religion is indicative of high iq

[mohito]

can you give me some reading suggestions pretty plz

For me it’s mostly homer but any kind of mythology will do, just make sure it’s the lattimore translation

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

firstly, either

A: God is real
B: god may not be real
and also
A: you may believe in God
B: you might not

no matter if there is a 99.9% chance of God being false, infinite heaven outweighs any finite life, if God is false then you just die and don't see any confirmation you were wrong and will gain no regrets on having lived a life of enjoyment or worship
if God is real though then you either are rewarded for all of eternity or suffer
its always the better option to believe in God atleast mathematically, your goal should then be to go to pascal wagerheaven

Pascal wager asss nigga thread

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Pascals wager is the most midwitted, surface level argument ever jfl

You are forgetting that there are (and have been) thousands of different religions, and an infinite amount yet to be told

By not worshipping some random pagan deity of a pagan culture that died 4000 years ago you are risking eternal damnation just as much as an atheist is by not worshipping yours

If anything, worshipping one god is picking a side, picking none at least might see a benevolent god grant you mercy for your ignorance

Yep which is why this argument is terrible. There’s a reason why Christianity is the only truth proving it as the only coherent necessary way for our current existence but this is silly man

 

[Algernon]

Pascal wager asss nigga thread

yeah
pascals wager is true

 

[NinjaRG9]

you were wrong and will gain no regrets on having lived a life of enjoyment or worship

You give up your normal desires for daddy jesus and other stuff you want to do, and if you do do them inevitably you feel bad
Theres definitely something to regret

 

[Algernon]

Skipping ladders for hypotheticals doesnt make sense when a rigorous metaphysical proof for the existence of God itself has not been established

the point of my argument is that a proof does exist (not using physics, but more so using philosophy, risk, and internal logic in most religions and if a religion can hold internal logic without relying on saying God is greater then logic)
i'm not going to rigorously prove everythinf
also i never said a specific religion is true, i js said you should believe there is a God (agnostics do infact have higher iq then athteists), and while we don't know what God we can make educated guesses on how many etc and form an ideal religion that has internal logic, and then look at religions that fit this (tend to be abrahamic)

 

[birthdefect]

firstly, either

A: God is real
B: god may not be real
and also
A: you may believe in God
B: you might not

no matter if there is a 99.9% chance of God being false, infinite heaven outweighs any finite life, if God is false then you just die and don't see any confirmation you were wrong and will gain no regrets on having lived a life of enjoyment or worship
if God is real though then you either are rewarded for all of eternity or suffer
its always the better option to believe in God atleast mathematically, your goal should then be to go to heaven

low iq to think about pascals wager
theres so many religions how do you know the one you believe in is the right one
if there is a just god the best you can do is just be good

 

[random subhuman]

firstly, either

A: God is real
B: god may not be real
and also
A: you may believe in God
B: you might not

no matter if there is a 99.9% chance of God being false, infinite heaven outweighs any finite life, if God is false then you just die and don't see any confirmation you were wrong and will gain no regrets on having lived a life of enjoyment or worship
if God is real though then you either are rewarded for all of eternity or suffer
its always the better option to believe in God atleast mathematically, your goal should then be to go to heaven

 

[Algernon]

You give up your normal desires for daddy jesus and other stuff you want to do, and if you do do them inevitably you feel bad
Theres definitely something to regret

yeah

 

[Algernon]

low iq to think about pascals wager
theres so many religions how do you know the one you believe in is the right one
if there is a just god the best you can do is just be good

the point is that there is a god
meaning that one religion is correct, the point is just that it validates an argument of assuming religion is correct to verify your exploration of religion (persobally why I believe in the abrahmic religions), and you can use logic to find which ones can be true and then make a list of best ones
idk what God is true, but I choose to believe in one that I believe gives me the greatest odds to go to heaven

 

[Algernon]

Hard disagree, what if ur God isn't real? Remember there are and have been MANY religions so the chances of yours being the real one are laughable honestly.

read any of my responses on page 2, point is God exists and you should try atleast

 

[NinjaRG9]

yeah

Well then no its not better to always follow god because you give up certain things for him

 

[Matrix88]

read any of my responses on page 2, point is God exists and you should try atleast

I mean there could be a God, but that doesn't mean its okay to believe in some religion made to control people from cavemen era.

I think people should realize that religion was made just to give answers to shit we didn't and don't know

 

[svarddre]

It can be both

 

[Matrix88]

Well then no its not better to always follow god because you give up certain things for him

and different religions give up different things JFL

 

[Algernon]

Well then no its not better to always follow god because you give up certain things for him

the things you give up are finite and timely
you risk giving up eternity
your not giving anything up but instead making a trade

 

[Matrix88]

read any of my responses on page 2, point is God exists and you should try atleast

dude we are just living forms in a rock from space, universe is massive af, why would WE be the main characters of life, that's so low IQ

 

[Matrix88]

the things you give up are finite and timely
you risk giving up eternity
your not giving anything up but instead making a trade

your life is the only thing that matters, what if eternity doesn't exist and you gave up everything? Even if a God existed that doesn't mean there's an afterlife

 

[LXR]

the point of my argument is that a proof does exist (not using physics, but more so using philosophy, risk, and internal logic in most religions and if a religion can hold internal logic without relying on saying God is greater then logic)
i'm not going to rigorously prove everythinf
also i never said a specific religion is true, i js said you should believe there is a God (agnostics do infact have higher iq then athteists), and while we don't know what God we can make educated guesses on how many etc and form an ideal religion that has internal logic, and then look at religions that fit this (tend to be abrahamic)

Except you make the mistake of giving equal weights to both arguments, when the arguments for there not being a God are more comprehensive than those that state that there is one. Most theologists try to overcome these by using theodicies which is not as rigorous as forming a coherent response

 

[Algernon]

your life is the only thing that matters, what if eternity doesn't exist and you gave up everything? Even if a God existed that doesn't mean there's an afterlife

if you gave everything up and you died, then you have no awareness
no regrets

 

[Matrix88]

if you gave everything up and you died, then you have no awareness
no regrets

but at some point you are gonna think about what you're restricting yourself for "eternity".

Anyways isn't eternity a torture? I didn't ask to be born in this stupid world and I can't decide to be gone???? Either I suffer on hell or paradise, that's CRAZY

 

[Algernon]

Except you make the mistake of giving equal weights to both arguments, when the arguments for there not being a God are more comprehensive than those that state that there is one. Most theologists try to overcome these by using theodicies which is not as rigorous as forming a coherent response

even with equal weights infinity outweighs any probability
still idk what a theodicy is so i cant really argue this, but aslong as the probability of God being true is greater then 0 then it is worth it
if its 0 then it actually just has no purpose

 

[Algernon]

but at some point you are gonna think about what you're restricting yourself for "eternity".

Anyways isn't eternity a torture? I didn't ask to be born in this stupid world and I can't decide to be gone???? Either I suffer on hell or paradise, that's CRAZY

i mean i think its pretty logical God will be aware that you think eternity is torture
you may be altered to never adapt and never bet bored of it etc
assuming God is real and that you are in this heaven now, before if I said God is above logic it would be hand-waving but now that we are going under the assumption its true and your in heaven God could essily rewrite your brain chemistry etc to make you never sdapt and get bored of Heaven

 

[LXR]

even with equal weights infinity outweighs any probability
still idk what a theodicy is so i cant really argue this, but aslong as the probability of God being true is greater then 0 then it is worth it
if its 0 then it actually just has no purpose

This is like betting on a call that has a minute chance of giving you a massive return rather than betting on a call whose risk profile is more palatable

 

[ccwb]

Pascals wager is the most midwitted, surface level argument ever jfl

You are forgetting that there are (and have been) thousands of different religions, and an infinite amount yet to be told

By not worshipping some random pagan deity of a pagan culture that died 4000 years ago you are risking eternal damnation just as much as an atheist is by not worshipping yours

If anything, worshipping one god is picking a side, picking none at least might see a benevolent god grant you mercy for your ignorance

Yes jfl
The religion where they worship a fucking sun is correct and I’m gonna enter hell
Or a cow who poops and gets killed whenever a person decides
Stop coping buddy boyo it’s only 3 abrahamic religions that are at least logical and debatable
One ofc wins easily tho

 

[Algernon]

This is like betting on a call that has a minute chance of giving you a massive return rather than betting on a call whose risk profile is more palatable

and if that call has a profile of 10$ but that small chance has 1B$?
if that small chance is even 10%?
also im going to sleep after the next reply cause its 130 am for me

 

[Matrix88]

i mean i think its pretty logical God will be aware that you think eternity is torture
you may be altered to never adapt and never bet bored of it etc
assuming God is real and that you are in this heaven now, before if I said God is above logic it would be hand-waving but now that we are going under the assumption its true and your in heaven God could essily rewrite your brain chemistry etc to make you never sdapt and get bored of Heaven

but what makes you think the fact of there being a God is remotely close to the God HUMANS HAVE CREATED, OUR MINDS ARE NOT THAT SMART TO COMPREHEND UNIVERSE, EVEN LESS 2000 YEARS AGO

 

[LXR]

and if that call has a profile of 10$ but that small chance has 1B$?
if that small chance is even 10%?
also im going to sleep after the next reply cause its 130 am for me

I'd still choose the 10$ because it is simply more likely to happen.

 

[Sayori]

Pascal wager asss nigga thread

Well, this grey used it to show that the roi for God is worth it no matter what

This would only be good for an atheist starting out

however, after you got your foot in the door you have to ponder what is the truth and who is providing it

in my instance Christianity

Your opinion?

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Well, this grey used it to show that the roi for God is worth it no matter what

This would only be good for an atheist starting out

however, after you got your foot in the door you have to ponder what is the truth and who is providing it

in my instance Christianity

Your opinion?

If you examine the claims of every RELGION which would be annoyingly long sure you could come to a conclusion but if you instead observe the transcendental argument of what the source of knowledge is, ethnics, metaphysics, etc then you come to realise Christianity is the only one that can give an account for the transcendental categories.

This is called the TAG argument for god

 

[WELOVELOOKS]

I don’t really want to be with a god that makes you enter his club only if you recite stupid little words

The club should be a reward for lessons learned

Progression made

Bettering yourself for the others around you not for saving your own soul

If god exists I highly doubt he is genuinely like that, the idea that you just have to praise him and believe just to get into heaven even though he’s supposedly a perfect being who shouldn’t require any validation at all (even a little)

 

[DDDF]

not even all major religions promise infinite life/heaven

 

[goku21]

you're still believing in subjective morality

all of earth can think pizza is evil

yet with objective morality they can all be wrong because there is a truth

My point is the concept of objective morality makes more sense, and, in my case, I believe God the creator of this morality to hold the truth of morality

Also, yes religion can be a sign of low iq but that doesn't mean it's wrong

atheist do tend to be of average iq however when you get to the high iq range that is where religion is reintroduced and when you're in the low iq range religion is there as well on average

Now my final thing, to say religion was created out of cope seems completely retarded I could say that for some religions but not for Christianity

there have been many men who chose to suffer a Christian life when they could have had an easy one

What I can somewhat agree on you with is that coping def has an impact on the spread in Christianity but in no way does it make it incorrect

Good night bhai, take care I am in a great mood tn

(def the amazing pool party I had earlier)

@goku21 the pool party was fricking fire right

Yes Nga

 

[Sayori]

If you examine the claims of every RELGION which would be annoyingly long sure you could come to a conclusion but if you instead observe the transcendental argument of what the source of knowledge is, ethnics, metaphysics, etc then you come to realise Christianity is the only one that can give an account for the transcendental categories.

This is called the TAG argument for god

where do you inform yourself about these arguments?

you name them an everything