted someone with “ideal ratios” and his es is literally 0.505

what a stupid nigger you are

 

[dimorphism]

going by fwhr Jack Ma is the most attractive man on the planet

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Jacku Ma

 

[User49]

His midface, IPD, FWHR, his upper lip to lower lip, Chin to philtrum, ESR and EME are all below average

can’t remember off the top of my head all his ratios and angles but they’re well above average. combine this with favorable phenotype, strong dimorphism and low bodyfat and he’s gonna be good loooking

 

[dimorphism]

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Care to share the software?

 

[User49]

Delete this post it’s not too late

 

[Orc]

even I'm not autistic enough to quantify attraction by numbers.

attraction is mostly harmony.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

u posted someone with “ideal ratios” and his es is literally 0.505

what a stupid nigger you are

IPD: 54.86mm (average from 3 pictures i used - u can find them below)
Pupil-lip ratio: 61.98mm
Total midface lenght (brows to lip): 67.25mm
Midface ratio: 0.885 (average from these 3 pictures)

 

[Looks234]

IPD: 54.86mm (average from 3 pictures i used - u can find them below)
Pupil-lip ratio: 61.98mm
Total midface lenght (brows to lip): 67.25mm
Midface ratio: 0.885 (average from these 3 pictures)


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Just use common sense bro. You can look at someone and see that their forehead is too big, eyes are too wide, face is too long and etc.

 

[User49]

IPD: 54.86mm (average from 3 pictures i used - u can find them below)
Pupil-lip ratio: 61.98mm
Total midface lenght (brows to lip): 67.25mm
Midface ratio: 0.885 (average from these 3 pictures)


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Somethalder is chadlite anyway but i already explained how he’s not bad looking due to other ratios

Why do you think there’s such huge deviation in midface ratio in good looking people? Because it’s not that meaningful for harmony
also it’s mainly due to his poor es that his midface ratio is bad, he covers up cheekbone width with his hairstyle so es looks better. Please use your brain nigger!

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Just use common sense bro. You can look at someone and see that their forehead is too big, eyes are too wide and etc.

That's what I'm trying to say with this thread. Your perception is more important than raw numbers.

 

[buckchadley31]

IPD: 54.86mm (average from 3 pictures i used - u can find them below)
Pupil-lip ratio: 61.98mm
Total midface lenght (brows to lip): 67.25mm
Midface ratio: 0.885 (average from these 3 pictures)


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You think he doesn't look good?

 

[KingBetaTut]

I have a theory that says you need ratios to be normie but bones to be mogger.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

You think he doesn't look good?

He does. He is a gigachad I'm just saying raw numbers and ratios are not very important

IPD/ES RATIO/EME ANGLE is borderline meaningless for harmony

IPD, ESRATIO and EME angle have a moderate impact at best on facial harmony. There are other major factors that impact the impression we get conscerning the eyes spacing on someones face, mostly EYEBROW SPACING and NASAL BRIDGE/NASION DEFINITION. I saw alot of people wondering how someone with...

looksmax.org

 

[Looks234]

That's what I'm trying to say with this thread. Your perception is more important than raw numbers.

Numbers=perception

Put all the bitches you find good looking side by side and see how their ratios are similar

 

[Mouthbreath]

That's what I'm trying to say with this thread. Your perception is more important than raw numbers.

I'm convinced you can quantify beauty with high accuracy, it's just a little more complicated than measuring one or two ratios. The question is also, why do you need to do that? A lot of these ratios you can't really change apart from a lefort 3.

 

[Deleted member 26678]

even I'm not autistic enough to quantify attraction by numbers.

attraction is mostly harmony.

Ratios actually mean fuck all. It's how those ratios fit in relation to ur skull and features that matter. Its called facial harmony.

facial harmony is not some magic unexplainable phenomenon lmfao facial harmony is just how many ratios and angles that a face is in within the ideal of

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Numbers=perception

Put all the bitches you find good looking side by side and see how their ratios are similar

Yes. The ideal ratios give you a good idea but they are not the end all be all. You can still have a very harmonious face with unideal ratios if they aren't too bad.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

facial harmony is not some magic unexplainable phenomenon lmfao facial harmony is just how many ratios and angles that a face is in within the ideal of

No it's not some magic unexplainable phenomenon. I just explained how Ian and Zayn manage to have harmonious faces in the OP but it's not limited to a few ratios and angles.

 

[User49]

Yes. The ideal ratios give you a good idea but they are not the end all be all. You can still have a very harmonious face with unideal ratios if they aren't too bad.

Name someone with bad ratios/angles that is good looking

 

[Bashan]

FWHR is such a cope I'm caging when people talk about it. Unless giga narrow


I do believe in other ratios tho.

 

[Deleted member 17531]

Ratios aint suckin my nuts so idc

 

[the BULL]

IPD: 54.86mm (average from 3 pictures i used - u can find them below)
Pupil-lip ratio: 61.98mm
Total midface lenght (brows to lip): 67.25mm
Midface ratio: 0.885 (average from these 3 pictures)


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you don't need to score perfect in every ratio. his ratios are good enough. plus most of his appeal it's his eye area

 

[the BULL]

FWHR is such a cope I'm caging when people talk about it. Unless giga narrow


I do believe in other ratios tho.

not a cope anymore when you get intimidated by wide faced beasts

 

[forevermirin]

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[Bashan]

not a cope anymore when you get intimidated by wide faced beasts

It can halo you sometimes but it's a cope as a rule. What I mean is that there are much much more important things to worry about. I have a ''decent FWHR'' I just view it as a meme

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Name someone with bad ratios/angles that is good looking

I just did. Most celebrities don't have ideal ratios. Efron, Lowe, Malik, Nozka, Ballou, Leto. The list goes on...

 

[Jason Voorhees]

you don't need to score perfect in every ratio. his ratios are good enough. plus most of his appeal it's his eye area

That's what I'm saying in this thread

 

[the BULL]

It can halo you sometimes but it's a cope as a rule. What I mean is that there are much much more important things to worry about. I have a ''decent FWHR'' I just view it as a meme

you need a shitton of things. variance in humans is so high it's laughable.

 

[User49]

I just did. Most celebrities don't have ideal ratios. Efron, Lowe, Malik, Nozka, Ballou, Leto. The list goes on...

Wrong

You’re just looking at 2-3 ratios and assuming that most of their ratios/angles are bad

I can’t be bothered to measure all of those dudes but you’re wrong

 

[the BULL]

That's what I'm saying in this thread

yes but they can't be "cope", if he had narrow temples and jaw he would be a nobody. he looks good also because his ratios are good

 

[User49]

yes but they can't be "cope", if he had narrow temples and jaw he would be a nobody. he looks good also because his ratios are good

+ top tier pheno, angular jaw and high dimorphism

 

[Deleted member 17872]

Zac Efron has 58.7mm ipd and 0.41 es ratio and he still manages to be chad.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Wrong

You’re just looking at 2-3 ratios and assuming that most of their ratios/angles are bad

I can’t be bothered to measure all of those dudes but you’re wrong

Yes, that's what I've been trying to say. All your ratios need not be perfect. They just shouldn't deviate far from the norm.

 

[User49]

Yes, that's what I've been trying to say. All your ratios need not be perfect. They just shouldn't deviate far from the norm.

But the most attractive faces have close to ideal ratios

Like cavill, chico and meeks almost have perfect ratios/angles

ratios aren’t just es and midface too bruv

 

[Acne Victim]

Wtf is this measurement? He doesn't have a 0.82 midface ratio, u crazy nigga?

 

[Jason Voorhees]

But the most attractive faces have close to ideal ratios

Like cavill, chico and meeks almost have perfect ratios/angles

ratios aren’t just es and midface too bruv

Cavill and Chico have ideal ratios yes but a few of Meek's ratios are off.

Hexum's IPD is bit narrow from the average

Jason Lewis's midface is longer than average

Kakonge's eyes are too wide

 

[Deleted member 17872]

Yes, that's what I've been trying to say. All your ratios need not be perfect. They just shouldn't deviate far from the norm.

Who said all your ratios need to be perfect?

 

[User49]

Cavill and Chico have ideal ratios yes but a few of Meek's ratios are off.
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Hexum's IPD is bit narrow from the average

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Jason Lewis's midface is longer than average

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Kakonge's eyes are too wide

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HAHAHAHHAAH i actually laughed

meeks has basically perfect ratios and angles only a few unideal ones

Ratios are a range, hexums eye spacing is ideal

ye jason midface is a bit longer than ideal, not a big deal most of his ratios are ideal

last one about kakonges is fucking retarded niggers have wider es than caucasians jfl

 

[Artemis]

In general ratios are a terrible way of measuring the harmony of your face. Unless your ratios deviate far from the norm they are borderline meaningless.

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Ian Somerhalder has a death tier FWHR of 1.74 and Midface ratio of 0.82 but his face still looks sufficiently wide and compacf

Ratios actually mean fuck all. It's how those ratios fit in relation to ur skull and features that matter. Its called facial harmony. Sommerhalder has narrow IPD and long midface which is off set by his long positive eyebrows,wide mouth,
ridiculous jaw flare and small nose.


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Zayn Malik is another example. He has subhuman 58-59mm IPD and a horrible es ratio which is offset by his small skull and long pfl. It's not just a few ratios that determine everything in the face. Efron, Lowe all have below average-sub par ratios.Zac Efron has 58.7mm ipd and 0.41 es ratio and he still manages to be chad.

On the other hand here is someone with almost perfect ratios

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His IPD, ES ratio, Lip width and FWHR are all in the ideal ranges but his skull still looks narrow and face unimpressive because of his features. Having unique and striking features is way important than having muh good ratios.

Good features/bones>>>>Good ratios

So please my dear autists stop measuring your face with calipers and making threads asking users if they are ideal because the truth is the facial harmony and beauty is way too complex to be quantified and limited to a few measurements and facial landmarks.

Dude, there is NOTHING WORSE than bad ratios.

Because ratios are literally like HALF of the harmony. And HARMONY >>> ALL.

Lol, tell him about "ratios do not matter":

es-ratio...

 

[Deleted member 25938]

going by fwhr Jack Ma is the most attractive man on the planet

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No FWHR for that neurocranium.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

But the most attractive faces have close to ideal ratios

Like cavill, chico and meeks almost have perfect ratios/angles

ratios aren’t just es and midface too bruv

Features can influence how your ratios are perceived on the face. Just look at these pics

 

[User49]

Features can influence how your ratios are perceived on the face. Just look at these pics

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yep, es ratio can kinda be frauded through either covering cheekbones with hair (look at barrett for example) or trying to get longer brows