Ratios are an utter cope

[Jason Voorhees]

yep, es ratio can kinda be frauded through either covering cheekbones with hair (look at barrett for example) or trying to get longer brows

We are the same page then. What are you arguing about you dense mofo.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

HAHAHAHHAAH i actually laughed

meeks has basically perfect ratios and angles only a few unideal ones

Ratios are a range, hexums eye spacing is ideal

His eye spacing looks ideal because of his brows but they are not.

ye jason midface is a bit longer than ideal, not a big deal most of his ratios are ideal

Again it doesn't look bad because of his jaw

last one about kakonges is fucking retarded niggers have wider es than caucasians jfl

Exactly. Blacks have wider IPDs which is normal for them and doesn't deviate far from the norm

 

[Lawton88]

Dude, there is NOTHING WORSE than bad ratios.

Because ratios are literally like HALF of the harmony. And HARMONY >>> ALL.

Lol, tell him about "ratios do not matter":

es-ratio...

Death tier IPD and due to having a narrow top of nose bridge his eyebrows cant save him. I have seen a few people with just a little wider IPD than him be saved by a prominent top of nose bridge and eyebrows though.

 

[User49]

We are the same page then. What are you arguing about you dense mofo.

No you’re acting like es ratio and midfaceare the only ratios that matters

anyway by frauding you’re making those ratios be perceived better, which is what matters a lot

if you’re actual lower third is small relative to facial height and midface, you can’t really fraud it

you can’t fraud unideal gonial angle

bigonial width

etc

 

[User49]

His eye spacing looks ideal because of his brows but they are not.

Not on pc but i heavily doubt his eye spacing isn’t ideal

 

[Deleted member 21700]

No way their IPD measurements are that small. Mine is 6.4cm as measured by doctor, looks just proportional and I have one of the smallest faces I have ever seen in reality. Defo smaller than Zayn's for that matter. These peeps just have ginormous heads making their IPD look closer set.

 

[oldcell]

Ratios is most important factor

Balanced thirds means beauty by default

Ratios > features

Good ratios make u generic GL with broad appeal

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Es ratio and IPD are generally considered to be the most important measurements. Since they form the inner 'U' of the face

No you’re acting like es ratio and midfaceare the only ratios that matters

anyway by frauding you’re making those ratios be perceived better, which is what matters a lot

if you’re actual lower third is small relative to facial height and midface, you can’t really fraud it

you can’t fraud unideal gonial angle

bigonial width

etc

 

[User49]

Es ratio and IPD are generally considered to be the most important measurements. Since they form the inner 'U' of the face

ye es ratio is very important if u deviate too far u can prob never be gl. for example
there isn’t a single gl person with wide set eyes. closer set eyes are possible
for
men tho

 

[sub5inchcel]

how is zayns ipd bad? He is shorter so a smaller ipd is sufficient

 

[FrenchChad]

ye es ratio is very important if u deviate too far u can prob never be gl. for example
there isn’t a single gl person with wide set eyes. closer set eyes are possible
for
men tho

What ?
There is infinitely more attractive people with wide-set eyes/wide ipd than with close-set eyes/narrow ipd.

Note : Young Barrett was on the higher side of the ES before fillers and O'pry have 69mm IPD (dolphin measurement) and a very high intercantal distance (almost two eyeball apart !).

Most psl gods who are praised by everyone here have relatively wide IPD, there is much more outliers above 0.47 than below 0.43.
Not even mentioning that closer-set eyes makes the midface appear longer which have a more negative effect on overall harmony.

 

[User49]

What ?
There is infinitely more attractive people with wide-set eyes/wide ipd than with close-set eyes.
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Note : Young Barrett was on the higher side of the ES before fillers and O'pry have 69mm IPD (dolphin measurement) and a very high intercantal distance (almost two eyeball apart !).

Most psl gods who are praised by everyone here have relatively wide IPD, there is much more outliers above 0.47 than below 0.43.
Not even mentioning that closer-set eyes makes the midface appear longer which have a more negative effect on overall harmony.

meeks has 0.46 es
o pry has high icd but wide face offsets it so his es is 0.46-0.47

barrett’s face is too wide which makes his es 0.44
gandy has 0.48 or something but his icd is fine because his medial pfl is so long

and reminder

and close set imo is 0.45

but 0.46 mogs all

 

[Deleted member 16275]

Ah, yes, the classic 'exceptions disprove the rule' stupidity.
Delete shit thread OP you're a mod

 

[Deleted member 16275]

Also how the fuck is 1.74 FWHR death tier?

 

[FrenchChad]

meeks has 0.46 es
o pry has high icd but wide face offsets it so his es is 0.46-0.47

barrett’s face is too wide which makes his es 0.44
gandy has 0.48 or something but his icd is fine because his medial pfl is so long

and reminder
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and close set imo is 0.45

but 0.46 mogs all

I insisted on intercantal distance because it offsets the effect of the es ratio to the human eye at some extent.
O'pry's eyes still look decently wide from front, his bizygo doesn't totally offset his very high icd :

Barret on the pic that i have linked have around 0.49
Here is a morph with 0.45 of him :

Both Dellisola and Konstantinyos have a ICD higher than one eye apart, and they both looks insanely good.
Bonus :

Oh and by the way all of them have abive average ipd.
So saying that "there isn't any gl mens with wide-set eyes" is absolutely cope, sure 0.46 ESR is ideal but the PSL penalty from having a ESR higher than 0.47 is much more low than the one from having a esr lower than 0.45 (and close-set really start at 0.44 imo, 0.45 looks normal usually).

As for the importance of the ICD this is why thecel despite having the same (doesn't remind the exact measurement but it was sub 0.42) esr as marko jaric doesn't look as bad.

Both offlines and irl i have seen much more attractive people with wide-set eyes (they often look high iq and can look sometimes exotic) than with close-set eyes.
To be honest i don't know any cyclops who slay but i know few legit dolphins who manage to do well with girls.

 

[Deleted member 23157]

It does not matter if you have great features but it matter if you dont have them.. for exmp Longmidface looks bad if you dont have wide jaw support. Those longfaced boneless dudes would benefit from smaller midface. Good midface ratios will never cuck you.

 

[User49]

I insisted on intercantal distance because it offsets the effect of the es ratio to the human eye at some extent.
O'pry's eyes still look decently wide from front, his bizygo doesn't totally offset his very high icd : View attachment 2209806
Barret on the pic that i have linked have around 0.49
Here is a morph with 0.45 of him : View attachment 2209799
Both Dellisola and Konstantinyos have a ICD higher than one eye apart, and they both looks insanely good.
Bonus : View attachment 2209814

Oh and by the way all of them have abive average ipd.
So saying that "there isn't any gl mens with wide-set eyes" is absolutely cope, sure 0.46 ESR is ideal but the PSL penalty from having a ESR higher than 0.47 is much more low than the one from having a esr lower than 0.45 (and close-set really start at 0.44 imo, 0.45 looks normal usually).

As for the importance of the ICD this is why thecel despite having the same (doesn't remind the exact measurement but it was sub 0.42) esr as marko jaric doesn't look as bad.
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Both offlines and irl i have seen much more attractive people with wide-set eyes (they often look high iq and can look sometimes exotic) than with close-set eyes.
To be honest i don't know any cyclops who slay but i know few legit dolphins who manage to do well with girls.

o pry icd is still a flaw and when u change ipd only medial pfl is still the same so it looks fucked

 

[FrenchChad]

o pry icd is still a flaw and when u change ipd only medial pfl is still the same so it looks fucked

Maybe, but not a flaw that prevent him from being good looking (in fact it contributes to his uniqueness although he would look better with a lower ICD) as you suggested in the message that i was answering to.
Yes you're right for the morph, even with a lower pfl it would look less appealing tho

 

[lilhorizontal32]

Shit thread. Sounds like you’ve lost the plot

 

[lilhorizontal32]

There are so many ratios that you didn’t consider even features such as a shit hairline can be converted to ratios if you are smart enough. The face is purely ratios and can be broken down mathematically

 

[Crimson]

In general ratios are a terrible way of measuring the harmony of your face. Unless your ratios deviate far from the norm they are borderline meaningless.

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Ian Somerhalder has a death tier FWHR of 1.74 and Midface ratio of 0.82 but his face still looks sufficiently wide and compacf

Ratios actually mean fuck all. It's how those ratios fit in relation to ur skull and features that matter. Its called facial harmony. Sommerhalder has narrow IPD and long midface which is off set by his long positive eyebrows,wide mouth,
ridiculous jaw flare and small nose.


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Zayn Malik is another example. He has subhuman 58-59mm IPD and a horrible es ratio which is offset by his small skull and long pfl. It's not just a few ratios that determine everything in the face. Efron, Lowe all have below average-sub par ratios.Zac Efron has 58.7mm ipd and 0.41 es ratio and he still manages to be chad.

On the other hand here is someone with almost perfect ratios

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His IPD, ES ratio, Lip width and FWHR are all in the ideal ranges but his skull still looks narrow and face unimpressive because of his features. Having unique and striking features is way important than having muh good ratios.

Good features/bones>>>>Good ratios

So please my dear autists stop measuring your face with calipers and making threads asking users if they are ideal because the truth is the facial harmony and beauty is way too complex to be quantified and limited to a few measurements and facial landmarks.

I agree 80% but ESR has a significant impact and to me the most (and probably only important) BY FAR is facial thirds, it greatly affects the look your face gives, the other ones are probably cope tier