Read this before u decide on using steroids during puberty

[iblameautistickids]

As someone who was about to start roiding keep in mind that using testosterone and crashing estrogen has so much side effects even if u try to counteract
Firstly: estrogen is neuro protective and is important for ur heart so blocking estrogen will fuck u up (also is needed for bone development)

Secondly using testosterone while ur hpta is still developing may make u need trt for life (before u say u don’t care about being on trt for life just know that when ur young u do stuff without caring about the future and in the future u may regret it, for example u probably cringed out on the things u said/did a few years ago so u would probably cringe because u started roiding so early) (pct may help but the chance of u being able to recover natural test but the chance is pretty low if u use during puberty) and it won’t do much unless ur in the early stages of puberty looksmaxing wise

Im not gonna tell u whether u should do it or not Im just explaining side effects and the false expectations people have that could happen from pubertymaxxing, me personally i would reccomend hgh while having estrogen as low as u can without having low estrogen side effects but these will still have risks like cancer growth (doesnt cause cancer but can grow it if u have any) and many more that I cbf explaining so if ur goal is growing taller and ur growth playes are open i would say hgh but other then that I would rather just get surgery later on in life instead of using peds

 

[iblameautistickids]

If I made any mistakes lmk, fucked up rn + first dnr gets raped in the ass

 

[jallrd]

What about js enclomaphine?

 

[iblamemandible7]

What about js enclomaphine?

Ts js pmo tbh icl nga cz f u thnk ab ts ngl sybau vro

 

[iblameautistickids]

What about js enclomaphine?

Lowers igf1 and increases estrogen (doubt it would mess u up if ur using it properly, higher IQ users correct me if Im wrong), if ur using hgh or a gh secratagouge and ur managing ur estrogen u will be fine but it’s not gonna do much looksmaxxing wise, unless u wanna take it for thr mental and quality of life benifits

 

[iblameautistickids]

Ts js pmo tbh icl nga cz f u thnk ab ts ngl sybau vro

The fact that I understand half of that is concerning

 

[iblameautistickids]

@Jonasㅤㅤ @chadbeingmade @androgenic

 

[AryanSchizo]

using steroids during puberty when your natty t levels are sky rocketed is the most retarded thing

 

[iblameautistickids]

using steroids during puberty when your natty t levels are sky rocketed is the most retarded thing

I understand why they wanna use it but they gotta understand that there 500mg of test isn’t gonna ascend there face, Im cringing cos I was planning on starting recently (16)

 

[AryanSchizo]

I understand why they wanna use it but they gotta understand that there 500mg of test isn’t gonna ascend there face, Im cringing cos I was planning on starting recently (16)

it’s a facial looksmin and healthmin in general lmaoo. girls especially prime woman aren’t attracted to roided muscles

 

[lowtiersubhuman]

If I made any mistakes lmk, fucked up rn + first dnr gets raped in the ass

Dnr dnr dnr dnr dnr dnr dnr dnr during dnr dnr dnd

 

[iblameautistickids]

it’s a facial looksmin and healthmin in general lmaoo. girls especially prime woman aren’t attracted to roided muscles

There’s ways around the organ stress and looksmin (such as hairloss bloating and ect) but u can start roiding afyer puberty is finished there’s no rush u got ur whole life ahead of u

 

[iblameautistickids]

Dnr dnr dnr dnr dnr dnr dnr dnr during dnr dnr dnd

This why ur subhuman

 

[lowtiersubhuman]

This why ur subhuman

Mama said that it was ok mama said that it was quite alright(I just wanted ass raping good thread boyo

 

[AryanSchizo]

There’s ways around the organ stress and looksmin (such as hairloss bloating and ect) but u can start roiding afyer puberty is finished there’s no rush u got ur whole life ahead of u

taking more drugs bc the drug you took in the first place has shitty sides is not very smart lol. if you wanna be a bodybuilder sure do roids but it’s not worth .

 

[iblameautistickids]

it’s a facial looksmin and healthmin in general lmaoo. girls especially prime woman aren’t attracted to roided muscles

for women It depends on the phenotype Ur tryna attract, most women are into the lean athletic look so u gain some muscle and stay lean but there’s some women who are into a roided uo dude(most the smv gains u would get would be the wider frame and wider neck/masseter muscles if u train em)

 

[iblameautistickids]

Mama said that it was ok mama said that it was quite alright(I just wanted ass raping good thread boyo

 

[lowtiersubhuman]

chode?

 

[Evgeniy291]

As someone who was about to start roiding keep in mind that using testosterone and crashing estrogen has so much side effects even if u try to counteract
Firstly: estrogen is neuro protective and is important for ur heart so blocking estrogen will fuck u up (also is needed for bone development)

Aware that you don’t block all of the estrogen but only a part of it for it to be within physiological limits because due to super physiological amount of testosterone your estradiol also gets to superphysiological number

Secondly using testosterone while ur hpta is still developing may make u need trt for life (before u say u don’t care about being on trt for life just know that when ur young u do stuff without caring about the future and in the future u may regret it, for example u probably cringed out on the things u said/did a few years ago so u would probably cringe because u started roiding so early) (pct may help but the chance of u being able to recover natural test but the chance is pretty low if u use during puberty) and it won’t do much unless ur in the early stages of puberty looksmaxing wise

Trt is more optimal anyway

Im not gonna tell u whether u should do it or not

That’s exactly what you’ve been doing, telling us not to do it

Im just explaining side effects

The only things you explained is that crashes e2 leads to problems and your htpa might not recover

and the false expectations people have that could happen from pubertymaxxing, me personally i would reccomend hgh while having estrogen as low as u can without having low estrogen side effects

Why can’t you do that + test

but these will still have risks like cancer growth (doesnt cause cancer but can grow it if u have any) and many more that I cbf explaining so if ur goal is growing taller and ur growth playes are open i would say hgh but other then that I would rather just get surgery later on in life instead of using peds

Imagine ur going to be more energetic motivated and happier than an average male for ur entire life. That’s a bad thing!!

 

[Evgeniy291]

I understand why they wanna use it but they gotta understand that there 500mg of test isn’t gonna ascend there face, Im cringing cos I was planning on starting recently (16)

Even if test doesn’t grow bones at the age of 16, it still affects fat distribution which will lead you to having a leaner face at the same body fat in future

 

[soggra]

DNR. Steroids are law

 

[Evgeniy291]

There’s ways around the organ stress

Test doesn’t cause significant amount of organ stress

and looksmin (such as hairloss bloating and ect)

Hair loss easily avoidable with duta and RU, bloating is avoidable with lower doses such as 300-400mg, optimal e2 levels and potentially adding mild diuretics like hctz or eplerenone

but u can start roiding afyer puberty is finished there’s no rush u got ur whole life ahead of u

Why wait

 

[iblameautistickids]

Aware that you don’t block all of the estrogen but only a part of it for it to be within physiological limits because due to super physiological amount of testosterone your estradiol also gets to superphysiological number

Trt is more optimal anyway

That’s exactly what you’ve been doing, telling us not to do it

The only things you explained is that crashes e2 leads to problems and your htpa might not recover

Why can’t you do that + test

Imagine ur going to be more energetic motivated and happier than an average male for ur entire life. That’s a bad thing!!

Firstly Im sayinf there’s people who block there estrogen during puberty and Im explaining how thats very dangerous (ur meant to keep it low to prevent growth plate closure but not low where u have low estrogen symptoms)

Trt is optimal for quality of life and muscle gain but I would reccomend it during puberty (this thread is about pubertymaxxing)

High rn so I can’t type for shit but my intention is to say that using test during puberty is useless unless ur in the early stages of puberty (which is the most retarded thing to do) and if u wait till u finish there’s way less side effects and there’s a much higher chance u can go natty in the future if u want to.

And during puberty ur t levels are already really high, it’s very rare for a teen wirh good training diet sleep and ect to have low t and if u do u should go to an endroconologist to see if u have any medical conditions causing it

 

[iblameautistickids]

Even if test doesn’t grow bones at the age of 16, it still affects fat distribution which will lead you to having a leaner face at the same body fat in future

Jus do fat grafting

 

[iblameautistickids]

Test doesn’t cause significant amount of organ stress

Hair loss easily avoidable with duta and RU, bloating is avoidable with lower doses such as 300-400mg, optimal e2 levels and potentially adding mild diuretics like hctz or eplerenone

Why wait

I was countering his argument of steroids being a looksmin, I said if used properly it isn’t gonna looksminimise u and training natty until u finish puberty will help u make the most out of the roids (don’t forget steroids arent a performance replacer there performance enhancers) and waiting a few years minimises a lot of the side effects

 

[Evgeniy291]

Firstly Im sayinf there’s people who block there estrogen during puberty and Im explaining how thats very dangerous (ur meant to keep it low to prevent growth plate closure but not low where u have low estrogen symptoms)

Dangerous doesn’t mean should be avoided completely

Eating food means there’s a risk to become fat if you eat more than needed.

Trt is optimal for quality of life and muscle gain but I would reccomend it during puberty (this thread is about pubertymaxxing)

The only potential downside to trt and high dose cycles during puberty is its effect on brain development which I’m not sure will happen to a significant degree at trt doses assuming you ran just a cycle

High rn so I can’t type for shit but my intention is to say that using test during puberty is useless

How do you know

unless ur in the early stages of puberty (which is the most retarded thing to do) and if u wait till u finish there’s way less side effects and there’s a much higher chance u can go natty in the future if u want to.

What side effects disappear

And during puberty ur t levels are already really high,

Not necessarily, most people are still going to stay around 600ng ngdl which isn’t necessarily low but it’s not high neither.

it’s very rare for a teen wirh good training diet sleep and ect to have low t

It’s not about avoiding low t but getting high t

and if u do u should go to an endroconologist to see if u have any medical conditions causing it

They don’t give a flying fuck, last time I went to one about my gyno, she asked me why do I take zync and why do I need higher testosterone why do u wanna be more aggressive. And a decently sized lump was ignored by her
Ended up getting a surgery some months later

 

[Evgeniy291]

Jus do fat grafting

I was countering his argument of steroids being a looksmin, I said if used properly it isn’t gonna looksminimise u and training natty until u finish puberty will help u make the most out of the roids

Yes if ur goal is physique

(don’t forget steroids arent a performance replacer there performance enhancers) and waiting a few years minimises a lot of the side effects

What side effects are you minimizing

 

[iblameautistickids]

Dangerous doesn’t mean should be avoided completely

Eating food means there’s a risk to become fat if you eat more than needed.

The only potential downside to trt and high dose cycles during puberty is its effect on brain development which I’m not sure will happen to a significant degree at trt doses assuming you ran just a cycle

How do you know

What side effects disappear

Not necessarily, most people are still going to stay around 600ng ngdl which isn’t necessarily low but it’s not high neither.

It’s not about avoiding low t but getting high t

They don’t give a flying fuck, last time I went to one about my gyno, she asked me why do I take zync and why do I need higher testosterone why do u wanna be more aggressive. And a decently sized lump was ignored by her
Ended up getting a surgery some months later

Trt isn’t gonna fuck up brain development, steroids can actually be good for the brain in trt doses (not sports trt) but if thr doses are high it’s bad for ur brain,
If u wait till puberty finishes u can avoid the possible interference of ur hpta development and the stress of having to keep estrogen in control to avoid premature growth plate closure

And in ur case where thr endroconologist jus told u to take zinc i would go to different ones and if u cant find any that would give u high IQ treatment do it urself afyer doing a lot of research (sounds hypocritical of me to enforce it to u but u may medically need it)

 

[iblameautistickids]

Yes if ur goal is physique

What side effects are you minimizing

If ur goal is physique u can wait a few years and avoid the side effects i just mentioned in my other reply

 

[Evgeniy291]

Trt isn’t gonna fuck up brain development, steroids can actually be good for the brain in trt doses (not sports trt) but if thr doses are high it’s bad for ur brain,

Then what’s the point of this thread

If u wait till puberty finishes u can avoid the possible interference of ur hpta development

Doesn’t really matter, trt is 50$ a year, 4$ a month. Up to an individual to decide whether he’s down to pin till end of his life

and the stress of having to keep estrogen in control to avoid premature growth plate closure

The only valid argument, yet it’s avoidable if you do enough research into high or low e2 symptoms and do blood work in a private clinic. Which can be problematic. For me - I tested my e2, we have a private clinic right outside of my house, the test is 5$ and I get results next day. As easy as it can be

And in ur case where thr endroconologist jus told u to take zinc

No she said to stop taking it since I don’t need more testosterone as its useless and would just make me more aggressive

i would go to different ones

A kid isn’t gonna know the difference between a good and a bad one

and if u cant find any that would give u high IQ treatment do it urself afyer doing a lot of research (sounds hypocritical of me to enforce it to u but u may medically need it)

Which is what I did

 

[Evgeniy291]

If ur goal is physique u can wait a few years and avoid the side effects i just mentioned in my other reply

What are the side effects ur minimizing by waiting btw

 

[iblameautistickids]

What are the side effects ur minimizing by waiting btw

Fucking up ur hpta development I said it like 8 times

 

[Evgeniy291]

Fucking up ur hpta development I said it like 8 times

ok

 

[iblameautistickids]

DNR. Steroids are law

 

[7koe7hh]

As someone who was about to start roiding keep in mind that using testosterone and crashing estrogen has so much side effects even if u try to counteract
Firstly: estrogen is neuro protective and is important for ur heart so blocking estrogen will fuck u up (also is needed for bone development)

Secondly using testosterone while ur hpta is still developing may make u need trt for life (before u say u don’t care about being on trt for life just know that when ur young u do stuff without caring about the future and in the future u may regret it, for example u probably cringed out on the things u said/did a few years ago so u would probably cringe because u started roiding so early) (pct may help but the chance of u being able to recover natural test but the chance is pretty low if u use during puberty) and it won’t do much unless ur in the early stages of puberty looksmaxing wise

Im not gonna tell u whether u should do it or not Im just explaining side effects and the false expectations people have that could happen from pubertymaxxing, me personally i would reccomend hgh while having estrogen as low as u can without having low estrogen side effects but these will still have risks like cancer growth (doesnt cause cancer but can grow it if u have any) and many more that I cbf explaining so if ur goal is growing taller and ur growth playes are open i would say hgh but other then that I would rather just get surgery later on in life instead of using peds

DNR

 

[iblameautistickids]

DNR

Bro wanted to get raped

 

[-=t3rm1n4t0r_2005=-]

dnr
I blast 1g test per day and eat AI's like dessert
At the end of the day it's high T for the bone mass and muscle mass, and low E to keep those growth plates open right?