Raw meat- why it’s anti-scientific and anti-looksmaxing

[Aryan Incel]

Bookmarked brah, mirin hard

Thanks

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

I genuinely cant with raw meat copers.

Genuinely the most deluded group on the internet.

 

[Aryan Incel]

I genuinely cant with raw meat copers.

Genuinely the most deluded group on the internet.

Yeah they’re just retarded

 

[HighIQ ubermensch]

Based

 

[FlotPSL]

Agreed

Disagreed

Cant see any point in meat unless you wanna be a skinny bitch lol

 

[HighIQ ubermensch]

Gym

Imo the worst take of all the diet copers is that ‘gym is cope’. This is just pure retardation. I’ll keep this section short as it’s mostly water for any sane person, but for the goatis glazers there are 100’s of studies proving women prefer a muscular physique and dislike skinny ones.

https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/full/10.1098/rspb.2017.1819#d3e552
Just look at these transformations and decide for yourself if you’d rather be a skinny primal cuck or a roided unnatural Chad

These ain't just "GYM tranformations"

 

[HighIQ ubermensch]

Disagreed

Cant see any point in meat unless you wanna be a skinny bitch lol

Meat is super healthy & nutritious
Superior to any other foods

 

[FiendFiend]

Intro
In the last year or so a prominent figure has emerged into looksmaxxing Goatis. Full of cope and anti scientific opinions he has grown in the eyes of the greys and TikTokcels and with it a new niche Primal/ Natural Looksmaxxing. With his outrageous claims like you would’ve been a 6’6 giga Chad if you’d of just raw meat and being circle jerked by his cult like followers it is now thought of being true especially on the more basic looksmaxxing areas (mostly YT and TT) but his reach has even begun to come here to this forum. Today I will prove why raw meat is cope and in most cases anti scientific and utter nonsense for looksmaxxing.

Bone growth disproved
Let’s go on with a point that many raw meat copers say ‘raw meat will make you grow bones bro’. This is a common point that 99% of raw meat enthusiasts say but it can be easily disproven with this study.

View attachment 4195919

Spoiler: Study

https://www.binasss.sa.cr/nov23/56.pdf

It shows that your development of your skull/ bonemass is already finished before you’re 15 for the most part. This means even if raw meat could increase bonemass it would be useless unless you’re <15.

This is because once your skull bones fuse it’s impossible to grow them.

Now even if you have raw meat through puberty it’s not a guarantee of bones as they are mainly affected by genes (90-95%) ,

Which is why these people who ate raw meat there whole life are boneless and recessed, which should be impossible by Goatis’s logic.

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Sunlight
‘Sunscreen won’t age you bro it’s just your diet bro’. This is a comedic cope that some retarded primal diet ‘looksmaxxers’ are promoting. And it’s just entirely anti science.

Well to start off the sun is harmful because it produces harmful UV rays which can’t be blocked effectively unless you use sunscreen.

These UV rays have been PROVEN to rapidly age the skin.

Spoiler: Study

National Institutes of Health (NIH) | (.gov)https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.govUltraviolet Radiation, Aging and the Skin: Prevention of Damage by ...

Spoiler: picture of two twins one wore sunscreen, one didn’t can you guess which is which?

View attachment 4195936

Then a usual response from a primal diet copers is that removing linoleic acid (seed oils) would stop the sun damage. Some studies prove that they can worsen sun damage minimally but some show that it does the opposite and conflict

Spoiler: Study

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11476445/#:~:text=These results suggest that LA,induced oxidative and inflammatory damage.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3569884/#:~:text=This points to a role,, especially melanoma [22].

Another cope some primal people make is that ‘you don’t understand the biology of it bro’ however there is little to no evidence to show this would be the case using biochemistry, even if it was (which it isn’t but I’m being theoretical here just in case a random goatis glazer says it is whilst not siting a study ) the evidence of this theory gets brutally mogged by the overwhelming number of META analysis studies proving that the sun ages you.

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Now if you’re still not convinced that the sun will age here are some pics from anti seed oil and pro meat advocates

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Strict diet for many decades just to have older looking skin than a 90 year old monk who hasn’t gotten any sun in his life

View attachment 4195929

Spoiler: Average 90 year old btw so you can compare

View attachment 4195927

Kcal in kcal out
Another outrageous claim these primal clowns make is that kcal don’t exist and have no effect in humans.

A kcal is the chemical energy stored in food. Yes a calorie is technically a measure of the amount of energy required to heat a gram of water of 1 degree Celsius. But in food it’s potential energy that can transform into another type of energy when we break it down. For those who don’t get it think of a loudspeaker , we put in electrical energy and it produces sound. A kcal is like that, we take in potential energy (through consuming food) and can use it to produce other forms of energy like kinetic (movement) through the law of conservation of energy. This is fucking basic biology and physics that these low iq primal people forget to add or they are just too stupid to know.

Another thing they’ll say is “calories aren’t accurate”. Yes this statement is somewhat true but is entirely overblown. Yes technically foods can be 20% over there calorie label but they just do this to prevent people suing them. Most studies agree on an around 4% higher than the stated value

Spoiler: Study

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3605747/

This means if you consumed 2000 kcal you’d actually consume 2040 calories instead . In all seriousness this will make minimal to no difference. There’s a reason why bodybuilders (and us as a society) have been using the kcal system for so long. It’s because it works pretty darn good.

And if you’re still not convinced that kcal are accurate let’s take a look at Face IQ the self proclaimed “debloat” master who eats over 3000 kcal daily to a random gymcel who counts his calories

Spoiler: I do raw primal how did you know

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Spoiler: I count my calories how did you know

View attachment 4195931

Hair Loss
Another retarded take from these primal copers is that eating this way will somehow cure hairloss . The theory goes that if you are nutrient deficient then you will lose hair, which is true. And if you are nutrient sufficient then you’ll keep your hair. Though this theory does hold some truth it has many holes. First of all most people get sufficient nutrition to counter the hair loss from nutrient deficiency. And if they didn’t it would be an easy fix of adding a couple eggs to there diet to fix it and they wouldn’t need to go full primal to. Another thing that primal diet enthusiast forget to add is DHT effects on hair. Every man will suffer from some kind of Androgenic Alopecia, the amount of hairloss experienced from this is mostly due to genetics. The main hormone that affects this is DHT. This phase is the main cause of male pattern baldness.

Raw primal doesn’t decrease DHT so they won’t be able to fix this.

Also this would contradict the point that raw primal diet improves hormones. This is because if it was true then it would increase DHT which would make hair loss worse. So raw meat enthusiasts have to choose whether raw primal increases hormones and worsens hairloss or has no effect on hormones and improves hair loss. (Or neither ). Inb4 DHT affecting hairloss isn’t real and made up by the elites because Goatis said so.

Cholesterol
Cholesterol is a substance that has many important roles in the body. This is generally accepted but where the primal diet copers differ on is that they think high levels of cholesterol is actually beneficial . Like a lot of there claims it has zero scientific backing. I think there main argument is that it increases testosterone and the negatives are a myth and blame seed oils or something . Again this is not backed up by any real science and the opposition (anti high cholesterol side) has countless meta studies proving there point.

View attachment 4195925

This is probably one of the worst theories the raw meat community has and can have quite serious consequences. With many studies proving it can cause early mortality

Spoiler: Study

https://scholar.google.co.uk/schola...isig=AAZF9b_WdYDP39kziA5JI8rORSyD&oi=scholarr

I want to reemphasize that cholesterol in itself isn’t bad and has many benefits but it’s just high levels of it that is dangerous.

View attachment 4195917

Gym

Imo the worst take of all the diet copers is that ‘gym is cope’. This is just pure retardation. I’ll keep this section short as it’s mostly water for any sane person, but for the goatis glazers there are 100’s of studies proving women prefer a muscular physique and dislike skinny ones.

Spoiler: Study

https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/full/10.1098/rspb.2017.1819#d3e552

Just look at these transformations and decide for yourself if you’d rather be a skinny primal cuck or a roided unnatural Chad

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Conclusion

To end I want to leave you with some of the raw primal ‘transformations’ and you can decide if it’s really worth it

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Tagging
@Hernan @MaracasMogs @unon @Orka @HighIQ ubermensch

water.

but do make sure to give ur kid lots of raw dairy and feed him good. Raw dairy decides height and bones

 

[FiendFiend]

Intro
In the last year or so a prominent figure has emerged into looksmaxxing Goatis. Full of cope and anti scientific opinions he has grown in the eyes of the greys and TikTokcels and with it a new niche Primal/ Natural Looksmaxxing. With his outrageous claims like you would’ve been a 6’6 giga Chad if you’d of just raw meat and being circle jerked by his cult like followers it is now thought of being true especially on the more basic looksmaxxing areas (mostly YT and TT) but his reach has even begun to come here to this forum. Today I will prove why raw meat is cope and in most cases anti scientific and utter nonsense for looksmaxxing.

Bone growth disproved
Let’s go on with a point that many raw meat copers say ‘raw meat will make you grow bones bro’. This is a common point that 99% of raw meat enthusiasts say but it can be easily disproven with this study.

View attachment 4195919

Spoiler: Study

https://www.binasss.sa.cr/nov23/56.pdf

It shows that your development of your skull/ bonemass is already finished before you’re 15 for the most part. This means even if raw meat could increase bonemass it would be useless unless you’re <15.

This is because once your skull bones fuse it’s impossible to grow them.

Now even if you have raw meat through puberty it’s not a guarantee of bones as they are mainly affected by genes (90-95%) ,

Which is why these people who ate raw meat there whole life are boneless and recessed, which should be impossible by Goatis’s logic.

View attachment 4195920

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Sunlight
‘Sunscreen won’t age you bro it’s just your diet bro’. This is a comedic cope that some retarded primal diet ‘looksmaxxers’ are promoting. And it’s just entirely anti science.

Well to start off the sun is harmful because it produces harmful UV rays which can’t be blocked effectively unless you use sunscreen.

These UV rays have been PROVEN to rapidly age the skin.

Spoiler: Study

National Institutes of Health (NIH) | (.gov)https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.govUltraviolet Radiation, Aging and the Skin: Prevention of Damage by ...

Spoiler: picture of two twins one wore sunscreen, one didn’t can you guess which is which?

View attachment 4195936

Then a usual response from a primal diet copers is that removing linoleic acid (seed oils) would stop the sun damage. Some studies prove that they can worsen sun damage minimally but some show that it does the opposite and conflict

Spoiler: Study

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11476445/#:~:text=These results suggest that LA,induced oxidative and inflammatory damage.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3569884/#:~:text=This points to a role,, especially melanoma [22].

Another cope some primal people make is that ‘you don’t understand the biology of it bro’ however there is little to no evidence to show this would be the case using biochemistry, even if it was (which it isn’t but I’m being theoretical here just in case a random goatis glazer says it is whilst not siting a study ) the evidence of this theory gets brutally mogged by the overwhelming number of META analysis studies proving that the sun ages you.

View attachment 4195921

Now if you’re still not convinced that the sun will age here are some pics from anti seed oil and pro meat advocates

View attachment 4195918

View attachment 4195933

Strict diet for many decades just to have older looking skin than a 90 year old monk who hasn’t gotten any sun in his life

View attachment 4195929

Spoiler: Average 90 year old btw so you can compare

View attachment 4195927

Kcal in kcal out
Another outrageous claim these primal clowns make is that kcal don’t exist and have no effect in humans.

A kcal is the chemical energy stored in food. Yes a calorie is technically a measure of the amount of energy required to heat a gram of water of 1 degree Celsius. But in food it’s potential energy that can transform into another type of energy when we break it down. For those who don’t get it think of a loudspeaker , we put in electrical energy and it produces sound. A kcal is like that, we take in potential energy (through consuming food) and can use it to produce other forms of energy like kinetic (movement) through the law of conservation of energy. This is fucking basic biology and physics that these low iq primal people forget to add or they are just too stupid to know.

Another thing they’ll say is “calories aren’t accurate”. Yes this statement is somewhat true but is entirely overblown. Yes technically foods can be 20% over there calorie label but they just do this to prevent people suing them. Most studies agree on an around 4% higher than the stated value

Spoiler: Study

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3605747/

This means if you consumed 2000 kcal you’d actually consume 2040 calories instead . In all seriousness this will make minimal to no difference. There’s a reason why bodybuilders (and us as a society) have been using the kcal system for so long. It’s because it works pretty darn good.

And if you’re still not convinced that kcal are accurate let’s take a look at Face IQ the self proclaimed “debloat” master who eats over 3000 kcal daily to a random gymcel who counts his calories

Spoiler: I do raw primal how did you know

View attachment 4195930

Spoiler: I count my calories how did you know

View attachment 4195931

Hair Loss
Another retarded take from these primal copers is that eating this way will somehow cure hairloss . The theory goes that if you are nutrient deficient then you will lose hair, which is true. And if you are nutrient sufficient then you’ll keep your hair. Though this theory does hold some truth it has many holes. First of all most people get sufficient nutrition to counter the hair loss from nutrient deficiency. And if they didn’t it would be an easy fix of adding a couple eggs to there diet to fix it and they wouldn’t need to go full primal to. Another thing that primal diet enthusiast forget to add is DHT effects on hair. Every man will suffer from some kind of Androgenic Alopecia, the amount of hairloss experienced from this is mostly due to genetics. The main hormone that affects this is DHT. This phase is the main cause of male pattern baldness.

Raw primal doesn’t decrease DHT so they won’t be able to fix this.

Also this would contradict the point that raw primal diet improves hormones. This is because if it was true then it would increase DHT which would make hair loss worse. So raw meat enthusiasts have to choose whether raw primal increases hormones and worsens hairloss or has no effect on hormones and improves hair loss. (Or neither ). Inb4 DHT affecting hairloss isn’t real and made up by the elites because Goatis said so.

Cholesterol
Cholesterol is a substance that has many important roles in the body. This is generally accepted but where the primal diet copers differ on is that they think high levels of cholesterol is actually beneficial . Like a lot of there claims it has zero scientific backing. I think there main argument is that it increases testosterone and the negatives are a myth and blame seed oils or something . Again this is not backed up by any real science and the opposition (anti high cholesterol side) has countless meta studies proving there point.

View attachment 4195925

This is probably one of the worst theories the raw meat community has and can have quite serious consequences. With many studies proving it can cause early mortality

Spoiler: Study

https://scholar.google.co.uk/schola...isig=AAZF9b_WdYDP39kziA5JI8rORSyD&oi=scholarr

I want to reemphasize that cholesterol in itself isn’t bad and has many benefits but it’s just high levels of it that is dangerous.

View attachment 4195917

Gym

Imo the worst take of all the diet copers is that ‘gym is cope’. This is just pure retardation. I’ll keep this section short as it’s mostly water for any sane person, but for the goatis glazers there are 100’s of studies proving women prefer a muscular physique and dislike skinny ones.

Spoiler: Study

https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/full/10.1098/rspb.2017.1819#d3e552

Just look at these transformations and decide for yourself if you’d rather be a skinny primal cuck or a roided unnatural Chad

View attachment 4195932

View attachment 4195937

View attachment 4195935

View attachment 4195926

View attachment 4195916

Conclusion

To end I want to leave you with some of the raw primal ‘transformations’ and you can decide if it’s really worth it

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Tagging
@Hernan @MaracasMogs @unon @Orka @HighIQ ubermensch

jfl at this rosacea fucked up flushed face i thought diet fixes all skin conditions

 

[HighIQ ubermensch]

water.

but do make sure to give ur kid lots of raw dairy and feed him good. Raw dairy decides height and bones

You do realize parasites can fuck up your health & TB can actually stunt your height?
cooked organ meats & pasteurized dairy are enough. Just don't go vegan

 

[Aryan Incel]

These ain't just "GYM tranformations"

Yeah they roided as well

 

[King_Schnitzel]

Intro
In the last year or so a prominent figure has emerged into looksmaxxing Goatis. Full of cope and anti scientific opinions he has grown in the eyes of the greys and TikTokcels and with it a new niche Primal/ Natural Looksmaxxing. With his outrageous claims like you would’ve been a 6’6 giga Chad if you’d of just raw meat and being circle jerked by his cult like followers it is now thought of being true especially on the more basic looksmaxxing areas (mostly YT and TT) but his reach has even begun to come here to this forum. Today I will prove why raw meat is cope and in most cases anti scientific and utter nonsense for looksmaxxing.

Bone growth disproved
Let’s go on with a point that many raw meat copers say ‘raw meat will make you grow bones bro’. This is a common point that 99% of raw meat enthusiasts say but it can be easily disproven with this study.

View attachment 4195919

Spoiler: Study

https://www.binasss.sa.cr/nov23/56.pdf

It shows that your development of your skull/ bonemass is already finished before you’re 15 for the most part. This means even if raw meat could increase bonemass it would be useless unless you’re <15.

This is because once your skull bones fuse it’s impossible to grow them.

Now even if you have raw meat through puberty it’s not a guarantee of bones as they are mainly affected by genes (90-95%) ,

Which is why these people who ate raw meat there whole life are boneless and recessed, which should be impossible by Goatis’s logic.

View attachment 4195920

View attachment 4195934

View attachment 4195938

Sunlight
‘Sunscreen won’t age you bro it’s just your diet bro’. This is a comedic cope that some retarded primal diet ‘looksmaxxers’ are promoting. And it’s just entirely anti science.

Well to start off the sun is harmful because it produces harmful UV rays which can’t be blocked effectively unless you use sunscreen.

These UV rays have been PROVEN to rapidly age the skin.

Spoiler: Study

National Institutes of Health (NIH) | (.gov)https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.govUltraviolet Radiation, Aging and the Skin: Prevention of Damage by ...

Spoiler: picture of two twins one wore sunscreen, one didn’t can you guess which is which?

View attachment 4195936

Then a usual response from a primal diet copers is that removing linoleic acid (seed oils) would stop the sun damage. Some studies prove that they can worsen sun damage minimally but some show that it does the opposite and conflict

Spoiler: Study

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11476445/#:~:text=These results suggest that LA,induced oxidative and inflammatory damage.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3569884/#:~:text=This points to a role,, especially melanoma [22].

Another cope some primal people make is that ‘you don’t understand the biology of it bro’ however there is little to no evidence to show this would be the case using biochemistry, even if it was (which it isn’t but I’m being theoretical here just in case a random goatis glazer says it is whilst not siting a study ) the evidence of this theory gets brutally mogged by the overwhelming number of META analysis studies proving that the sun ages you.

View attachment 4195921

Now if you’re still not convinced that the sun will age here are some pics from anti seed oil and pro meat advocates

View attachment 4195918

View attachment 4195933

Strict diet for many decades just to have older looking skin than a 90 year old monk who hasn’t gotten any sun in his life

View attachment 4195929

Spoiler: Average 90 year old btw so you can compare

View attachment 4195927

Kcal in kcal out
Another outrageous claim these primal clowns make is that kcal don’t exist and have no effect in humans.

A kcal is the chemical energy stored in food. Yes a calorie is technically a measure of the amount of energy required to heat a gram of water of 1 degree Celsius. But in food it’s potential energy that can transform into another type of energy when we break it down. For those who don’t get it think of a loudspeaker , we put in electrical energy and it produces sound. A kcal is like that, we take in potential energy (through consuming food) and can use it to produce other forms of energy like kinetic (movement) through the law of conservation of energy. This is fucking basic biology and physics that these low iq primal people forget to add or they are just too stupid to know.

Another thing they’ll say is “calories aren’t accurate”. Yes this statement is somewhat true but is entirely overblown. Yes technically foods can be 20% over there calorie label but they just do this to prevent people suing them. Most studies agree on an around 4% higher than the stated value

Spoiler: Study

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3605747/

This means if you consumed 2000 kcal you’d actually consume 2040 calories instead . In all seriousness this will make minimal to no difference. There’s a reason why bodybuilders (and us as a society) have been using the kcal system for so long. It’s because it works pretty darn good.

And if you’re still not convinced that kcal are accurate let’s take a look at Face IQ the self proclaimed “debloat” master who eats over 3000 kcal daily to a random gymcel who counts his calories

Spoiler: I do raw primal how did you know

View attachment 4195930

Spoiler: I count my calories how did you know

View attachment 4195931

Hair Loss
Another retarded take from these primal copers is that eating this way will somehow cure hairloss . The theory goes that if you are nutrient deficient then you will lose hair, which is true. And if you are nutrient sufficient then you’ll keep your hair. Though this theory does hold some truth it has many holes. First of all most people get sufficient nutrition to counter the hair loss from nutrient deficiency. And if they didn’t it would be an easy fix of adding a couple eggs to there diet to fix it and they wouldn’t need to go full primal to. Another thing that primal diet enthusiast forget to add is DHT effects on hair. Every man will suffer from some kind of Androgenic Alopecia, the amount of hairloss experienced from this is mostly due to genetics. The main hormone that affects this is DHT. This phase is the main cause of male pattern baldness.

Raw primal doesn’t decrease DHT so they won’t be able to fix this.

Also this would contradict the point that raw primal diet improves hormones. This is because if it was true then it would increase DHT which would make hair loss worse. So raw meat enthusiasts have to choose whether raw primal increases hormones and worsens hairloss or has no effect on hormones and improves hair loss. (Or neither ). Inb4 DHT affecting hairloss isn’t real and made up by the elites because Goatis said so.

Cholesterol
Cholesterol is a substance that has many important roles in the body. This is generally accepted but where the primal diet copers differ on is that they think high levels of cholesterol is actually beneficial . Like a lot of there claims it has zero scientific backing. I think there main argument is that it increases testosterone and the negatives are a myth and blame seed oils or something . Again this is not backed up by any real science and the opposition (anti high cholesterol side) has countless meta studies proving there point.

View attachment 4195925

This is probably one of the worst theories the raw meat community has and can have quite serious consequences. With many studies proving it can cause early mortality

Spoiler: Study

https://scholar.google.co.uk/schola...isig=AAZF9b_WdYDP39kziA5JI8rORSyD&oi=scholarr

I want to reemphasize that cholesterol in itself isn’t bad and has many benefits but it’s just high levels of it that is dangerous.

View attachment 4195917

Gym

Imo the worst take of all the diet copers is that ‘gym is cope’. This is just pure retardation. I’ll keep this section short as it’s mostly water for any sane person, but for the goatis glazers there are 100’s of studies proving women prefer a muscular physique and dislike skinny ones.

Spoiler: Study

https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/full/10.1098/rspb.2017.1819#d3e552

Just look at these transformations and decide for yourself if you’d rather be a skinny primal cuck or a roided unnatural Chad

View attachment 4195932

View attachment 4195937

View attachment 4195935

View attachment 4195926

View attachment 4195916

Conclusion

To end I want to leave you with some of the raw primal ‘transformations’ and you can decide if it’s really worth it

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Tagging
@Hernan @MaracasMogs @unon @Orka @HighIQ ubermensch

The time I ate Tartar was the only time I felt good.

 

[FiendFiend]

You do realize parasites can fuck up your health & TB can actually stunt your height?
cooked organ meats & pasteurized dairy are enough. Just don't go vegan

pasteurized dairy isnt cope nigga. Yeah but eating organ meat and shit is fucking putrid. I grew up for my first few years on a village drinking milk from the farm non pasteurized. It isnt cope bhai.

 

[nuisance]

SUNBURN WRONG
From the primal lens, you don't stay in the sun. You leave when you feel a burn or discomfort, and yes, 100% seed oils do increase the severity of sunburns, AND THEY cause oxidative stress and release free RADICALS in the skin when being sunburned, WHICH WILL AGE YOU 100x MORE THAN A SUNBURNED ANIMAL DIET BODY. You seem like you know that so I don't see your argument.

CALORIES ABSOLUTELY WORST SURFACE LEVEL TAKE YET
First off, yes a calorie is a unit of energy, and foods have different units of energy.

But, Protein burns up 20-30% of its calories through digestion and stimulates muscle synthesis, and the most important factor you missed IS INSULIN SPIKES WITH carbohydrates and SUGAR. INSULIN ENCOURAGES FAT STORAGE AND SUPPRESSES FAT OXIDATION (fat burn).

IF ONE PERSON EATS 4k CALORIES OF CAKE DAILY AND ANOTHER EATS 4K CALORIES OF ANIMAL PRODUCTS, THE ONE WHO EATS CAKE WILL BE FATTER.

CHOLESTEROL WRONG
Cholesterol is vital. The reason why cholesterol is linked to heart diseases is because COOKING MEAT oxidizes cholesterol INTO OXYSTEROLS, WHICH DO CAUSE PLAQUES IN THE ARTERIES. Raw meat doesn't have Oxysterols because it's not cooked.

TAGGING COPERS AND POSTERS BE FREE FROM LOW IQ BRAINWASH :
@unon @Aryan Incel @Orka @vincentzygo @FlotPSL @Volksstaffel @HtnGymcel @Zerske @churmaxxed @Mizi44 @wrestle.cel @m0ss26 @MaracasMogs @Bitchwhipper2 @FiendFiend

 

[FlotPSL]

SUNBURN WRONG
From the primal lens, you don't stay in the sun. You leave when you feel a burn or discomfort, and yes, 100% seed oils do increase the severity of sunburns, AND THEY cause oxidative stress and release free RADICALS in the skin when being sunburned, WHICH WILL AGE YOU 100x MORE THAN A SUNBURNED ANIMAL DIET BODY. You seem like you know that so I don't see your argument.

CALORIES ABSOLUTELY WORST SURFACE LEVEL TAKE YET
First off, yes a calorie is a unit of energy, and foods have different units of energy.

But, Protein burns up 20-30% of its calories through digestion and stimulates muscle synthesis, and the most important factor you missed IS INSULIN SPIKES WITH carbohydrates and SUGAR. INSULIN ENCOURAGES FAT STORAGE AND SUPPRESSES FAT OXIDATION (fat burn).

IF ONE PERSON EATS 4k CALORIES OF CAKE DAILY AND ANOTHER EATS 4K CALORIES OF ANIMAL PRODUCTS, THE ONE WHO EATS CAKE WILL BE FATTER.

CHOLESTEROL WRONG
Cholesterol is vital. The reason why cholesterol is linked to heart diseases is because COOKING MEAT oxidizes cholesterol INTO OXYSTEROLS, WHICH DO CAUSE PLAQUES IN THE ARTERIES. Raw meat doesn't have Oxysterols because it's not cooked.

TAGGING COPERS AND POSTERS BE FREE FROM LOW IQ BRAINWASH :
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Damn

 

[Aryan Incel]

From the primal lens, you don't stay in the sun. You leave when you feel a burn or discomfort,

Even if you don’t burn you will still get sun damage

AND THEY cause oxidative stress and release free RADICALS in the skin when being sunburned, WHICH WILL AGE YOU 100x MORE THAN A SUNBURNED ANIMAL DIET BODY. You seem like you know that so I don't see your argument.

proof?

First off, yes a calorie is a unit of energy, and foods have different units of energy.

But, Protein burns up 20-30% of its calories through digestion and stimulates muscle synthesis, and the most important factor you missed

Study?

and the most important factor you missed IS INSULIN SPIKES WITH carbohydrates and SUGAR. INSULIN ENCOURAGES FAT STORAGE AND SUPPRESSES FAT OXIDATION (fat burn)

It has minimal effect but it can be helpful

Cholesterol is vital.

I never said it wasn’t

The reason why cholesterol is linked to heart diseases is because COOKING MEAT oxidizes cholesterol INTO OXYSTEROLS, WHICH DO CAUSE PLAQUES IN THE ARTERIES. Raw meat doesn't have Oxysterols because it's not cooked.

Study?

 

[nuisance]

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[nuisance]

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[unon]

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I told you there is no point arguing with PRIMAL niggers

 

[Aryan Incel]

Protein burns up 20-30% of its calories through digestion and stimulates muscle synthesis

This study shows there’s is no difference between different macro nutrients

Increasing the protein content of meals and its effect on daily energy intake - PMC

High-protein preloads have been shown to enhance satiety, but little is known about the satiating effects of protein in more typical situations when meals are consumed ad libitum. In order to investigate the effects of protein in amounts commonly ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[nuisance]

I told you there is no point arguing with PRIMAL niggers

org reposted the same post 3 times i had to dot it

I obliterated this guy you're too low iq to see, getting recipts rn cause hes a study-cel

 

[Aryan Incel]

org reposted the same post 3 times i had to dot it

I obliterated this guy you're too low iq to see, getting recipts rn cause hes a study-cel

No you didn’t you gave false statements with zero scientific backing

 

[HighIQ ubermensch]

SUNBURN WRONG
From the primal lens, you don't stay in the sun. You leave when you feel a burn or discomfort, and yes, 100% seed oils do increase the severity of sunburns, AND THEY cause oxidative stress and release free RADICALS in the skin when being sunburned, WHICH WILL AGE YOU 100x MORE THAN A SUNBURNED ANIMAL DIET BODY. You seem like you know that so I don't see your argument.

You might not "burn" doesn't mean your skin isn't getting the damage.
UV rays damage the DNA of your skin cells & rape elastin, these will fuck up your skin in the long term.
Your skin might age less while the consuming primal diet , but it still will nonetheless.

CALORIES ABSOLUTELY WORST SURFACE LEVEL TAKE YET
First off, yes a calorie is a unit of energy, and foods have different units of energy.

But, Protein burns up 20-30% of its calories through digestion and stimulates muscle synthesis, and the most important factor you missed IS INSULIN SPIKES WITH carbohydrates and SUGAR. INSULIN ENCOURAGES FAT STORAGE AND SUPPRESSES FAT OXIDATION (fat burn).

You consume like 9kal per gram of fat & barely burn 0.5kcal
That's what most of red meat is.
Agreed with the insulin spike part tho

CHOLESTEROL WRONG
Cholesterol is vital. The reason why cholesterol is linked to heart diseases is because COOKING MEAT oxidizes cholesterol INTO OXYSTEROLS, WHICH DO CAUSE PLAQUES IN THE ARTERIES. Raw meat doesn't have Oxysterols because it's not cooked.

Agreed
but raw meat has parasites & bacteria, cooking is important unless you wanna consume some expensive top grade stake tartar or sushi.

 

[nuisance]

Even if you don’t burn you will still get sun damage

proof?

Study?


It has minimal effect but it can be helpful

I never said it wasn’t

Study?

Protein TEF

Diet-induced thermogenesis in man: thermic effects of single proteins, carbohydrates and fats depending on their energy amount - PubMed

The diet-induced thermogenesis of 12 healthy males of normal body weight was measured by means of indirect calorimetry over 6 h after test meals of 1, 2 or 4 MJ protein (white egg, gelatin, casein), carbohydrate (starch, hydrolyzed starch) or fat (sunflower oil, butter). The totals of the...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"The effect of 1 MJ protein was at least three times as large as that of an isocaloric carbohydrate supply."

Seed oils and sunburn

Polyunsaturated fatty acid enrichment increases ultraviolet A-induced lipid peroxidation in NCTC 2544 human keratinocytes - PubMed

The influence of cell enrichment with fatty acids with increasing degree of unsaturation on the ultraviolet A-induced formation of lipid-peroxidation products (thiobarbituric acid reactive substances [TBARS]) has been investigated in NCTC 2544 human keratinocytes. A 48-h preculture of cells in...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Dietary, but not topical, alpha-linolenic acid suppresses UVB-induced skin injury in hairless mice when compared with linoleic acids - PubMed

Peroxidizability of fatty acids in the air is roughly proportional to the number of double bonds, but in vivo peroxidation proceeds in a more complex manner. Here, we compared the effects of dietary and topically applied oils enriched with linoleic acid (LA, 18:2n-6) or alpha-linolenic acid...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Influence of dietary lipid upon ultraviolet-light carcinogenesis - PubMed

The effects of dietary lipid level, degree of saturation, and antioxidant supplements on ultraviolet-light (UV) carcinogenesis were studied in female albino hairless mice. Twelve groups of 42 animals each received a restricted, semipurified, isocaloric diet containing 4%, 12%, or 12% (60%...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Lipid ingredients in moisturizers can modulate skin responses to UV in barrier-disrupted human skin in vivo - PubMed

Topical cholesterol can protect the barrier-disrupted skin against UV-induced damage, while linoleic acid or N-oleoyl-phytosphingosine alone has the potential to aggravate the damage.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Insulin spikes do not cause minimal effects, plenty of research on insulins effects of fat storage.

Scientists linked cholesterol to heart disease because a significant number of people with heart disease have high cholesterol; of course they would ignore oxysterols because no modern person has cholesterol without oxysterols unless you eat raw animal products.

Association of Serum Oxysterols with Cholesterol Metabolism Markers and Clinical Factors in Patients with Coronary Artery Disease: A Covariance Structure Analysis - PMC

Oxysterols have been implicated in the pathogenesis of cardiovascular diseases. Serum levels of oxysterols could be positively correlated with cholesterol absorption and synthesis. However, physiological regulation of various serum oxysterols is ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Oxysterols and atherosclerosis - PubMed

Oxysterols are present in human atherosclerotic plaque and are suggested to play an active role in plaque development. Moreover, the oxysterol:cholesterol ratio in plaque is much higher than in normal tissues or plasma. Oxysterols in plaque are derived both non-enzymically, either from the diet...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"Oxysterols are present in human atherosclerotic plaque and are suggested to play an active role in plaque development. Moreover, the oxysterol:cholesterol ratio in plaque is much higher than in normal tissues or plasma."

When you think you have found the answer, why look deeper?

Every real BPER knows that scientists don't know the full picture, and studyceling on some topics are cope. Not all but some.

 

[nuisance]

You might not "burn" doesn't mean your skin isn't getting the damage.
UV rays damage the DNA of your skin cells & rape elastin, these will fuck up your skin in the long term.
Your skin might age less while the consuming primal diet , but it still will nonetheless.


You consume like 9kal per gram of fat & barely burn 0.5kcal
That's what most of red meat is.
Agreed with the insulin spike part tho

Agreed
but raw meat has parasites & bacteria, cooking is important unless you wanna consume some expensive top grade stake tartar or sushi.

I agree with you that UV in excess amounts or coupled with a seed oil diet isn't good for your skin. That's why you don't do excess exposure. You shouldn't fear the sun. It doesn't age you as much as people think, thats the seed oils mainly.

Sunlight in a natural body actually improves collagen synthesis.

The protein part is something, the main point is insulin.

I would never advocate eating supermarket raw meat. Just because supermarket meat can potentially contain bacteria doesn't mean that the correct, and natural way of consuming meat is dangerous. If you have a local butcher or raise the animals yourself, that is the way to go, you won't get sick.

The risk for parasites in Ruminant animals is extremely low. Not even a concern.

 

[heightmax]

Intro
In the last year or so a prominent figure has emerged into looksmaxxing Goatis. Full of cope and anti scientific opinions he has grown in the eyes of the greys and TikTokcels and with it a new niche Primal/ Natural Looksmaxxing. With his outrageous claims like you would’ve been a 6’6 giga Chad if you’d of just raw meat and being circle jerked by his cult like followers it is now thought of being true especially on the more basic looksmaxxing areas (mostly YT and TT) but his reach has even begun to come here to this forum. Today I will prove why raw meat is cope and in most cases anti scientific and utter nonsense for looksmaxxing.

Bone growth disproved
Let’s go on with a point that many raw meat copers say ‘raw meat will make you grow bones bro’. This is a common point that 99% of raw meat enthusiasts say but it can be easily disproven with this study.

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Spoiler: Study

https://www.binasss.sa.cr/nov23/56.pdf

It shows that your development of your skull/ bonemass is already finished before you’re 15 for the most part. This means even if raw meat could increase bonemass it would be useless unless you’re <15.

This is because once your skull bones fuse it’s impossible to grow them.

Now even if you have raw meat through puberty it’s not a guarantee of bones as they are mainly affected by genes (90-95%) ,

Which is why these people who ate raw meat there whole life are boneless and recessed, which should be impossible by Goatis’s logic.

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Sunlight
‘Sunscreen won’t age you bro it’s just your diet bro’. This is a comedic cope that some retarded primal diet ‘looksmaxxers’ are promoting. And it’s just entirely anti science.

Well to start off the sun is harmful because it produces harmful UV rays which can’t be blocked effectively unless you use sunscreen.

These UV rays have been PROVEN to rapidly age the skin.

Spoiler: Study

National Institutes of Health (NIH) | (.gov)https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.govUltraviolet Radiation, Aging and the Skin: Prevention of Damage by ...

Spoiler: picture of two twins one wore sunscreen, one didn’t can you guess which is which?

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Then a usual response from a primal diet copers is that removing linoleic acid (seed oils) would stop the sun damage. Some studies prove that they can worsen sun damage minimally but some show that it does the opposite and conflict

Spoiler: Study

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11476445/#:~:text=These results suggest that LA,induced oxidative and inflammatory damage.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3569884/#:~:text=This points to a role,, especially melanoma [22].

Another cope some primal people make is that ‘you don’t understand the biology of it bro’ however there is little to no evidence to show this would be the case using biochemistry, even if it was (which it isn’t but I’m being theoretical here just in case a random goatis glazer says it is whilst not siting a study ) the evidence of this theory gets brutally mogged by the overwhelming number of META analysis studies proving that the sun ages you.

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Now if you’re still not convinced that the sun will age here are some pics from anti seed oil and pro meat advocates

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Strict diet for many decades just to have older looking skin than a 90 year old monk who hasn’t gotten any sun in his life

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Spoiler: Average 90 year old btw so you can compare

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Kcal in kcal out
Another outrageous claim these primal clowns make is that kcal don’t exist and have no effect in humans.

A kcal is the chemical energy stored in food. Yes a calorie is technically a measure of the amount of energy required to heat a gram of water of 1 degree Celsius. But in food it’s potential energy that can transform into another type of energy when we break it down. For those who don’t get it think of a loudspeaker , we put in electrical energy and it produces sound. A kcal is like that, we take in potential energy (through consuming food) and can use it to produce other forms of energy like kinetic (movement) through the law of conservation of energy. This is fucking basic biology and physics that these low iq primal people forget to add or they are just too stupid to know.

Another thing they’ll say is “calories aren’t accurate”. Yes this statement is somewhat true but is entirely overblown. Yes technically foods can be 20% over there calorie label but they just do this to prevent people suing them. Most studies agree on an around 4% higher than the stated value

Spoiler: Study

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3605747/

This means if you consumed 2000 kcal you’d actually consume 2040 calories instead . In all seriousness this will make minimal to no difference. There’s a reason why bodybuilders (and us as a society) have been using the kcal system for so long. It’s because it works pretty darn good.

And if you’re still not convinced that kcal are accurate let’s take a look at Face IQ the self proclaimed “debloat” master who eats over 3000 kcal daily to a random gymcel who counts his calories

Spoiler: I do raw primal how did you know

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Spoiler: I count my calories how did you know

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Hair Loss
Another retarded take from these primal copers is that eating this way will somehow cure hairloss . The theory goes that if you are nutrient deficient then you will lose hair, which is true. And if you are nutrient sufficient then you’ll keep your hair. Though this theory does hold some truth it has many holes. First of all most people get sufficient nutrition to counter the hair loss from nutrient deficiency. And if they didn’t it would be an easy fix of adding a couple eggs to there diet to fix it and they wouldn’t need to go full primal to. Another thing that primal diet enthusiast forget to add is DHT effects on hair. Every man will suffer from some kind of Androgenic Alopecia, the amount of hairloss experienced from this is mostly due to genetics. The main hormone that affects this is DHT. This phase is the main cause of male pattern baldness.

Raw primal doesn’t decrease DHT so they won’t be able to fix this.

Also this would contradict the point that raw primal diet improves hormones. This is because if it was true then it would increase DHT which would make hair loss worse. So raw meat enthusiasts have to choose whether raw primal increases hormones and worsens hairloss or has no effect on hormones and improves hair loss. (Or neither ). Inb4 DHT affecting hairloss isn’t real and made up by the elites because Goatis said so.

Cholesterol
Cholesterol is a substance that has many important roles in the body. This is generally accepted but where the primal diet copers differ on is that they think high levels of cholesterol is actually beneficial . Like a lot of there claims it has zero scientific backing. I think there main argument is that it increases testosterone and the negatives are a myth and blame seed oils or something . Again this is not backed up by any real science and the opposition (anti high cholesterol side) has countless meta studies proving there point.

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This is probably one of the worst theories the raw meat community has and can have quite serious consequences. With many studies proving it can cause early mortality

Spoiler: Study

https://scholar.google.co.uk/schola...isig=AAZF9b_WdYDP39kziA5JI8rORSyD&oi=scholarr

I want to reemphasize that cholesterol in itself isn’t bad and has many benefits but it’s just high levels of it that is dangerous.

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Gym

Imo the worst take of all the diet copers is that ‘gym is cope’. This is just pure retardation. I’ll keep this section short as it’s mostly water for any sane person, but for the goatis glazers there are 100’s of studies proving women prefer a muscular physique and dislike skinny ones.

Spoiler: Study

https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/full/10.1098/rspb.2017.1819#d3e552

Just look at these transformations and decide for yourself if you’d rather be a skinny primal cuck or a roided unnatural Chad

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Conclusion

To end I want to leave you with some of the raw primal ‘transformations’ and you can decide if it’s really worth it

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Tagging
@Hernan @MaracasMogs @unon @Orka @HighIQ ubermensch

botb

 

[nuisance]

botb

Scroll up bro

 

[Aryan Incel]

Seed oils and sunburn

Doesn’t prove the effect on skin aging though?

Scientists linked cholesterol to heart disease because a significant number of people with heart disease have high cholesterol; of course they would ignore oxysterols because no modern person has cholesterol without oxysterols unless you eat raw animal products

what about animal studies etc? If not then you have no proof

 

[Aryan Incel]

Sunlight in a natural body actually improves collagen synthesis.

Yes in the instant but long term use shows it has a negative effect

 

[Aryan Incel]

Scroll up bro

You literally made one decent point stop glazing yourself bro

 

[HighIQ ubermensch]

I agree with you that UV in excess amounts or coupled with a seed oil diet isn't good for your skin. That's why you don't do excess exposure. You shouldn't fear the sun. It doesn't age you as much as people think, thats the seed oils mainly.

It ages you anyways, ideally you'd want minimal to none.
There's no adequate amount of sun exposure

Sunlight in a natural body actually improves collagen synthesis.

No, It doesn't
In theory, only good thing it can do is fueling the mitochondria a bit.
tho impact is so minimal that it's not even worth considering in the face of the huge negatives that come with it

The protein part is something, the main point is insulin.

Yeah, I agree with that

I would never advocate eating supermarket raw meat. Just because supermarket meat can potentially contain bacteria doesn't mean that the correct, and natural way of consuming meat is dangerous.
If you have a local butcher or raise the animals yourself, that is the way to go, you won't get sick.

Getting your own animals is expensive & time consuming. It's inconvenient for most people.
You can't decide how local butcher handles it, it's not a very reliable way. It can still end up having bacteria & parasites..
Your "correct natural way" is indeed dangerous & inconvenient.
Only decent way to ensure this is being rich & buying top grade raw meat or letting your servants handle it.
You're completely delusional If you're going to argue this.
The risk is pretty high If you're planning to make it a part of your daily diet. The consequences can be brutal.

 

[fwhr glazer]

Intro
In the last year or so a prominent figure has emerged into looksmaxxing Goatis. Full of cope and anti scientific opinions he has grown in the eyes of the greys and TikTokcels and with it a new niche Primal/ Natural Looksmaxxing. With his outrageous claims like you would’ve been a 6’6 giga Chad if you’d of just raw meat and being circle jerked by his cult like followers it is now thought of being true especially on the more basic looksmaxxing areas (mostly YT and TT) but his reach has even begun to come here to this forum. Today I will prove why raw meat is cope and in most cases anti scientific and utter nonsense for looksmaxxing.

Bone growth disproved
Let’s go on with a point that many raw meat copers say ‘raw meat will make you grow bones bro’. This is a common point that 99% of raw meat enthusiasts say but it can be easily disproven with this study.

View attachment 4195919

Spoiler: Study

https://www.binasss.sa.cr/nov23/56.pdf

It shows that your development of your skull/ bonemass is already finished before you’re 15 for the most part. This means even if raw meat could increase bonemass it would be useless unless you’re <15.

This is because once your skull bones fuse it’s impossible to grow them.

Now even if you have raw meat through puberty it’s not a guarantee of bones as they are mainly affected by genes (90-95%) ,

Which is why these people who ate raw meat there whole life are boneless and recessed, which should be impossible by Goatis’s logic.

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Sunlight
‘Sunscreen won’t age you bro it’s just your diet bro’. This is a comedic cope that some retarded primal diet ‘looksmaxxers’ are promoting. And it’s just entirely anti science.

Well to start off the sun is harmful because it produces harmful UV rays which can’t be blocked effectively unless you use sunscreen.

These UV rays have been PROVEN to rapidly age the skin.

Spoiler: Study

National Institutes of Health (NIH) | (.gov)https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.govUltraviolet Radiation, Aging and the Skin: Prevention of Damage by ...

Spoiler: picture of two twins one wore sunscreen, one didn’t can you guess which is which?

View attachment 4195936

Then a usual response from a primal diet copers is that removing linoleic acid (seed oils) would stop the sun damage. Some studies prove that they can worsen sun damage minimally but some show that it does the opposite and conflict

Spoiler: Study

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11476445/#:~:text=These results suggest that LA,induced oxidative and inflammatory damage.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3569884/#:~:text=This points to a role,, especially melanoma [22].

Another cope some primal people make is that ‘you don’t understand the biology of it bro’ however there is little to no evidence to show this would be the case using biochemistry, even if it was (which it isn’t but I’m being theoretical here just in case a random goatis glazer says it is whilst not siting a study ) the evidence of this theory gets brutally mogged by the overwhelming number of META analysis studies proving that the sun ages you.

View attachment 4195921

Now if you’re still not convinced that the sun will age here are some pics from anti seed oil and pro meat advocates

View attachment 4195918

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Strict diet for many decades just to have older looking skin than a 90 year old monk who hasn’t gotten any sun in his life

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Spoiler: Average 90 year old btw so you can compare

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Kcal in kcal out
Another outrageous claim these primal clowns make is that kcal don’t exist and have no effect in humans.

A kcal is the chemical energy stored in food. Yes a calorie is technically a measure of the amount of energy required to heat a gram of water of 1 degree Celsius. But in food it’s potential energy that can transform into another type of energy when we break it down. For those who don’t get it think of a loudspeaker , we put in electrical energy and it produces sound. A kcal is like that, we take in potential energy (through consuming food) and can use it to produce other forms of energy like kinetic (movement) through the law of conservation of energy. This is fucking basic biology and physics that these low iq primal people forget to add or they are just too stupid to know.

Another thing they’ll say is “calories aren’t accurate”. Yes this statement is somewhat true but is entirely overblown. Yes technically foods can be 20% over there calorie label but they just do this to prevent people suing them. Most studies agree on an around 4% higher than the stated value

Spoiler: Study

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3605747/

This means if you consumed 2000 kcal you’d actually consume 2040 calories instead . In all seriousness this will make minimal to no difference. There’s a reason why bodybuilders (and us as a society) have been using the kcal system for so long. It’s because it works pretty darn good.

And if you’re still not convinced that kcal are accurate let’s take a look at Face IQ the self proclaimed “debloat” master who eats over 3000 kcal daily to a random gymcel who counts his calories

Spoiler: I do raw primal how did you know

View attachment 4195930

Spoiler: I count my calories how did you know

View attachment 4195931

Hair Loss
Another retarded take from these primal copers is that eating this way will somehow cure hairloss . The theory goes that if you are nutrient deficient then you will lose hair, which is true. And if you are nutrient sufficient then you’ll keep your hair. Though this theory does hold some truth it has many holes. First of all most people get sufficient nutrition to counter the hair loss from nutrient deficiency. And if they didn’t it would be an easy fix of adding a couple eggs to there diet to fix it and they wouldn’t need to go full primal to. Another thing that primal diet enthusiast forget to add is DHT effects on hair. Every man will suffer from some kind of Androgenic Alopecia, the amount of hairloss experienced from this is mostly due to genetics. The main hormone that affects this is DHT. This phase is the main cause of male pattern baldness.

Raw primal doesn’t decrease DHT so they won’t be able to fix this.

Also this would contradict the point that raw primal diet improves hormones. This is because if it was true then it would increase DHT which would make hair loss worse. So raw meat enthusiasts have to choose whether raw primal increases hormones and worsens hairloss or has no effect on hormones and improves hair loss. (Or neither ). Inb4 DHT affecting hairloss isn’t real and made up by the elites because Goatis said so.

Cholesterol
Cholesterol is a substance that has many important roles in the body. This is generally accepted but where the primal diet copers differ on is that they think high levels of cholesterol is actually beneficial . Like a lot of there claims it has zero scientific backing. I think there main argument is that it increases testosterone and the negatives are a myth and blame seed oils or something . Again this is not backed up by any real science and the opposition (anti high cholesterol side) has countless meta studies proving there point.

View attachment 4195925

This is probably one of the worst theories the raw meat community has and can have quite serious consequences. With many studies proving it can cause early mortality

Spoiler: Study

https://scholar.google.co.uk/schola...isig=AAZF9b_WdYDP39kziA5JI8rORSyD&oi=scholarr

I want to reemphasize that cholesterol in itself isn’t bad and has many benefits but it’s just high levels of it that is dangerous.

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Gym

Imo the worst take of all the diet copers is that ‘gym is cope’. This is just pure retardation. I’ll keep this section short as it’s mostly water for any sane person, but for the goatis glazers there are 100’s of studies proving women prefer a muscular physique and dislike skinny ones.

Spoiler: Study

https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/full/10.1098/rspb.2017.1819#d3e552

Just look at these transformations and decide for yourself if you’d rather be a skinny primal cuck or a roided unnatural Chad

View attachment 4195932

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Conclusion

To end I want to leave you with some of the raw primal ‘transformations’ and you can decide if it’s really worth it

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Tagging
@Hernan @MaracasMogs @unon @Orka @HighIQ ubermensch

Just be healthy and raw meat is litterly meat with a little bit more nutrients so why would you transformed from it, i think the people are blaming their normal development on raw meat and most of them are dumb exept me but thats beside the point also i havent heard anyone say that the sun doesnt age you like i dont have to worry about that cus i live in Sweden but for other people i guess if they live in like greece then its very bad for them

 

[nuisance]

Doesn’t prove the effect on skin aging though?

what about animal studies etc? If not then you have no proof

Yes in the instant but long term use shows it has a negative effect

You believe UV causes skin aging which I do to with certain caveats. Like burning.

These studies show seed oils make the skin more sensitive to UV, causing them to burn faster/harder. Therefore more damage.

And then animal studies are you talking about cholesterol? It was done in humans. There is a higher oxysterol:cholesterol ratio in a plaque, it’s not like this in any other tissues. The correlation is strong.

"Oxysterols are present in human atherosclerotic plaque and are suggested to play an active role in plaque development. Moreover, the oxysterol:cholesterol ratio in plaque is much higher than in normal tissues or plasma."

You literally made one decent point stop glazing yourself bro

I just get excited about this topic I just want to see you be healthy with a mouthful of raw liver

 

[Aryan Incel]

I just get excited about ur this topic I just want to see you be healthy with a mouthful of raw liver

Fair enough I appreciate your comments sorry if I was mean . You made some very insightful points points and found a couple holes in my argument

 

[Aryan Incel]

I just get excited about this topic I just want to see you be healthy with a mouthful of raw liver

I also tried raw primal for a year and I got fat, bloated and acne. But I felt very good

 

[nuisance]

It ages you anyways, ideally you'd want minimal to none.
There's no adequate amount of sun exposure

No, It doesn't
In theory, only good thing it can do is fueling the mitochondria a bit.
tho impact is so minimal that it's not even worth considering in the face of the huge negatives that come with it

Yeah, I agree with that

Getting your own animals is expensive & time consuming. It's inconvenient for most people.
You can't decide how local butcher handles it, it's not a very reliable way. It can still end up having bacteria & parasites..
Your "correct natural way" is indeed dangerous & inconvenient.
Only decent way to ensure this is being rich & buying top grade raw meat or letting your servants handle it.
You're completely delusional If you're going to argue this.
The risk is pretty high If you're planning to make it a part of your daily diet. The consequences can be

Yes the sun can age you studies will show a correlation. However, are there any humans in these studies or observations that are in raw primal? 0.

I don’t see sun aging a person if they don’t burn but we can agree to disagree on that. I’ve personally noticed this year I don’t burn, it literally takes hours in uv8+ for me to have a slight burn.

Just because something is inconvenient doesn’t mean it’s not the right way of living. There are no parasites and for the bacteria you have a bigger chance of getting struck by lightning then getting sick if you butcher your own meat or have a competent butcher, you would have to cut open the cows intestines and rectum and rub it all over the meat to potentially get a bacterial infection. This would never happen unless someone did it on purpose.

 

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I also tried raw primal for a year and I got fat, bloated and acne. But I felt very good

Did you drink a lot of milk and eat dairy, perhaps you are lactose intolerant.

 

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Did you drink a lot of milk and eat dairy, perhaps you are lactose intolerant.

Some cheese but mostly just raw liver, and raw eggs