Raw milk

[foidraper398]

Is raw milk actually good or is it just cope?

 

[81xa]

if you are in development theres nothing better than raw milk
shit ton of calcium and vitamins

 

[Vache]

if you don't got an absolutely heavenly source it doesnt have much nutritional benefits. i've drank raw milk from cows i know were healthy and clean and still got sick

 

[81xa]

if you don't got an absolutely heavenly source it doesnt have much nutritional benefits. i've drank raw milk from cows i know were healthy and clean and still got sick

well then they werent healthy retard or you have subhuman immune system
i drank 6L within a week and nothing happened

 

[foidraper398]

if you are in development theres nothing better than raw milk
shit ton of calcium and vitamins

I'm gonna try it for the first time tomorrow

 

[81xa]

I'm gonna try it for the first time tomorrow

taste is different to pasteurised milk its more of an acquired taste

 

[foidraper398]

if you don't got an absolutely heavenly source it doesnt have much nutritional benefits. i've drank raw milk from cows i know were healthy and clean and still got sick

It's 100% grass fed and regeneratively farmed

 

[Vache]

It's 100% grass fed and regeneratively farmed

i'd say just try it

 

[foidraper398]

taste is different to pasteurised milk its more of an acquired taste

Yeah I've been wondering what it tastes like for ages

 

[81xa]

Yeah I've been wondering what it tastes like for ages

but you need to take d3+k2 supplements with it to reap the benefits

 

[foidraper398]

but you need to take d3+k2 supplements with it to reap the benefits

I already take 4000ui d3 and 100ug k2

 

[Aeu]

Cope.

 

[foidraper398]

Cope.

Why do you think that it's cope?

 

[recessedyn]

but you need to take d3+k2 supplements with it to reap the benefits

Do not resuscitate this retard

 

[81xa]

Do not resuscitate this retard

stupid nigger with 0 knowledge

 

[recessedyn]

stupid nigger with 0 knowledge

"you need to take d3+k2 supplements"

 

[Aeu]

Why do you think that it's cope?

Causes 840x more illnesses and 45x more hospitalizations than pasteurized stuff, even though only about 3% of people drink it.

There are literally NO studies proving it has ANY nutritional edge, no lactose intolerance fix, and no proven immune or allergy benefits over pasteurized milk.

Pasteurization changes almost nothing good in the milk but wipes out the shit that can fuck you up.

People say it just tastes better, and I honestly can't argue with that because it's a preference. Still, it's not an argument.

 

[81xa]

"you need to take d3+k2 supplements"

correct, vitamin k2 in particular will guide the calcium to bones
maybe do an ounce of research before attempting to argue with me you fucking retard

 

[recessedyn]

correct, vitamin k2 in particular will guide the calcium to bones
maybe do an ounce of research before attempting to argue with me you fucking retard

"supplement" keep eating that shit up nigga.

 

[foidraper398]

Causes 840x more illnesses and 45x more hospitalizations than pasteurized stuff, even though only about 3% of people drink it.

There are literally NO studies proving it has ANY nutritional edge, no lactose intolerance fix, and no proven immune or allergy benefits over pasteurized milk.

Pasteurization changes almost nothing good in the milk but wipes out the shit that can fuck you up.

People say it just tastes better, and I honestly can't argue with that because it's a preference. Still, it's not an argument.

Yeah but thats only because no one gets sick from pasteurized milk also I'm using a good clean source. Pasteurization denatures a lot of the beneficial bacteria and important enzymes

 

[disco]

Raw milk good yes
Ram milk good looksmax - no it ain’t gon do shit

 

[foidraper398]

Raw milk good yes
Ram milk good looksmax - no it ain’t gon do shit

This logic makes no sense

 

[Aeu]

Yeah but thats only because no one gets sick from pasteurized milk

That's my point...? It's pasteurized milk. That's why people don't get sick drinking it.

also I'm using a good clean source.

It doesn't fucking matter if the source is clean or not. Even certified raw milk farms, grass-fed operations, and those with s-tier hygiene standards still get hit with outbreaks.

No amount of "clean" eliminates the risk because milk leaves the udder open to the dirty farm environment. Dude, these diseases come from cow shit on udders, fecal contamination during milking, infected animals that look healthy, or equipment. Your clean source does not make raw milk safe.

Pasteurization denatures a lot of the beneficial bacteria and important enzymes

No, the fuck it doesn't...? Where did you derive this brain-dead claim from?

 

[81xa]

This logic makes no sense

dont listen to these retards raw milk is the best thing to drink in development

 

[Aeu]

dont listen to these retards raw milk is the best thing to drink in development

charles darwin awards

 

[81xa]

That's my point...? It's pasteurized milk. That's why people don't get sick drinking it.

It doesn't fucking matter if the source is clean or not. Even certified raw milk farms, grass-fed operations, and those with s-tier hygiene standards still get hit with outbreaks.

No amount of "clean" eliminates the risk because milk leaves the udder open to the dirty farm environment. Dude, these diseases come from cow shit on udders, fecal contamination during milking, infected animals that look healthy, or equipment. Your clean source does not make raw milk safe.

No, the fuck it doesn't...? Where did you derive this brain-dead claim from?

Farkye & Imafidon (1995) — "Thermal denaturation of indigenous milk enzymes"

 

[foidraper398]

That's my point...? It's pasteurized milk. That's why people don't get sick drinking it.

It doesn't fucking matter if the source is clean or not. Even certified raw milk farms, grass-fed operations, and those with s-tier hygiene standards still get hit with outbreaks.

No amount of "clean" eliminates the risk because milk leaves the udder open to the dirty farm environment. Dude, these diseases come from cow shit on udders, fecal contamination during milking, infected animals that look healthy, or equipment. Your clean source does not make raw milk safe.

No, the fuck it doesn't...? Where did you derive this brain-dead claim from?

I'm gonna take the risk anyway. Also it's literally a known thing that some nutrients are sensitive to heat lol

 

[81xa]

charles darwin awards

clueless retard award

 

[Aeu]

Farkye & Imafidon (1995) — "Thermal denaturation of indigenous milk enzymes"

Link the actual study. I'll debunk you using your own source.

 

[Aeu]

Also it's literally a known thing that some nutrients are sensitive to heat lol

What the fuck does that have to do with what I said?

 

[foidraper398]

dont listen to these retards raw milk is the best thing to drink in development

Yeah idk what they're on about lol

 

[foidraper398]

What the fuck does that have to do with what I said?

I read that last bit wrong but still, it kills all bacteria so it kills beneficial bacteria aswell

 

[81xa]

Link the actual study. I'll debunk you using your own source.

Effect of pasteurization on long chain polyunsaturated fatty acid levels and enzyme activities of human milk - PubMed

Milk fatty acids, including the polyunsaturated long chain fatty acids essential for retinal function and brain development, are not affected by pasteurization (62.5 degrees C for 30 min). Milk lipases are completely destroyed by pasteurization, whereas amylase lost only 15% of initial activity...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

read table 6

 

[bonemash]

also wanna know

 

[foidraper398]

Instead of putting emojis on my messages why don't you "debunk him using his own source"?

 

[milhouse]

Shi idk

 

[foidraper398]

Shi idk

Is this really your first post

 

[Aeu]

Effect of pasteurization on long chain polyunsaturated fatty acid levels and enzyme activities of human milk - PubMed

Milk fatty acids, including the polyunsaturated long chain fatty acids essential for retinal function and brain development, are not affected by pasteurization (62.5 degrees C for 30 min). Milk lipases are completely destroyed by pasteurization, whereas amylase lost only 15% of initial activity...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

read table 6

You absolute FUCKING RETARD.

Why the fuck would you send me a study on human breast milk pasteurization FOR LITERAL PREMATURE INFANTS IN NEONATAL CARE??

Oh my god. So, your source for arguing that ADULT HUMANS should drink raw cow's milk from a farm is a paper about donor breast milk for babies in the ICU.

I wonder what the paper actually says.

So, using your OWN source:

1. Pasteurization doesn't harm the nutritional content.
2. The fatty acids survive fine.
3. The paper's whole point is that pasteurized donor milk is still beneficial.

How do you not realize that you've just sent me a paper that argues pasteurization is literally ACCEPTABLE and the nutritional value holds to defend drinking a pathogen-contaminated liquid??? This is YOUR OWN source, table 6 or not.

The study has nothing to do with raw cow's milk safety. It has nothing to do with pathogens. It has nothing to do with adult consumption. It quite literally supports pasteurization and that it preserves what matters.

Holy fuck, did you even read your own source?

@foidraper398

This is your target audience, by the way, retard.

 

[milhouse]

Is this really your first post

Yeah lmao

 

[CsCurry]

Worse than regular milk but I guess if you live in the Mongolian steppe and don’t have access to fire it’s probably better than nothing

 

[foidraper398]

You absolute FUCKING RETARD.

Why the fuck would you send me a study on human breast milk pasteurization FOR LITERAL PREMATURE INFANTS IN NEONATAL CARE??

Oh my god. So, your source for arguing that ADULT HUMANS should drink raw cow's milk from a farm is a paper about donor breast milk for babies in the ICU.

I wonder what the paper actually says.

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So, using your OWN source:

1. Pasteurization doesn't harm the nutritional content.
2. The fatty acids survive fine.
3. The paper's whole point is that pasteurized donor milk is still beneficial.

How do you not realize that you've just sent me a paper that argues pasteurization is literally ACCEPTABLE and the nutritional value holds to defend drinking a pathogen-contaminated liquid??? This is YOUR OWN source, table 6 or not.

The study has nothing to do with raw cow's milk safety. It has nothing to do with pathogens. It has nothing to do with adult consumption. It quite literally supports pasteurization and that it preserves what matters.

Holy fuck, did you even read your own source?

@foidraper398

This is your target audience, by the way, retard.

Lol

 

[foidraper398]

Worse than regular milk but I guess if you live in the Mongolian steppe and don’t have access to fire it’s probably better than nothing

I think that it's better than pasteurized

 

[CsCurry]

I think that it's better than pasteurized

It’s better at giving you diarrhea strains that were once localized to the jungles Of the Congo .