Religion

[spion]

Is it confirmed by any serious sources that the average religious person has lower iq than the average atheist?
today i realized that if i was dumb enough to actually believe in a religion, id definitely want to be a devout christian that prays a lot
praying in silence has a certain aura to it, it seems so peaceful

 

[Tenres]

Frankly you're definitely dumb enough

 

[spion]

Frankly you're definitely dumb enough

can you elaborate?

 

[Niche12345678890]

 

[Matrix88]

Is it confirmed by any serious sources that the average religious person has lower iq than the average atheist?
today i realized that if i was dumb enough to actually believe in a religion, id definitely want to be a devout christian that prays a lot
praying in silence has a certain aura to it, it seems so peaceful

I wish I was dumb enough to be a Christian. That way I wouldn't be aware of this shallow meaningless world and would focus on just praying to solve my problems

 

[coastal]

Ioday i realized that if i was dumb enough to actually believe in a religion

i genuinely hate people like you from the bottom of my heart

you obviously don't understand jack shit about Christianity if your monkey nigger brain was able to come up with something so retarded

it's fine to be an atheist or whatever you wanna be, i have a lot of atheist friends who actually evaluated evidence for/against it and decided not to believe which is completely fine

BUT YOU ARE A DUMB 80 IQ NIGGER. "muh im smart im not dumb enough to believe in sky daddy" cool shit you jeet how about if you're so smart you help me understand for your retard belief system is able to provide an epistemological justification for logic, metaphysics and the possibility of intelligibility at all? because i can't see how you're gonna derive those mind independent constant and objective laws of logic and reason from a materialistic paradigm.

NEWSFLASH, YOU CANT

you fucking jew you should become a monk and forever isolate yourself from society

if you blasphemer wanna debate me on TAG i'll be glad to make your intestines fall out of your anus

dnr dnr dnr dnr dnr dnr this iq gene pool should forever stay with you only NIGGER

:3 much love <3

crashed out again for no reason, but that's a 100th time i see the same omg but problem of evil omg but divine hiddenness lol haha you believe in sky daddy hahah!!! and it's always 2 digit iq paki rat people saying the same dumb shit over and over again

pissing me tf off i gonna log out this forum is actually making me a psycho

 

[savage21]

i genuinely hate people like you from the bottom of my heart

you obviously don't understand jack shit about Christianity if your monkey nigger brain was able to come up with something so retarded

it's fine to be an atheist or whatever you wanna be, i have a lot of atheist friends who actually evaluated evidence for/against it and decided not to believe which is completely fine

BUT YOU ARE A DUMB 80 IQ NIGGER. "muh im smart im not dumb enough to believe in sky daddy" cool shit you jeet how about if you're so smart you help me understand for your retard belief system is able to provide an epistemological justification for logic, metaphysics and the possibility of intelligibility at all? because i can't see how you're gonna derive those mind independent constant and objective laws of logic and reason from a materialistic paradigm.

NEWSFLASH, YOU CANT

you fucking jew you should become a monk and forever isolate yourself from society

if you blasphemer wanna debate me on TAG i'll be glad to make your intestines fall out of your anus

dnr dnr dnr dnr dnr dnr this iq gene pool should forever stay with you only NIGGER

:3 much love <3

crashed out again for no reason, but that's a 100th time i see the same omg but problem of evil omg but divine hiddenness lol haha you believe in sky daddy hahah!!! and it's always 2 digit iq paki rat people saying the same dumb shit over and over again

pissing me tf off i gonna log out this forum is actually making me a psycho

 

[coastal]

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cool nigger i'm not protestant

and Old Test which was for the jews and was later fulfilled in Christ Jesus so now we don't follow it (for example it has a lot of restrictions on diet, clothes, sum ceremonial laws which no Christian follows)

 

[Chara]

I wish I was dumb enough to be a Christian. That way I wouldn't be aware of this shallow meaningless world and would focus on just praying to solve my problems

Being aware of the world's innate shallowness is a large part of Christianity though

 

[coastal]

@spion im sorry i crashed out on you, it was undeserved and now i feel bad 3:

 

[spion]

@spion im sorry i crashed out on you, it was undeserved and now i feel bad 3:

its okay, if i ever do enter a church ill pray for you

 

[Matrix88]

Being aware of the world's innate shallowness is a large part of Christianity though

well yes, they have their arguments against the evil shallow world. But they think that's just the "bad" people who are sinners, while its actually human nature

no religion in primal times

 

[coastal]

its okay, if i ever do enter a church ill pray for you

appreciate that i'll pray for the both of us when i go to the liturgy next time (confession will be brotal)

 

[Alienmaxxer]

Average IQ of atheists is 6 points higher

 

[Matrix88]

i genuinely hate people like you from the bottom of my heart

you obviously don't understand jack shit about Christianity if your monkey nigger brain was able to come up with something so retarded

it's fine to be an atheist or whatever you wanna be, i have a lot of atheist friends who actually evaluated evidence for/against it and decided not to believe which is completely fine

BUT YOU ARE A DUMB 80 IQ NIGGER. "muh im smart im not dumb enough to believe in sky daddy" cool shit you jeet how about if you're so smart you help me understand for your retard belief system is able to provide an epistemological justification for logic, metaphysics and the possibility of intelligibility at all? because i can't see how you're gonna derive those mind independent constant and objective laws of logic and reason from a materialistic paradigm.

NEWSFLASH, YOU CANT

you fucking jew you should become a monk and forever isolate yourself from society

if you blasphemer wanna debate me on TAG i'll be glad to make your intestines fall out of your anus

dnr dnr dnr dnr dnr dnr this iq gene pool should forever stay with you only NIGGER

:3 much love <3

crashed out again for no reason, but that's a 100th time i see the same omg but problem of evil omg but divine hiddenness lol haha you believe in sky daddy hahah!!! and it's always 2 digit iq paki rat people saying the same dumb shit over and over again

pissing me tf off i gonna log out this forum is actually making me a psycho

true

 

[appeal_clone]

i genuinely hate people like you from the bottom of my heart

you obviously don't understand jack shit about Christianity if your monkey nigger brain was able to come up with something so retarded

it's fine to be an atheist or whatever you wanna be, i have a lot of atheist friends who actually evaluated evidence for/against it and decided not to believe which is completely fine

BUT YOU ARE A DUMB 80 IQ NIGGER. "muh im smart im not dumb enough to believe in sky daddy" cool shit you jeet how about if you're so smart you help me understand for your retard belief system is able to provide an epistemological justification for logic, metaphysics and the possibility of intelligibility at all? because i can't see how you're gonna derive those mind independent constant and objective laws of logic and reason from a materialistic paradigm.

NEWSFLASH, YOU CANT

you fucking jew you should become a monk and forever isolate yourself from society

if you blasphemer wanna debate me on TAG i'll be glad to make your intestines fall out of your anus

dnr dnr dnr dnr dnr dnr this iq gene pool should forever stay with you only NIGGER

:3 much love <3

crashed out again for no reason, but that's a 100th time i see the same omg but problem of evil omg but divine hiddenness lol haha you believe in sky daddy hahah!!! and it's always 2 digit iq paki rat people saying the same dumb shit over and over again

pissing me tf off i gonna log out this forum is actually making me a psycho

W coastal even if it was a bit harsh

 

[Deleted member 42490]

Is it confirmed by any serious sources that the average religious person has lower iq than the average atheist?
today i realized that if i was dumb enough to actually believe in a religion, id definitely want to be a devout christian that prays a lot
praying in silence has a certain aura to it, it seems so peaceful

atheists are more retarted than religious people, spiritualy retarted robots

I have more respect for agnostics and religious people.

 

[savage21]

cool nigger i'm not protestant

and Old Test which was for the jews and was later fulfilled in Christ Jesus so now we don't follow it (for example it has a lot of restrictions on diet, clothes, sum ceremonial laws which no Christian follows)

Aren’t Catholics also supposed to adhere to that idea though? Even in the New Testament

 

[Deleted member 42490]

Being aware of the world's innate shallowness is a large part of Christianity though

its literally one of the main points

 

[spion]

atheists are more retarted than religious people, spiritualy retarted robots

I have more respect for agnostics and religious people.

i have respect for them as well, in the sense that i admire their dedication and ability to believe
the average christian is probably more disciplined as well

 

[Daddy's Home]

It only takes 5 minutes (installing the Tor browser and accessing some "specific" links with .onion at the end, through which you will have access to some "specific" images and videos) to completely clear any person's mind that there is any "God" in this brutal, chaotic and wild world

I sometimes wish I could be as clueless and ignorant as the girl below, for example..

 

[coastal]

while its actually human nature

yeah no shit jew read genesis it clearly teaches that the pure human nature was corrupted by sin and the world is fallen that's like mmm one of the most basic Christian teachings?

no religion in primal times

i mean first you're gonna have to prove they even existed because all carbon dating already entails the old age since they have to presuppose amounts of carbon that was accumulated in said thing to check how long it would take for the half time (6k years for the main dating method) to reach it's current state (even tho im not a YEC)

but even if i grant you billions of years or however much you want still no way to prove that people in that time were all atheists (i mean again read genesis, there obviously were a lot of unbelievers)

why are we debating religion on org tf is wrong with us

 

[savage21]

its literally one of the main points

Just a question. Genuinely curious.

If Christian’s are supposed to protest innate shallowness in the world and be aware of it, why are Christian’s largely the demographic i observe prohibiting race mixing and promoting racial discrimination against all immigrants?

Isn’t that shallow?

 

[coastal]

Aren’t Catholics also supposed to adhere to that idea though? Even in the New Testament

cool im not catholic jfl

 

[savage21]

cool im not catholic jfl

What’s your denomination?

 

[Deleted member 42490]

It only takes 5 minutes (installing the Tor browser and accessing some "specific" links with .onion at the end, through which you will have access to some "specific" images and videos) to completely clear any person's mind that there is any "God" in this brutal, chaotic and wild world

Funny how it's all humans causing all the problems in those videos, almost like that's what the bible is about.

 

[AgentAngularity]

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what if you have no good features to appriciate

 

[spion]

What’s your denomination?

probably orthodox

 

[Matrix88]

yeah no shit jew read genesis it clearly teaches that the pure human nature was corrupted by sin and the world is fallen that's like mmm one of the most basic Christian teachings?


i mean first you're gonna have to prove they even existed because all carbon dating already entails the old age since they have to presuppose amounts of carbon that was accumulated in said thing to check how long it would take for the half time (6k years for the main dating method) to reach it's current state (even tho im not a YEC)

but even if i grant you billions of years or however much you want still no way to prove that people in that time were all atheists (i mean again read genesis, there obviously were a lot of unbelievers)

why are we debating religion on org tf is wrong with us

yea i don't want to debate religion really

I wish I could have faith like you do, I'd probably be happier, but its impossible for me to actually believe in any God or religion

My life is so shit I would blame and hate any "All loving" God

 

[coastal]

Average IQ of atheists is 6 points higher

yeah that's js gonna be selection bias + if you wanna measure shit i'm pretty sure Christians are on average happier, donate more to charity, have lower suicide rates etc. also some of the smartest people in history (like nicola tesla) were Christians so you have no argument

 

[coastal]

What’s your denomination?

born and raised eastern ortho

 

[spion]

Average IQ of atheists is 6 points higher

thats interesting, thank you

do you have a source perhaps

 

[Alienmaxxer]

Christians are on average happier

Happiness research is dogshit and relies on self-reported happiness.

donate more to charity

idk maybe?

have lower suicide rates

Cuz they think they'll go to hell if they do obviously

also some of the smartest people in history (like nicola tesla) were Christians

No he wasn't. He was raised as an orthodox christian but rejected his religion later.

Even if some of the smartest people in history were christians, that's because there was whole parts of history where if you were an admitted atheist, you were a public leper. Now THAT is selection bias.

yeah that's js gonna be selection bias

How is it selection bias lol, you haven't even read the study.

 

[savage21]

born and raised eastern ortho

Same applies for orthodox people no? Pretty much any Christian denomination.

 

[Alienmaxxer]

thats interesting, thank you

do you have a source perhaps

Just look it up, it's a famous study

 

[coastal]

"muh im smart im not dumb enough to believe in sky daddy" cool shit you jeet how about if you're so smart you help me understand for your retard belief system is able to provide an epistemological justification for logic, metaphysics and the possibility of intelligibility at all? because i can't see how you're gonna derive those mind independent constant and objective laws of logic and reason from a materialistic paradigm.

NEWSFLASH, YOU CANT

on a serious note tho i'd highly recommend everyone who's atheist/agnostic but is open to Christianity to look into the Transcendental Argument for God

it's not super complex if you spend some time thinking about it, and it's one of the best lines of evidence for God's existence. i'm not gonna recite it here coz there's 1000s of well formatted TAG arguments you can look up, or just ask AI how TAG proves God.

and since it's a purely metaphysical argument with no appeal to the Bible or history it basically 100% proves God. yes newsflash God is proven. and to deny His existence you'll basically have to denounce logic, knowledge and all the metaphysical realities we can clearly observe and test

 

[spion]

clearly observe and test

how does one observe metaphysics?

 

[coastal]

Same applies for orthodox people no? Pretty much any Christian denomination.

nope, basically no denom besides i think 7th day adventists follow the Old Test like it's a rule book. it was a set of scriptures and ancient prophecies pointing to the coming of the messiah who will establish a new covenant with all the people.

so we view it through the lens of Christ's coming and a lot of the verses people pull from the Old Test with zero context are very misunderstood

 

[coastal]

how does one observe metaphysics?

does logic exist?

 

[spion]

does logic exist?

since logic exists as a metaphysical concept only, i cannot know wether or not it truly exists when observing is considered a physical means

 

[Deleted member 42490]

Just a question. Genuinely curious.

If Christian’s are supposed to protest innate shallowness in the world and be aware of it, why are Christian’s largely the demographic i observe prohibiting race mixing and promoting racial discrimination against all immigrants?

Isn’t that shallow?

Most people are so far removed from the orginal church teachings, If you want to understand christianity you have to look at its history and scripture not look at these idiots nowadays that go to chuch every sunday and never even open their bible.

As for race-mixxing there is nothing forbidding it in the bible.

Being agaist racemixxing is not a religious thing, its inate in everybody. Your brain understand to be safe is to be with your own people. This is subconcious. White people are the least likey to race mix because they have the highest SMV and white people are the biggest group of christians in the USA. Correlation dosnt equal causation.

Although I want to make sure you know this is inate, southern white people are also incredibly racist and are more likley to be religious. It doent mean they are following jesus's teachings if they claim a title.

 

[coastal]

Just look it up, it's a famous study

it was refuted a billion times lol, it had no control for impactful variables and the guy who did it didn't even have a valid method. there was a good meta study from i think 2017 which showed that religion accounts only for 4-5% difference in iq deviations which basically disproves your entire point jfl

 

[coastal]

since logic exists as a metaphysical concept only, i cannot know wether or not it truly exists when observing is considered a physical means

cool then you can't use logic to debate me so i win

 

[savage21]

Most people are so far removed from the orginal church teachings, If you want to understand christianity you have to look at its history and scripture not look at these idiots nowadays that go to chuch every sunday and never even open their bible.

As for race-mixxing there is nothing forbidding it in the bible.

Being agaist racemixxing is not a religious thing, its inate in everybody. Your brain understand to be safe is to be with your own people. This is subconcious. White people are the least likey to race mix because they have the highest SMV and white people are the biggest group of christians in the USA. Correlation dosnt equal causation.

Although I want to make sure you know this is inate, southern white people are also incredibly racist and are more likley to be religious. It doent mean they are following jesus's teachings if they claim a title.

Thanks for the logical answer brah. Need more people like you.

 

[coastal]

Most people are so far removed from the orginal church teachings

SUCH A BAR BHAI

 

[spion]

Most people are so far removed from the orginal church teachings, If you want to understand christianity you have to look at its history and scripture not look at these idiots nowadays that go to chuch every sunday and never even open their bible.

As for race-mixxing there is nothing forbidding it in the bible.

Being agaist racemixxing is not a religious thing, its inate in everybody. Your brain understand to be safe is to be with your own people. This is subconcious. White people are the least likey to race mix because they have the highest SMV and white people are the biggest group of christians in the USA. Correlation dosnt equal causation.

Although I want to make sure you know this is inate, southern white people are also incredibly racist and are more likley to be religious. It doent mean they are following jesus's teachings if they claim a title.

good post sir

 

[Alienmaxxer]

it was refuted a billion times lol

That it was refuted was refuted... a trillion times. Yeah. Sorry man.

there was a good meta study from i think 2017 which showed that religion accounts only for 4-5% difference in iq deviations which basically disproves your entire point jfl

A 5% difference in iq deviation is very large, and I haven't even read that study.

 

[coastal]

That it was refuted was refuted... a trillion times. Yeah. Sorry man.

yep look up the study from 2017 by Zuckerman

A 5% difference in iq deviation is very large, and I haven't even read that study.

i mean maybe you're not that smart but that's not what i texted jfl

"religion accounts for 4-5% of deviation" mean that if someone has 100 iq and someone has 120 iq only 4-5% of the 20 iq deviation is because of religion nigger

 

[spion]

yep look up the study from 2017 by Zuckerman


i mean maybe you're not that smart but that's not what i texted jfl

"religion accounts for 4-5% of deviation" mean that if someone has 100 iq and someone has 120 iq only 4-5% of the 20 iq deviation is because of religion nigger

cmon man now ur crashing out again for no reason

not a good look if u wanna convince somebody in a serious debate
but you know that

 

[Alienmaxxer]

yep look up the study from 2017 by Zuckerman


i mean maybe you're not that smart but that's not what i texted jfl

"religion accounts for 4-5% of deviation" mean that if someone has 100 iq and someone has 120 iq only 4-5% of the 20 iq deviation is because of religion nigger

I looked it up and found this Zuckerman meta-analysis saying it was a 6.2-7.8 IQ gap. Brutal. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1088868313497266