Reasons that could make you reconsider the use of finasteride

[Dastan]

 

[Achilles]

Finasteride is a total poison.
It does way fucking more than just inhibit DHT. It shuts down 14+ other hormones that also use 5AR and whatever else we dont even know about scientifically. Anyone trusting big pharma on this shit is being misled.

I used a topical low dose version with minox for a few months and I quit after it felt like it was mentally feminizing + increasing low grade anxiety. Combined with I was fucking this polish girl and I had to cum in like 30 seconds and when i nutted my sperm was like water... both at night and in the morning. That was my wake up call for quitting. Before that, my nut had still been normal but once i saw that i was like nah this stuff is clearly wrong and I went and did REAL research and not trusting fucking bullshit liar clowns like Hair cafe who have been exposed as total frauds.

 

[mathis]

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You can cycle minox all your life if you respond well without using fin

 

[Dastan]

Finasteride is a total poison.
It does way fucking more than just inhibit DHT. It shuts down 14+ other hormones that also use 5AR and whatever else we dont even know about scientifically. Anyone trusting big pharma on this shit is being misled.

I used a topical low dose version with minox for a few months and I quit after it felt like it was mentally feminizing + increasing low grade anxiety. Combined with I was fucking this polish girl and I had to cum in like 30 seconds and when i nutted my sperm was like water... both at night and in the morning. That was my wake up call for quitting. Before that, my nut had still been normal but once i saw that i was like nah this stuff is clearly wrong and I went and did REAL research and not trusting fucking bullshit liar clowns like Hair cafe who have been exposed as total frauds.

I did the research and found a couple of ways to still keep using fin and prevent hairloss with 0 side effects including sperm damaging consequences. I already posted it in discord server if you are interested

 

[IAMNOTANINCEL]

just take estrogen tbh. mtf trannies completely reverse norwooding with it

 

[Dastan]

You can cycle minox all your life if you respond well without using fin

Minox can potentially cause irreversible heart damage. Not ever using it for that reason

 

[Achilles]

I did the research and found a couple of ways to still keep using fin and prevent hairloss with 0 side effects including sperm damaging consequences. I already posted it in discord server if you are interested

Post it, i dont think theres any safe way to take it. Its poison
Balding = systemic health issue caused by diet and enviroment. Its that simple. No magic bullet for it. Finasteride is a progesterone analogue as well

 

[mathis]

Minox can potentially cause irreversible heart damage. Not ever using it for that reason

Topical barely goes systemic there is absolutely no risk
And even for oral heart issues are VERY rare

 

[Dastan]

just take estrogen tbh. mtf trannies completely reverse norwooding with it
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It’s absolutely not relevant/useful info but solid fucking transformation nevertheless

 

[mathis]

Post it, i dont think theres any safe way to take it. Its poison
Balding = systemic health issue caused by diet and enviroment. Its that simple. No magic bullet for it. Finasteride is a progesterone analogue as well

Yes bro ! Just eat a balances diet and drink some raw Milk your AGA will go away !

 

[Dastan]

Post it, i dont think theres any safe way to take it. Its poison
Balding = systemic health issue caused by diet and enviroment. Its that simple. No magic bullet for it. Finasteride is a progesterone analogue as well

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[Dastan]

Topical barely goes systemic there is absolutely no risk
And even for oral heart issues are VERY rare

Topical minox 2% twice per day:

1. Long-term use of minoxidil can lead to several cardiovascular issues, including fluid retention, increased heart rate, and potential heart muscle damage. These effects are due to the increased workload on the heart as it compensates for the lowered blood pressure

2. Clinical studies have shown that minox can lead to significant side effects. These include pericardial effusion (fluid around the heart) and potential heart enlargement.

3. Left ventricle hypertrophy

Reference: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1386573/pdf/brjclinpharm00094-0143.pdf

4. Anecdotal tier evidence of increase in PVC (heart palpitations)

 

[Achilles]

Yes bro ! Just eat a balances diet and drink some raw Milk your AGA will go away !

Thats solid advice. Now lower your stress + get sunlight + stop using toxic shampoo + and stop being exposed to blue light and EMF 24/7 as well. There are a lot more other things to fix.

 

[nuisance]

The only thing that worries me is if it will have any affect on my kids, i heard you stop finasteride 3 months before trying for a kid just as a precaution.

 

[Dastan]

Thats solid advice. Now lower your stress + get sunlight + stop using toxic shampoo + and stop being exposed to blue light and EMF 24/7 as well. There are a lot more other things to fix.

Nah man that’s total cope not trying to be offensive

 

[mathis]

Topical minox 2% twice per day:

1. Long-term use of minoxidil can lead to several cardiovascular issues, including fluid retention, increased heart rate, and potential heart muscle damage. These effects are due to the increased workload on the heart as it compensates for the lowered blood pressure

2. Clinical studies have shown that minox can lead to significant side effects. These include pericardial effusion (fluid around the heart) and potential heart enlargement.

3. Left ventricle hypertrophy

Reference: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1386573/pdf/brjclinpharm00094-0143.pdf

4. Anecdotal tier evidence of increase in PVC (heart palpitations)

Forget to mention that you have less than 0,1% chance to get any cardiovascular issues and way less when they become importants, and way less when they become irreversible
Keep lying to yourself lazy ahhh

 

[mathis]

Thats solid advice. Now lower your stress + get sunlight + stop using toxic shampoo + and stop being exposed to blue light and EMF 24/7 as well. There are a lot more other things to fix.

Just say you know nothing abt AGA at that point

 

[Dastan]

The only thing that worries me is if it will have any affect on my kids, i heard you stop finasteride 3 months before trying for a kid just as a precaution.

Yea exactly why I started the research, turns out the 3 month isn’t enough. I even already bought it lmao didn’t take anything yet. But I think there still a way to use it safely. Join the disc server, bc i wanna discuss some topics privately, I have some ideas/solutions for that matter https://discord.gg/jXfn9dgh

 

[Dastan]

Forget to mention that you have less than 0,1% chance to get any cardiovascular issues and way less when they become importants, and way less when they become irreversible
Keep lying to yourself lazy ahhh

Where did you get 0.1% lol? The chances are low I agree with that. You do you ofc, but heart issues are EXTREMELY distressing much worse than hairloss imo, so it’s a matter of priority. I’ll maybe research on minox more bc after I mentioned those side effects to you it looks like they are based on the fact that heart just works more and it’s not necessarily pathological

 

[count grishnackh]

enjoy being bald retards

 

[mathis]

Where did you get 0.1% lol? The chances are low I agree with that. You do you ofc, but heart issues are EXTREMELY distressing much worse than hairloss imo, so it’s a matter of priority. I’ll maybe research on minox more bc after I mentioned those side effects to you it looks like they are based on the fact that heart just works more and it’s not necessarily pathological

Yes its because the heart have to work more
But its not a lot when topical so it barely change anything
Really nothing to worry abt
I dont remember the name of the study but i did saw 0,1% chances of heart issues for minox

 

[Deleted member 70662]

Did u morph ur own face with Sean opry or sm shit ?

 

[Dastan]

Did u morph ur own face with Sean opry or sm shit ?

Maybe

 

[Imretarded?]

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study 1 has one dude, study two has three dudes.

The literal definition of not statistically useful.

OP we know fin CAN lead to decreased fertility. This shit is hammered into our heads 24/7 by this forum. People do the cost benefit analysis and decide that the risks aren't common enough to out weigh keeping your hair.

 

[Imretarded?]

just take estrogen tbh. mtf trannies completely reverse norwooding with it
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but that increases risk of infertility to like 90%

 

[nuisance]

Nah man that’s total cope not trying to be offensive

but that increases risk of infertility to like 90%

what are your thoughts on the study you missed in the middle? https://www.mdpi.com/1467-3045/43/2/62

 

[SubhumanForever]

>Mental health risks
Stopped reading there

 

[BrutalMogger]

yes it is poison

 

[Deleted member 44222]

dnr pussy

 

[Deleted member 24554]

I did the research and found a couple of ways to still keep using fin and prevent hairloss with 0 side effects including sperm damaging consequences. I already posted it in discord server if you are interested

what are they?

 

[Deleted member 24554]

Does Dutasteride have the same effects?

 

[Dastan]

what are they?

Join disc server

 

[Dastan]

Does Dutasteride have the same effects?

Yea

 

[Dastan]

study 1 has one dude, study two has three dudes.

The literal definition of not statistically useful.

OP we know fin CAN lead to decreased fertility. This shit is hammered into our heads 24/7 by this forum. People do the cost benefit analysis and decide that the risks aren't common enough to out weigh keeping your hair.

Exactly. I think I overexagerated the hazards

 

[Dastan]

Update: basically fin isn’t that bad in terms of sperm damage according to current data. I’ve been discussing this topic with @nuisance in disc server and the sperm damage dna damage is reversible basically, rat study used 375x more than daily oral use of 1mg (more than you take in a year per day) and last study has no causality evidence

 

[Deleted member 16462]

Join disc server

post here I'm not joining tranny discord

 

[Doesitmatter?]

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