Redpillers: "women hit the wall at 30 because nobody wants them so they stop caring about looks go fuck resources and stability"

[fogdart]

"Do the work boys! You'll have your pick of women when you 35 and a CEO of a company" "Women don't care about looks after 30 - it's all about stability, resources and the experiences you can provide" "Lifting weights, getting money and abiding by masculine virtues will get you women when you're 25+" - Hamza in his debate with Wheat Waffles.

Me: In today's world, childless women in their 30s are even more selective about looks than ever before because most have jobs that pay them well - the only women who truly hit the wall are single moms. Also, majority of men in the real world are not redpilled/blackpilled and will not see a problem with dating an attractive childless woman in her 30s, hell attractive single moms can even pull good looking guys for LTR/marriage in today's age of online dating. Most women over 30 will choose a Chad barista over a normie banker make over 200k a year. The only women who truly care about money are gold diggers, sugar babies (escorts) and broke single moms, who want a betabux. The only thing that rivals looks is status i.e. being very famous. If any woman dates below her looksmatch i.e. normie betabux whether post-wall or not, she'll treat him like an abused dog and treat sex with him like a chore instead of something to be enjoyed.

Examples of women after "the wall"

Inb4 "Hollywood is not real life" "Cherrypicked examples". These men are GL and statusmaxxed, they could slay any JB, but bluepilled don't care whether the woman is 30+ as long as she's childless and attractive

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[volcelfatcel]

indeed
the wall is kind of a meme but most chads still prefer to fuck 20+ year olds and do long term things

30+ year olds are ONS only when theyre bored

 

[Lawton88]

I agree with most of that. I am in Florida and what I see is there is only a "Wall" for the 30+ decent/good looking female that thinks she is going to secure a well to do Chad her age for marriage just because they will bang her. That rare Chad that is well off financially is almost always going to marry well under his age. The difference from now and years ago is these women are so delusional due to social media etc. that they end up getting bitter and end up single late in life. A few will take the Betabuxxer but not nearly as many that would years ago.

When it comes to one night stands etc for single men the "Wall" doesn't apply at all and only a Chad has the same choices like that 30+ decent looking female does.

 

[fogdart]

indeed
the wall is kind of a meme but most chads still prefer to fuck 20+ year olds and do long term things

30+ year olds are ONS only when theyre bored

Only based Chads care about a woman's numerical age - bluepilled Chads will fuck any woman they find attractive. Most chads are bluepilled.

 

[volcelfatcel]

Only based Chads care about a woman's numerical age - bluepilled Chads will fuck any woman they find attractive. Most chads are bluepilled.

i think you are underrating amount of based chads
they are unaware of the fact theyre blackpilled but subconcious is fully blackpilled

Brett Maverick just dumps chicks like nothing

 

[oldcelloser]

I dont care and you shouldnt "date" in the traditional sense ; ill be late 30s when fully looksmaxxed/ somewhat status , money maxxed and the ONLY options for a sane older man are:
1. escorts (arent worth it in the West tbh)
2. Tinder age frauding and try to look 10+ yrs younger(a la @Amnesia )
3. overseas women arbitrage (probably green card game tbh)
4. overseas escorts (SEA and cheaper countries? to maximize ROI)

so most likely no 3 and 4
its ok, if you are content to living alone, as i am, if you have emotional codependecy issues, then you'll betabuxx a roastie ultimately

 

[fogdart]

i think you are underrating amount of based chads
they are unaware of the fact theyre blackpilled but subconcious is fully blackpilled

Brett Maverick just dumps chicks like nothing

And there's Brandon Walsh, a chad whose GF is an OnlyFans girl who rates dick pics for a living and has a body count more than twice his (. His GF is constantly cucking him on youtube. Most psl chads are either married or in a LTR, which is not based according to this forum. I think most Chads are bluepilled.

 

[cvzvvc]

Average 30+ year old women in NYC has her pick of any type of guy she wants provided she's in decent shape. I've personally seen the accounts of these women. I don't bang many 30+ year olds and actively avoid them because of baby rabies and general mental instability, so maybe 1 or 2 a year, but we're talking 2000+ matches in a day or two on Tinder from what I've seen.

The Wall is just a vengeful cope. The Redpill copers need to sell this bullshit fantasy to their audience because: "Yeah, just you wait until you're 30 with a good career, you can get any woman you want! Until then, keep buying my e-books and donating!". Pathetic fucks.

 

[eduardkoopman]

imo, it depends ALL on, wether a dude wnts children or not?

If a dude doesn't want children. Than there is no objective reason for him to care about her age. As long as she floats his boat, it's good.
If a dude does want children. Than her age matters alot.


If a dude does want children. He better be able to appeal to women in her twenties to very early 30's.
From what I see around here where I life. Most women have their children in late 20's or early 30's. So, if a dude here wants kids, he needs to be able to appeal to women in that age range. Otherwise if a dude doesn't wnat kids, who cares. he can go any age, it doesn't matter in consequences anyways.


Netherlands situation.
We didn't become the tallest, and good looking Chads/Stacies nation. By women here being into BetaBuxxing. Lookism and heightism has been running rampant in Netherlands for long time already.

What do women where I life whom wants to have children want in the age range of mid 20's to early 30's? in my observation, basically this list is most important:
* looks.
* height.
* looking strongish, physical capable to hold onself in a situation of conflict.
* fun
* him being able to help with care and stuff after baby is born, kind 50/50-ish or maybe more like 70/30. So she can continue to work after child is born, most often with less hours. Anyways, they want significant input from the man. I seen guy get rejected, because they wanted a stay at mom wife/gf whom does everything around the house but no job, and him bringing all the income. Women here want the maintain a level of independance; and for that to be able to happen the dude needs to stepup inchildcare and practial household activities.
* him making at least equalish income as her (or more. Him making alot does gives bonus points but limited/little I notice here).

income wise, it looks like this (see graph below) usually here in Netherlands.
Usually women makes equalish income as him, before kids happen. Most childless women work in Netherlands, and wome with kids work parttime usually here.
Woman gets child. And woman goes working 40% less/parttime. So makes 40% less than him; since he stays fulltime working usually.
Women in Netherlands are not much money oriented compared places like USA, in my observation. Hence betabuxx doesn't work here that well. It's looks, looks, looks and heigth first. Money is easily obtained here in netherlands, even wellfare people can life well if they know how to hustle on the sides.

Lookism and heightism = tallest nation on earth.

 

[fogdart]

Genesis 1:27 - So God created Chad in his own image, in the image of God created he him; slayer and female created he them. Incels, he didnt give a hoot about them.

 

[Reckless Turtle]

Men's AMV (aggregate market value) can increase over time as their RMV (relationship market value) increases (financial gains). Women's AMV decreases over time by default.

Most women will need a man in order to live a somewhat comfortable, middle-class life, especially once they're into their 30s.

In your examples, the men are very likely concerned about public image, so they've chosen famous women to associate with.

 

[fogdart]

Men's AMV (aggregate market value) can increase over time as their RMV (relationship market value) increases (financial gains). Women's AMV decreases over time by default.

Most women will need a man in order to live a somewhat comfortable, middle-class life, especially once they're into their 30s.

In your examples, the men are very likely concerned about public image, so they've chosen famous women to associate with.

Too much copium in this reply

 

[kalefartbomb]

The wall used to mean an age at which women have less SMV than men and thus men become the sexual selectors. It was used by redpill/MRA/MGTOW types to mean that if you just hold on and focus on career eventually you will reach an age where sexual dynamics are reversed and you have your pick of women.

It's all complete bullshit and cope. They keep watering down the meaning of "the wall" such that now they think just because a 30 year old woman can't get a 25 year old Chad (they can, quite easily if they stay in shape) it means she has hit the wall. This is still bullshit.

Male sexual selection has always been an anomaly for extremely attractive men. The vast majority of men are selected by women, at all ages. There is no wall, she can be from a poor country, a single mother, past 30, and she will have a much easier time replacing a man than vice versa.

 

[APJ]

Women over 27-28 are noticeably harder to pull than women 19-24. Way more bullshit to put up with as they’ve been jaded from years of modern dating plus they’ve had more time to sleep around with way hotter guys than you, both inuring them to the magical powers of good (male) looks but also making it harder for them to feel strong desire for you.

The ‘wall’ is one of the biggest lies told.

 

[tyronelite]

I like Hamza.. he represents his race well.

 

[Ethniframementalcel]

And there's Brandon Walsh, a chad whose GF is an OnlyFans girl who rates dick pics for a living and has a body count more than twice his (. His GF is constantly cucking him on youtube. Most psl chads are either married or in a LTR, which is not based according to this forum. I think most Chads are bluepilled.

that dude is gay as hell

 

[Lihito]

I like Hamza.. he represents his race well.

Its beyond me how that redpiller cant just agnowledge he is a chad

 

[mulattomaxxer]

Nice post, the idea that women hit the wall at 30 is uber cope. Its just a redpill revenge fantasy to cope with wasting your youth.

99% of women vs the wall.

 

[Deleted member 16552]

Also consider this....single women work WAY harder to stay attractive then they did before and in their mid-late 40's and 50's, if they have kids they're in their 20's and the fuck out of the house so they don't even count. Slay hot women in their 50's , they're definitely out there and they usually don't play games. They will tell you what the fuck they want.