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Primal diet is cope mark solution u wont ascend or get healthier
 
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istghaha said:
what's yall's opinions on raw bovine colostrum?
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its cope, all the growth hormone that everyone says is inside bovine cant help you cus ur stomach breaks the proteins down, i'd personally still buy it, its slightly healthier as long as its from a good farm.
 
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Dewhey321 said:
its cope, all the growth hormone that everyone says is inside bovine cant help you cus ur stomach breaks the proteins down, i'd personally still buy it, its slightly healthier as long as its from a good farm.
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people either dont understand it or think too much of it, the growth hormones do their work in your gut, they do not get absorbed to your bloodstream and work like normal growth hormones of course but still has some benefits on gut health and not to talk about vitamin levels and the amount of protein it has, and no our stomach doesnt breaks down all the growth hormones or proteins, well not all of it, specifically its something called bovine trypsin inhibitors aka BTI and the proteins itself aka IgG igf-1 and TGF-B can pass through the our stomach intact, of course still not the same effect as having growth hormones in your bloodstream but saying "our stomach breaks down proteins and growth hormones on the colostrum" isnt accurate fully
 
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and not to say if the growth hormones that you get from colostrum were to instead get into your bloodstream that would be a problem overtime because of having too much growth hormones
 
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its healthy, but i dont think you want to drink it because youre trying to be healthy.
let me tell you bud, it will not fix recession and it wont make you taller.
 
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istghaha said:
people either dont understand it or think too much of it, the growth hormones do their work in your gut, they do not get absorbed to your bloodstream and work like normal growth hormones of course but still has some benefits on gut health and not to talk about vitamin levels and the amount of protein it has, and no our stomach doesnt breaks down all the growth hormones or proteins, well not all of it, specifically its something called bovine trypsin inhibitors aka BTI and the proteins itself aka IgG igf-1 and TGF-B can pass through the our stomach intact, of course still not the same effect as having growth hormones in your bloodstream but saying "our stomach breaks down proteins and growth hormones on the colostrum" isnt accurate fully
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not only does basically all of the growth hormone, as its a large protein get destroyed, but bovine growth hormone doesnt bind to human gh receptors https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S001457930001454X?utm_source=chatgpt.com , first paragraph of the abstract
 
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istghaha said:
people either dont understand it or think too much of it, the growth hormones do their work in your gut, they do not get absorbed to your bloodstream and work like normal growth hormones of course but still has some benefits on gut health and not to talk about vitamin levels and the amount of protein it has, and no our stomach doesnt breaks down all the growth hormones or proteins, well not all of it, specifically its something called bovine trypsin inhibitors aka BTI and the proteins itself aka IgG igf-1 and TGF-B can pass through the our stomach intact, of course still not the same effect as having growth hormones in your bloodstream but saying "our stomach breaks down proteins and growth hormones on the colostrum" isnt accurate fully
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tgb-b and bti are also proteins, they will be broken down in the stomach when ingested orally
 
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Dewhey321 said:
not only does basically all of the growth hormone, as its a large protein get destroyed, but bovine growth hormone doesnt bind to human gh receptors https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S001457930001454X?utm_source=chatgpt.com , first paragraph of the abstract
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The growth hormones that cant bind to human receptors that are mentioned in that page is bovine growth hormone. Growth hormones like IGF-1 and TGF-B can still bind to human receptors strongly. If we are talking about bovine GH not binding then you are right but IGF-1 and TGF-B can bind to human receptors
 
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Dewhey321 said:
tgb-b and bti are also proteins, they will be broken down in the stomach when ingested orally
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Only the ones that didnt bind to any receptors. The ones thats bind to a receptor wont be broken down into basic amino acids
 
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istghaha said:
The growth hormones that cant bind to human receptors that are mentioned in that page is bovine growth hormone. Growth hormones like IGF-1 and TGF-B can still bind to human receptors strongly. If we are talking about bovine GH not binding then you are right but IGF-1 and TGF-B can bind to human receptors
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protein is protein, majority of tgf-b will be broken down and it wont be enough to cause a systemic difference
 
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istghaha said:
Only the ones that didnt bind to any receptors. The ones thats bind to a receptor wont be broken down into basic amino acids
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??? all of the hormones/growth factors weve discussed are broken down, as theyre all proteins
 
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Dewhey321 said:
protein is protein, majority of tgf-b will be broken down and it wont be enough to cause a systemic difference
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nobody says just drinking raw bovine colostrum will make you superhuman and cause you to get so much more taller or something like that. It will still have some benefits to some degree, but your saying of them just being broken down isnt correct, and BTI is the thing that protects the nutritions and growth hormones against our stomach so they can survive long enough for them to bind to receptors but not all of them and in nowhere did I say all of them bind to the receptors, its true that some of them just get broken down since they didnt bind to any receptors
 
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onfoenem said:
its healthy, but i dont think you want to drink it because youre trying to be healthy.
let me tell you bud, it will not fix recession and it wont make you taller.
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In nowhere did I say was it gonna fix my imaginary recession or make me taller lmao, but it would make you more healthier I dont know what you are on about that. If you mean it wont make someone whos eating junk all day healthier than you are right, but its a good addition to a diet even with just protein and vitamin wise
 
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istghaha said:
nobody says just drinking raw bovine colostrum will make you superhuman and cause you to get so much more taller or something like that. It will still have some benefits to some degree, but your saying of them just being broken down isnt correct, and BTI is the thing that protects the nutritions and growth hormones against our stomach so they can survive long enough for them to bind to receptors but not all of them and in nowhere did I say all of them bind to the receptors, its true that some of them just get broken down since they didnt bind to any receptors
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itll have no difference bro, it only gives you some more vitamin b and c, which pasteurization destorys, hence raw bovine, and no bti is being mostly destroyed idk what to tell you bro, pinning real hgh ( bypassing the stomach ) hardly gives enough growth effects, what do you think the 0.1 percent that bypasses of bovines doing 😭, focusing on other things that make a meaningful difference would be better, like collagen from bone marrow
 
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istghaha said:
In nowhere did I say was it gonna fix my imaginary recession or make me taller lmao, but it would make you more healthier I dont know what you are on about that. If you mean it wont make someone whos eating junk all day healthier than you are right, but its a good addition to a diet even with just protein and vitamin wise
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never said its not healthy
 
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istghaha said:
In nowhere did I say was it gonna fix my imaginary recession or make me taller lmao, but it would make you more healthier I dont know what you are on about that. If you mean it wont make someone whos eating junk all day healthier than you are right, but its a good addition to a diet even with just protein and vitamin wise
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@Vrowding read what this guy has to say
 
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Dewhey321 said:
ur a waste of time keep consuming ur cope bovine doesnt affect me
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The scientific paper that you listed was about bovine GH not being able to bind to human receptors not IGF-1 and TGF-B how low iq are you?:lul: You should read it before even sending it to me
 
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Dewhey321 said:
realistically whats even ur argument, do you mind asking ur chatgpt if everything I mentioned gets destroyed or not?
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You are the one that started the "argument". You firstly said that our stomach breaks down all the proteins and growth hormones which is not true, some of them bind to your receptors and survive but yes the rest does get broken down I never said something like "all of them survive" so i dont know what you are on and about chatgpt as well, where did chatgpt come from? All I did was disprove your claims, I didnt call raw bovine colostrum a magic potion
 
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istghaha said:
The scientific paper that you listed was about bovine GH not being able to bind to human receptors not IGF-1 and TGF-B how low iq are you?:lul: You should read it before even sending it to me
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ur pretty stupid, the growth hormone study was meant to debunk the growth hormone arguments 🤯 igf-1 and tgf-b are both proteins, and theyll be broken down, and the 0.1 left will make no difference like I said about a million times
 
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istghaha said:
You are the one that started the "argument". You firstly said that our stomach breaks down all the proteins and growth hormones which is not true, some of them bind to your receptors and survive but yes the rest does get broken down I never said something like "all of them survive" so i dont know what you are on and about chatgpt as well, where did chatgpt come from? All I did was disprove your claims, I didnt call raw bovine colostrum a magic potion
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bovine isnt making a difference in ur health stop trying to justify it with ur sorry ass tgf-b
 
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istghaha said:
You are the one that started the "argument". You firstly said that our stomach breaks down all the proteins and growth hormones which is not true, some of them bind to your receptors and survive but yes the rest does get broken down I never said something like "all of them survive" so i dont know what you are on and about chatgpt as well, where did chatgpt come from? All I did was disprove your claims, I didnt call raw bovine colostrum a magic potion
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I said all because the remaining proteins arent enough to make a difference, whatever you got me, point is?
 
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Dewhey321 said:
ur pretty stupid, the growth hormone study was meant to debunk the growth hormone arguments 🤯 igf-1 and tgf-b are both proteins, and theyll be broken down, and the 0.1 left will make no difference like I said about a million times
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I didnt said it was gonna make that much of a difference... All I did was disprove your claim. You should firstly read what you are sending the link of since its talking about bovine growth hormone not being able to bind to human receptors NOT IGF-1 and TGF-B not being able to bind to human receptors
 
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istghaha said:
I didnt said it was gonna make that much of a difference... All I did was disprove your claim. You should firstly read what you are sending the link of since its talking about bovine growth hormone not being able to bind to human receptors NOT IGF-1 and TGF-B not being able to bind to human receptors
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dude I dont fucking care the point of my study was to show the bovine growth hormone when it was being mentioned at the start, you bailed from it ever since
 
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istghaha said:
I didnt said it was gonna make that much of a difference... All I did was disprove your claim. You should firstly read what you are sending the link of since its talking about bovine growth hormone not being able to bind to human receptors NOT IGF-1 and TGF-B not being able to bind to human receptors
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were both done here and can agree bovine doesnt do jack enough for ur health right?
 
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Dewhey321 said:
dude I dont fucking care the point of my study was to show the bovine growth hormone when it was being mentioned at the start, you bailed from it ever since
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Why did you even send it to begin with? In nowhere was bovine growth hormone was mentioned you low iq and I didnt bail from anything to begin with. Its not my fault that you are dumb
 
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istghaha said:
Why did you even send it to begin with? In nowhere was bovine growth hormone was mentioned you low iq and I didnt bail from anything to begin with. Its not my fault that you are dumb
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?? id guess that bovine growth hormone is mentioned when talking about the growth hormone in bovine??? were done here consume wtvr the fuck you want
 
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istghaha said:
Nope, it definitely has some health benefits even something like better gut health, you just expected too much benefits just from a drink I would say
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No it doesnt, it only contains some extra vitamins, which a multivitamin can get
 
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istghaha said:
Nope, it definitely has some health benefits even something like better gut health, you just expected too much benefits just from a drink I would say
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like why buy bovine when you can buy something that works like bone marrow in turn?
 
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Dewhey321 said:
?? id guess that bovine growth hormone is mentioned when talking about the growth hormone in bovine??? were done here consume wtvr the fuck you want
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We are talking about raw bovine colostrum not bovine. Bovine is a large, scientific family that includes cows, but also bison, buffalo, and yaks, by growth hormones inside the colostrum we are talking about IGF-1 and things like TGF-B
 
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istghaha said:
We are talking about raw bovine colostrum not bovine. Bovine is a large, scientific family that includes cows, but also bison, buffalo, and yaks, by growth hormones inside the colostrum we are talking about IGF-1 and things like TGF-B
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abbreviated, im not saying colostrum every time in this argument, we already know the subject bro, and still theyre all proteins, will be broken down. Ur just drinking glorified milk, that might help ur immune system but who cares about that
 
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istghaha said:
We are talking about raw bovine colostrum not bovine. Bovine is a large, scientific family that includes cows, but also bison, buffalo, and yaks, by growth hormones inside the colostrum we are talking about IGF-1 and things like TGF-B
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rep me bro
 
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istghaha said:
admit you were wrong nigga. You are the type of person that I hate the most, the ones who dont admit they are wrong
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youre wrong theres no debate about this lmao what are you tryna justify with ur tgf-b, it wont have any effect, ik ur not repping so im unrepping dumbass nigga
 
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