religious people are double digit iq animals

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religion must be defeated and abolished at all costs

 

[Deleted member 274700]

religion must be defeated and abolished at all costs

Even the smart ones can't let go of their childhood indoctrination on the matter.
And would they even? With so many family, friends, and whatever people they know in church being religious?
Would they be willing to put aside their beliefs for basically social suicide? (At least in their eyes).

 

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Even the smart ones can't let go of their childhood indoctrination on the matter.
And would they even? With so many family, friends, and whatever people they know in church being religious?
Would they be willing to put aside their beliefs for basically social suicide? (At least in their eyes).

thats why a crusade is necesary

 

[ybuyhgui]

religion must be defeated and abolished at all costs

Would it benefit us though? I would much rather the world become 10x more religious so women will stop being ruined from age 16 by whoring themselves out for chads. Secularism enhances hypergamy.

 

[intovoid]

 

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Would it benefit us though? I would much rather the world become 10x more religious so women will stop being ruined from age 16 by whoring themselves out for chads. Secularism enhances hypergamy.

we will get the foids under control without religion

 

[ybuyhgui]

we will get the foids under control without religion

True, I didn’t think about that

 

[iblamexyz]

religion must be defeated and abolished at all costs

ironic

 

[carljung]

lol average atheist thoughts include god more than the people that believe in god.

do you also think about the tooth fairy and santa claus as much??

death to all atheist troons. god is real. your gay science wont change that lol.

 

[Deleted member 234348]

thats why a crusade is necesary

Crusades ruined europe and plunged it into the dark ages

 

[Agarthianincel271]

Even the smart ones can't let go of their childhood indoctrination on the matter.
And would they even? With so many family, friends, and whatever people they know in church being religious?
Would they be willing to put aside their beliefs for basically social suicide? (At least in their eyes).

If you value your retarded social circle more than objective truth you either low iq or low T tbh

 

[Deleted member 274700]

If you value your retarded social circle more than objective truth you either low iq or low T tbh

I don't personally either.
But I'm just looking at it from the perspective of a typically high IQ but well adjusted normie.
They can buy that their religion (consciously or subconsciously even) is a farce and still think about the social consequences related to the matter.
Even I don't straight up tell up normies that I'm a atheist. I just go with the typical "I'm not religious lol" card. Less tedium to deal with IRL.

 

[JordanFagget271]

yo who tf is //ThomasDOM

 

[Deleted member 175542]

more like executing all the low-sapience individuals, that'll be the end of religions
abolishing religions while letting sheeples exist would be counterproductive

 

[Bryce]

Exactly

"Hail Satan"

 

[Deleted member 175542]

"Hail Satan"

whole point of that is to serve as an anchor to strongly hold onto atheism

 

[Bryce]

whole point of that is to serve as an anchor for atheism

Why would you choose and Abrahamic figure for that? Seems like an oxymoron.

 

[ybuyhgui]

Why would you choose and Abrahamic figure for that? Seems like an oxymoron.

More of a metaphor I suppose. @HighIQ ubermensch is a complex mind it seems

 

[Deleted member 175542]

Why would you choose and Abrahamic figure for that? Seems like an oxymoron

Atheism and Satanism go hand in hand.
You can't truly be an atheist without Satanism or you risk falling back into wishful thinking and religious nonsense.
It's easy to revert to religion from time to time since it's been ingrained in you from birth.
Praising Satan serves as a reminder to myself and to the structures of my mind that I have embraced atheism & it strongly reinforces atheism in my philosophical & decision-making framework.
Without Satan, I will fall back to wishful thinking and praying to God for support or subconsciously refraining from actions that religions are against, because religions are enforced in formative years and for longer, they somewhat become a base of your philosophical framework.
My mind would remove the memory of atheism, and I would gaslight myself into believing religions. However, if I constantly talk about Satan, it pretty much stops that from happening, as I have a good memory and stronger support for atheism.
Also, my base of thinking would be anti-religion and self-serving, as I already accept hell if the afterlife exists, and that makes it easier to take actions and plans that benefit me while going against religion, removing hesitation.

 

[takethewhitepill]

Even the smart ones can't let go of their childhood indoctrination on the matter.
And would they even? With so many family, friends, and whatever people they know in church being religious?
Would they be willing to put aside their beliefs for basically social suicide? (At least in their eyes).

I was born and raised an athiest. My family and friends for the most part dont accept it. There are many like me, most people who truly follow God have thoroughly considered the evidence and arrived at their conclusion because they believe it to be correct. Even Paul was like this, as we read in 1 Corinthians 15. What do you have to say about people like us, who are actually the majority of people who follow Him

 

[Chars]

Christ was anti-religion. Being Christian requires zero worship

 

[Deleted member 274700]

I was born and raised an athiest. My family and friends for the most part dont accept it. There are many like me, most people who truly follow God have thoroughly considered the evidence and arrived at their conclusion because they believe it to be correct. Even Paul was like this, as we read in 1 Corinthians 15. What do you have to say about people like us, who are actually the majority of people who follow Him

Yeah no. I agree. There exists people like you too who are genuine in your beliefs and prayer.

My scenario I was laying out was mostly for a smart people who maybe are questioning their beliefs and on why some can't let go of them. (With many factors involving this).

There's just so many factors when it comes to intelligence. Religious affiliation or not.

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

Atheism and Satanism go hand in hand.
You can't truly be an atheist without Satanism or you risk falling back into wishful thinking and religious nonsense.
It's easy to revert to religion from time to time since it's been ingrained in you from birth.
Praising Satan serves as a reminder to myself and to the structures of my mind that I have embraced atheism & it strongly reinforces atheism in my philosophical & decision-making framework.
Without Satan, I will fall back to wishful thinking and praying to God for support or subconsciously refraining from actions that religions are against, because religions are enforced in formative years and for longer, they somewhat become a base of your philosophical framework.
My mind would remove the memory of atheism, and I would gaslight myself into believing religions. However, if I constantly talk about Satan, it pretty much stops that from happening, as I have a good memory and stronger support for atheism.
Also, my base of thinking would be anti-religion and self-serving, as I already accept hell if the afterlife exists, and that makes it easier to take actions and plans that benefit me while going against religion, removing hesitation.

Sounds like the problem is not religon but your method of analysis, youre still just gaslighting yourself but the otherway around which wont give you more reasonable beliefs and just makes atheism as you describe it appear more dogmatic. I say this because the act of just dreading falling back on a belief presupposes that its false, and i assume you couldnt strictly based of logic come to that definitive conclusion as its a very complicated matter.while the best way to live would be living by the most likely truthfull explanation for everything because you know what the best goals to set would be

 

[Deleted member 175542]

Sounds like the problem is not religon but your method of analysis, youre still just gaslighting yourself but the otherway around which wont give you more reasonable beliefs and just makes atheism as you describe it appear more dogmatic.

That's a dumb way to think, you're dismissing human nature & assuming people can operate at peak analytical capacity 24/7, ignoring well-documented cognitive limitations like cognitive biases, ingrained mental patterns, emotional influences, social indoctrination, bounded rationality and limited working memory etc.
You can’t be perfectly rational all the time, but when you are, you have the opportunity to reflect on yourself and anticipate how you might behave in a given situation. By preparing a plan during those rational moments, you can rely on it later when your thinking isn’t as clear, helping you avoid mistakes and stay on track.

If you wanna jestermaxx & call it corny then feel free to do so, but I like this example from DeathNote:
Light deliberately relinquishes ownership of his Death Note, which causes him to lose all memory of being Kira. When he is rational and aware, he anticipates how losing his memories will affect him and crafts a plan using the notebook's ownership transfer to regain memories later. He uses this preparation to ensure that even when he is not rational or thinking straight (due to lost memories), he can rely on his earlier rational plan to act effectively, reclaim his memories, and continue carrying out his objectives without mistakes. This shows how during rational moments, reflecting on oneself and foreseeing potential future states can help create strategies to handle times of impaired rationality.

I say this because the act of just dreading falling back on a belief presupposes that its false,

yes

and i assume you couldnt strictly based of logic come to that definitive conclusion as its a very complicated matter.

you can, probabilities are quite absurdly skewed here
like you said:

while the best way to live would be living by the most likely truthfull explanation for everything because you know what the best goals to set would be

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

That's a dumb way to think, you're dismissing human nature & assuming people can operate at peak analytical capacity 24/7, ignoring well-documented cognitive limitations like cognitive biases, ingrained mental patterns, emotional influences, social indoctrination, bounded rationality and limited working memory etc.
You can’t be perfectly rational all the time, but when you are, you have the opportunity to reflect on yourself and anticipate how you might behave in a given situation. By preparing a plan during those rational moments, you can rely on it later when your thinking isn’t as clear, helping you avoid mistakes and stay on track.

If you wanna jestermaxx & call it corny then feel free to do so, but I like this example from DeathNote:
Light deliberately relinquishes ownership of his Death Note, which causes him to lose all memory of being Kira. When he is rational and aware, he anticipates how losing his memories will affect him and crafts a plan using the notebook's ownership transfer to regain memories later. He uses this preparation to ensure that even when he is not rational or thinking straight (due to lost memories), he can rely on his earlier rational plan to act effectively, reclaim his memories, and continue carrying out his objectives without mistakes. This shows how during rational moments, reflecting on oneself and foreseeing potential future states can help create strategies to handle times of impaired rationality.

Of course you can't be fully free from biases but if youre not atleast atempting to minimize it how could you arrice at more reasonable conclusions? Therefore i would also question how you would know when youre being more rational or less rational. I mean based on what you first described you seem to have multiple contradicting biases such as a wat to cope with current hardships which gets you closer to religon and being able to make simpler more desirable choices right now which does the opposite. So how would you know the atheist side is more rational and its not just the second bias thats pulling you a bit harder right know? Id agree that the probability of god in the traditional sense seems less then likely but my problem isnt the conclusion youve come to its that you dont really seem be genuinely gaugeing the possibilities and probabilities and instead just pick one and hold on to it for dear life

 

[Deleted member 175542]

Of course you can't be fully free from biases but if youre not atleast atempting to minimize it how could you arrice at more reasonable conclusions?

but my problem isnt the conclusion youve come to its that you dont really seem be genuinely gaugeing the possibilities and probabilities

So how would you know the atheist side is more rational and its not just the second bias thats pulling you a bit harder right know?

you're just saying whatever atp,
Years of critical-thinking is what brought me to this conclusion, it was quite an easy conclusion to reach.

and instead just pick one and hold on to it for dear life

Not going to debate this forever, I'm quite confident in my beliefs.
just need the psychological tools to apply this philosophy in my life