Reasons to not use enclomephene?

[JohnBricks]

What are the side effects? Reading through studies it all seems pretty mild for a 80-150% increase in test.

Does the increased test cause baldness?

 

[fatweewee123]

gives higher estrogen levels

 

[gooner23]

why not just get actual test probably less risky at lower doses

 

[JohnBricks]

gives higher estrogen levels

Due to the higher test? I haven't ready any gyno or w/e as a side effect tbh

 

[JohnBricks]

why not just get actual test probably less risky at lower doses

From what I've read Enclo seems way less risky. You don't shut down your own system, less estrogen, no need for a post cycle therapy etc etc

 

[Saint Casanova]

Lowers IGF-1 quite significantly

 

[gooner23]

From what I've read Enclo seems way less risky. You don't shut down your own system, less estrogen, no need for a post cycle therapy etc etc

thats the point low dose test is probably safer, just 140-200mg, but at the end why take anything at all

 

[Deleted member 23391]

lowers igf-1
estrogenic on bone (will close growth plates)
bad for eyesight
raises SHBG

 

[JohnBricks]

Lowers IGF-1 quite significantly

Haven't seen much besides Greg's video about IGF-1 issues. But then again, you can stop any time.

 

[JohnBricks]

thats the point low dose test is probably safer, just 140-200mg, but at the end why take anything at all

140-200mg is a TRT dose at the minimum. This will shut you down 100%.

To increase muscle mass.

 

[JohnBricks]

lowers igf-1
estrogenic on bone (will close growth plates)
bad for eyesight
raises SHBG

Eyesight is clomephene, not enclomephene.

 

[gooner23]

140-200mg is a TRT dose at the minimum. This will shut you down 100%.

To increase muscle mass.

you literally would have to take multiple things to be completely fine with clomiphene same as test but you would just get way more from test. Test is probably the safest possible thing you could take but you should take nothing