realistically, how much muscle gain can I expect from hgh and slin usage without roids

[DNRDniggerking]

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4 ius gh daily, and insulin 10 ius pre workout. no forms of AAS

roidcels and people who know their shit is this cope? will this make any difference.

 

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@20/04/2008

 

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Insulin and hgh for muscle growth is used when roids are not enough anymore by bodybuilders that ive seen

 

[DNRDniggerking]

Insulin and hgh for muscle growth is used when roids are not enough anymore by bodybuilders that ive seen

true. I am gonna use gh anyways but I am here to figure out how much push it would guve for gymcelling when combined with slin

 

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@DORIAN

 

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title.
4 ius gh daily, and insulin 10 ius pre workout. no forms of AAS

roidcels and people who know their shit is this cope? will this make any difference.

Hyperplasia is long term not short term
If you see any changes in the mirror its just water retention (not bloat not the bad one the good one if you use 4 iu
Also for slin use either humalog or lantus)
Bro just use 300 mg test with 12.5 aromasin i swear to god if you add test to your stack you will achieve your dream physique in 8 months if your training and diet is somewhat normal

 

[DNRDniggerking]

Hyperplasia is long term not short term
If you see any changes in the mirror its just water retention (not bloat not the bad one the good one if you use 4 iu
Also for slin use either humalog or lantus)
Bro just use 300 mg test with 12.5 aromasin i swear to god if you add test to your stack you will achieve your dream physique in 8 months if your training and diet is somewhat normal

issues with test, I cant get around its risks man. I know retards here are roiding at 15 but even at 20 after months and months of research I find it very risky to play with my hormones and risk TRT for life, TRT is just not an attractive idea to me. also hairloss, fucking hell I am losing hair on the middest natural test imagine if I go ahead and roid, you can say fin and dut, but post fin syndrom is quite real, and again the risk to me is just not worth it and plus with 0 DHT during I'll struggle with e2 issues and I already have pubertal gyno if it grows I'll fucking kill myself. test is to much trouble for me. hgh and insulin, although less growth but definitely way less risky for me at least.