reminder: looks mean nothing to women

[loksr]

smv prime on face irl

if u're gymmaxxed mtn u will get approched IOIS etc and think u're chadlite or whatever

Girls don’t actually give a shit about muscles.
What happens to gymcelled guys is that in the process of getting muscles they become lean which improves their face, they then apply that success to their muscles. Guys who gymmaxx and don’t unlock a jawline and cheekbones doing it are the guys who make the “haha i expected female attention but only got male attention..” memes.

If you’re gymmaxxed I imagine that’s what happened to you and you never realized you became facially attractive enough to women. Again it is not usually intuitive, men can’t truly tell which men are attractive to women unless it’s a a very high level like chico or whoever.

 

[Deleted member 24789]

Girls don’t actually give a shit about muscles.
What happens to gymcelled guys is that in the process of getting muscles they become lean which improves their face, they then apply that success to their muscles. Guys who gymmaxx and don’t unlock a jawline and cheekbones doing it are the guys who make the “haha i expected female attention but only got male attention..” memes.

If you’re gymmaxxed I imagine that’s what happened to you and you never realized you became facially attractive enough to women. Again it is not usually intuitive, men can’t truly tell which men are attractive to women unless it’s a a very high level like chico or whoever.

im skinny as hell bro

 

[Deleted member 18582]

Girls don’t actually give a shit about muscles.
What happens to gymcelled guys is that in the process of getting muscles they become lean which improves their face, they then apply that success to their muscles. Guys who gymmaxx and don’t unlock a jawline and cheekbones doing it are the guys who make the “haha i expected female attention but only got male attention..” memes.

If you’re gymmaxxed I imagine that’s what happened to you and you never realized you became facially attractive enough to women. Again it is not usually intuitive, men can’t truly tell which men are attractive to women unless it’s a a very high level like chico or whoever.

its more because there is a social script of thinkin 'getting fit = more confidence' that is so ingrained it becomes unconscious, so in the course of becoming stronger they convince themselves they are more confident than they actually are, and their increased success with girls is to be attributed to this renewed confidence. A confidence that basically amounts to a better playing of the number game.

 

[loksr]

im skinny as hell bro

So there’s two options here, either you’re skinny and facially attractive to women, in which case you have to realize the muscle shit is cope

Or you’re skinny and not facially attractive to women, thus you’re emotionally invested in muscles being the thing that could save you and/or emotionally invested in the problem being your lack of muscles rather than your face (you can figure out the importance of face by realizing how EAGER everyone is to blame the problem on EVERYTHING before their face, from height, to race, to body, to bank account, to personality etc)

I know that’s a dickhead thing to say but I’m trying to be honest here
As a general rule, men care about muscles women care about face. You notice an increase in positive experiences with women as muscles increase because typically in the process of gaining muscles there’s also a leaning out of the face. Guys who gain muscles but DON’T lean out do NOT notice any difference with women and instead complain about getting male attention rather than female attention

 

[Deleted member 24789]

So there’s two options here, either you’re skinny and facially attractive to women, in which case you have to realize the muscle shit is cope

Or you’re skinny and not facially attractive to women, thus you’re emotionally invested in muscles being the thing that could save you and/or emotionally invested in the problem being your lack of muscles rather than your face (you can figure out the importance of face by realizing how EAGER everyone is to blame the problem on EVERYTHING before their face, from height, to race, to body, to bank account, to personality etc)

I know that’s a dickhead thing to say but I’m trying to be honest here
As a general rule, men care about muscles women care about face. You notice an increase in positive experiences with women as muscles increase because typically in the process of gaining muscles there’s also a leaning out of the face. Guys who gain muscles but DON’T lean out do NOT notice any difference with women and instead complain about getting male attention rather than female attention

Im 2.5 psl

 

[Deleted member 24789]

@loksr and u mix everything

I just said being mtn is all u need to get iois

if gymmax was cope people who gymmax wouldn't have a high bc like this guy (and no, he's not leanmaxxed)


gymmax and looksmax is for yourself

He slayed 200 girls

 

[loksr]

its more because there is a social script of thinkin 'getting fit = more confidence' that is so ingrained it becomes unconscious, so in the course of becoming stronger they convince themselves they are more confident than they actually are, and their increased success with girls is to be attributed to this renewed confidence. A confidence that basically amounts to a better playing of the number game.

Confidence doesn’t exist, EVERYONE (not exaggerating) is insecure about SOMETHING and whether you’re perceived as confident is based on whether you LOOK confident

Most insecure chad = “he’s shy but you can tell he’s sure of himself.”
Most confident incel = “arrogant. Obviously insecure and conpensating for his little dick.”

That sounds autistic as shit but I’ve noticed that my entire life. People tell you that you’re shit that you’re not when you’re gl

 

[loksr]

@loksr and u mix everything

I just said being mtn is all u need to get iois gymmax was cope people who gymmax wouldn't have a high bc like this guy (and no, he's not leanmaxxed)


gymmax and looksmax is for yourself

View attachment 2363541
He slayed 200 girls

Brad pitt is proof that side is cope
Also what is with this thing of you guys just believing peoples’ body counts
Can somebody explain to me why you guys are so trusting

 

[Deleted member 24789]

Brad pitt is proof that side is cope
Also what is with this thing of you guys just believing peoples’ body counts
Can somebody explain to me why you guys are so trusting

Bc is your sexual value

 

[Deleted member 24789]

@loksr i have no pb with girls outside, i get often iois and im normie (tall too)

 

[loksr]

Bc is your sexual value

Yes I’m saying why do you BELIEVE that the number somebody tells you is their actual number?

 

[Deleted member 24789]

Yes I’m saying why do you BELIEVE that the number somebody tells you is their actual number?

and who says u it isn't?

 

[Deleted member 23218]

@loksr and u mix everything

I just said being mtn is all u need to get iois

if gymmax was cope people who gymmax wouldn't have a high bc like this guy (and no, he's not leanmaxxed)


gymmax and looksmax is for yourself

View attachment 2363541
He slayed 200 girls

Face is king but saying gym is cope is asinine tbh. Going from lanklet to gymaxxed with some roid cycles will increase ur smv cause you can fraud a bigger frame.

 

[loksr]

@loksr i have no pb with girls outside, i get often iois and im normie (tall too)

Almost nobody is an incel
To be an incel autism is almost a requirement.
Blackpill = what good looking CAN do, not what normie/subhuman CAN’T do

and who says u it isn't?

let’s say you see a guy who is dressed in rags and looks homeless, he tells you he’s a billionaire, do you believe him?

 

[Deleted member 24789]

Mtn with body gymmaxxed get 50 + in 30 min on OLD

 

[Deleted member 24789]

Face is king but saying gym is cope is asinine tbh. Going from lanklet to gymaxxed with some roid cycles will increase ur smv cause you can fraud a bigger frame.

Mtn with body gymmaxxed get 50 + in 30 min on OLD

 

[Deleted member 18582]

Face is king but saying gym is cope is asinine tbh. Going from lanklet to gymaxxed with some roid cycles will increase ur smv cause you can fraud a bigger frame.

nice use of word asinine

 

[Deleted member 24789]

Almost nobody is an incel
To be an incel autism is almost a requirement.
Blackpill = what good looking CAN do, not what normie/subhuman CAN’T do


let’s say you see a guy who is dressed in rags and looks homeless, he tells you he’s a billionaire, do you believe him?

This guy has every reason to have a high bc , every gymmaxxed normie guys i know are slayers

 

[Deleted member 23218]

Mtn with body gymmaxxed get 50 + in 30 min on OLD

I’ve seen enough tinder experiments to know it’s not cope. But the level you need for the halo is pretty high prolly need ped’s so it depends on base if it’s worth it

 

[Deleted member 18582]

This guy has every reason to have a high bc , every gymmaxxed normie guys i know are slayers

slayer of mtbs ?

 

[Deleted member 24789]

I’ve seen enough tinder experiments to know it’s not cope. But the level you need for the halo is pretty high prolly need ped’s so it depends if it’s worth it

Just looksmax for urself

 

[Deleted member 24789]

slayer of mtbs ?

Who cares, he just fuck

 

[JohnDoe]

Get an escort if your goal is golddiggers
But again, as men we can NEVER fully comprehend which men are considered attractive to women, we can come kind of sort of close but there will always be differences. Even GAY MEN have different tastes to straight women, it’s impossible to know.

If you want a genuine relationship and the closest thing to love that exists, be good looking
If you want a parasite who uses you for your money, get an escort or a golddigger. Insane to me that these are equal in your mind, you don’t pay attention enough.

I’ve been gl my whole life and have switched my personality 100% on purpose to test whether it matters even a tiny bit
It literally never made a difference. I have no doubt if i pretended to be autistic it would bring me DOWN, though.

Also nt is a prerequisite not a boost, it will never bring you UP, NOT having it will bring you DOWN. If you’re successful with women you are attractive to women, this whole thread is what happens when you listen to Indian incels about what makes a man attractive. Your rating is your experience with women, nothing else.

Oh also, being an INCEL is stupidly insanely rare. Almost nobody is an incel
To be an incel you almost have to be autistic, only giga subhumans are incel based on looks alone

>Incel epidemic
>no one is an incel
Lol. Everything matters, each woman will have a minimum attractiveness level and if you hit that criteria then other things come in to play. But most incels don't and what about truecels like me? Over

 

[Deleted member 18582]

Who cares

i do

 

[Deleted member 18582]

>Incel epidemic
>no one is an incel
Lol. Everything matters, each woman will have a minimum attractiveness level and if you hit that criteria then other things come in to play. But most incels don't and what about truecels like me? Over

the better thing to ask--are you below her maximum attractiveness level

 

[loksr]

Face is king but saying gym is cope is asinine tbh. Going from lanklet to gymaxxed with some roid cycles will increase ur smv cause you can fraud a bigger frame.

the vast majority of people who do roids don’t even look roided. Not to mention the effects on aging and hair.

When I say it’s cope I’m not saying it does literally nothing, I’m saying other things are more important, probably easier, and if you’re roiding, SIGNIFICANTLY less risk. So what you’re suggesting is that you get a top % of results to get a NICHEMAXX (remember that body is a nichemaxx, it’s not a mass appeal thing, when you go body you’re going for a specific type of girl.) all of this when MANY other MUCH easier MUCH less risky nichemaxxes exist (you can’t convince me the results of a mtn becoming roided will be much different than a mtn becoming an eboy, not counting facial benefits from leanmaxxing ofc)

At the end of the day, it’s better to be a gymmaxxed mtn than a fat mtn, that’s obvious, so just do what feels right for you.
But the reason I say all this is that guys get unrealistic expectations for gymmaxxing and ALWAYS end up disappointed. Even bluepilled men experience this. That’s why I always just say “gym is cope,” it’s the simplified version of what I’m actually saying

 

[loksr]

>Incel epidemic
>no one is an incel
Lol. Everything matters, each woman will have a minimum attractiveness level and if you hit that criteria then other things come in to play. But most incels don't and what about truecels like me? Over

There is no incel epidemic, those studies ask autistic engineering students if they’re incels and then act like the high number is representative of the entire population.

The other studies take “not married” to mean “incel”

 

[Deleted member 24789]

the vast majority of people who do roids don’t even look roided. Not to mention the effects on aging and hair.

When I say it’s cope I’m not saying it does literally nothing, I’m saying other things are more important, probably easier, and if you’re roiding, SIGNIFICANTLY less risk. So what you’re suggesting is that you get a top % of results to get a NICHEMAXX (remember that body is a nichemaxx, it’s not a mass appeal thing, when you go body you’re going for a specific type of girl.) all of this when MANY other MUCH easier MUCH less risky nichemaxxes exist (you can’t convince me the results of a mtn becoming roided will be much different than a mtn becoming an eboy, not counting facial benefits from leanmaxxing ofc)

At the end of the day, it’s better to be a gymmaxxed mtn than a fat mtn, that’s obvious, so just do what feels right for you.
But the reason I say all this is that guys get unrealistic expectations for gymmaxxing and ALWAYS end up disappointed. Even bluepilled men experience this. That’s why I always just say “gym is cope,” it’s the simplified version of what I’m actually saying

Cope

Body is not nichemax

Body is female natural desire u retard

 

[Deleted member 24789]

@loksr rate urself
And whats ur height

Ure nothing more than an ugly coper

All u say is nonsense

Only htn get approched
Being incel is autism every mtn gets iois
Gym is cope only being htn matter
Blabla only contradictions

And what after? Height is cope?


Muh women likes skinny guys

Hell no !

Thats a SKINNY GUY

 

[Deleted member 23218]

When I say it’s cope I’m not saying it does literally nothing, I’m saying other things are more important, probably easier, and if you’re roiding, SIGNIFICANTLY less risk. So what you’re suggesting is that you get a top % of results to get a NICHEMAXX (remember that body is a nichemaxx, it’s not a mass appeal thing, when you go body you’re going for a specific type of girl.) all of this when MANY other MUCH easier MUCH less risky nichemaxxes exist (you can’t convince me the results of a mtn becoming roided will be much different than a mtn becoming an eboy, not counting facial benefits from leanmaxxing ofc)

At the end of the day, it’s better to be a gymmaxxed mtn than a fat mtn, that’s obvious, so just do what feels right for you.
But the reason I say all this is that guys get unrealistic expectations for gymmaxxing and ALWAYS end up disappointed. Even bluepilled men experience this. That’s why I always just say “gym is cope,” it’s the simplified version of what I’m actually saying

Running low doses of t won’t effect ur collagen that much and will give you a decent boost if ur a good responder. If u lose hair, you were gonna lose it anyways.

Saying fashionmaxxing (eboy maxxing) is beyond low iq tbh. Gymaxxing directly effects frame. Ur basically saying frame doesent matter which is not true at all. Ur benefits from it depend on ur base ofc.

 

[loksr]

@loksr rate urself
And whats ur height

Ure nothing more than an ugly coper

All u say is nonsense

Only htn get approched
Being incel is autism every mtn gets iois
Gym is cope only being htn matter
Blabla only contradictions

And what after? Height is cope?

I’m above average, don’t know or care about my psl rating. Average height. Never struggled with women a day in my life. But who I am is 100% completely irrelevant because you can go and find ANY good looking man irl, ask him about these things, and confirm it for yourselves. I don’t say things that you can’t confirm with real people in your real life. You can think I’m anything from a subhuman to a gigachad, nt to autistic, white to black to indian, doesn’t matter, go find a good looking guy and watch it all add up.

Nothing I’ve said is contradictory (ironic you call me contradictory, you went from calling yourself a “skinny 2.5 psl,” to calling yourself a “normie who gets iois all the time” which i let slide), at all, never in my life have I said mtn’s get iois (imo 99% of what guys here call iois are just cope). I said mtns are not INCEL (fact, there’s no such thing as an adult nt mtn who’s involuntarily a virgin)

You’re confusing me with the million other replies in this thread. What I’ve said since the beginning of me being on this website, is that the blackpill has NOTHING to do with what normies/subhumans CAN’T do, and EVERYTHING to do with what gl men CAN do.

When I say that things are cope what I mean is that face is first and foremost THE most important thing in the world and it is NOT close. As a general rule, everything matters for mtn’s, when I say things are cope i’m not literally saying they do nothing, I’m attacking guys like you who delude yourselves into believing that a tall gymcelled mtn beats out gl guys, it’s delusion. A tall gymcelled mtn might beat out a regular mtn (I don’t want to get into how actually complicated this shit is irl, i am on my phone and outside and I’m typing fucking essays for you. You guys always think girls work like german engineers “muh chad 1 is 0.0001% better than chad 2 thus I pick chad 1” but the reality is very different and complex), but you guys think that it’s MORE important than face which is retarded.

 

[loksr]

Running low doses of t won’t effect ur collagen that much and will give you a decent boost if ur a good responder. If u lose hair, you were gonna lose it anyways.

Saying fashionmaxxing (eboy maxxing) is beyond low iq tbh. Gymaxxing directly effects frame. Ur basically saying frame doesent matter which is not true at all. Ur benefits from it depend on ur base ofc.

Frame is very important but it’s skeletal frame
From what I’ve seen a roided framelet is still a framelet

 

[Deleted member 24789]

I’m above average, don’t know or care about my psl rating. Average height. Never struggled with women a day in my life. But who I am is 100% completely irrelevant because you can go and find ANY good looking man irl, ask him about these things, and confirm it for yourselves. I don’t say things that you can’t confirm with real people in your real life. You can think I’m anything from a subhuman to a gigachad, nt to autistic, white to black to indian, doesn’t matter, go find a good looking guy and watch it all add up.

Nothing I’ve said is contradictory (ironic you call me contradictory, you went from calling yourself a “skinny 2.5 psl,” to calling yourself a “normie who gets iois all the time” which i let slide), at all, never in my life have I said mtn’s get iois (imo 99% of what guys here call iois are just cope). I said mtns are not INCEL (fact, there’s no such thing as an adult nt mtn who’s involuntarily a virgin)

You’re confusing me with the million other replies in this thread. What I’ve said since the beginning of me being on this website, is that the blackpill has NOTHING to do with what normies/subhumans CAN’T do, and EVERYTHING to do with what gl men CAN do.

When I say that things are cope what I mean is that face is first and foremost THE most important thing in the world and it is NOT close. As a general rule, everything matters for mtn’s, when I say things are cope i’m not literally saying they do nothing, I’m attacking guys like you who delude yourselves into believing that a tall gymcelled mtn beats out gl guys, it’s delusion. A tall gymcelled mtn might beat out a regular mtn (I don’t want to get into how actually complicated this shit is irl, i am on my phone and outside and I’m typing fucking essays for you. You guys always think girls work like german engineers “muh chad 1 is 0.0001% better than chad 2 thus I pick chad 2” but the reality is very different and complex), but you guys think that it’s MORE important than face which is retarded.

Drnd

 

[Deleted member 24789]

And i mog u fs

 

[loksr]

Drnd

Go meet a good looking guy. Ask him questions.

 

[Deleted member 24789]

Go meet a good looking guy. Ask him questions.

Dont need to

 

[Deleted member 23218]

Frame is very important but it’s skeletal frame
From what I’ve seen a roided framelet is still a framelet

Depends on ur skeletal proportions. Blackgymaxx has narrow shoulders but roiding gave him a much better frame. He is a framecel naturally

 

[loksr]

And i mog u fsView attachment 2363599

If that’s not a shitpost then you need to fucking leanmax jesus fucking christ.

 

[Deleted member 24789]

If that’s not a shitpost then you need to fucking leanmax jesus fucking christ.

Oh its not u ? Nvm

 

[loksr]

Oh its not u ? Nvm

Lmao

 

[loksr]

Depends on ur skeletal proportions. Blackgymaxx has narrow shoulders but roiding gave him a much better frame. He is a framecel naturally

I’ll take your word for it but we’re getting into a narrower and narrower field of who actually benefits from gymmaxxing which just keeps proving my point

 

[vipr0digy]

My friends all have found true love, dated, and lived..I havent found anything, is it cause I waited and got nothing? Even when trying, SO MANY FUVKIN TIMES I COULD OF GOT ONE BUT ALL THEY DID WAS JUST LEAVE

 

[Deleted member 25534]

cope

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[Vvvvxxxx]

the ONLY women who know what good looks are: TANNED DARK BLUE EYED DIRTY BLONDE 5'10 VS ANGEL PROPORTIONS AND BODYFAT FORWARD GROWN FULL LIPPED SKI SLOPE NOSED ALMOND EYED TRENDY BUSHY EYEBROWS WHITE ANGLO SAXON PROTESTANT UPPER CLASS FOID WITH A LONG AND SLENDER NECK, DEFINE COLLARBONES WHO OOZES ARISTOCRACY AND NOBILITY AND GRACE AND SPLENDOR WHO IS SIGNED TO WILHELMINA, FORD OR ELITE MANAGEMENT AND LOOKS SUNKISSED WITH FAINT FRECKLES THAT BLENDS IN WITH HER TANNED ARYAN SKIN


ALL other women's sexual desire and feeling of what is good looking is TAINTED by PRIMORDIAL INSECURITY

I kind of get the point you’re making here. The problem is we live in times of plenty.

 

[actualunderstander]

Truth man. More about your personality. Unless you're flat out ugly of course

 

[BucketCrab]

They are more concerned with feeling more power over you than you being hot, and one of the prime ways they do this is by being hotter than YOU.

Some women really are like that, and will LTR guys that are less attractive than them.
The critical point you're missing is that they will still fuck you, though

 

[Pei]

if a girl says these guys are anything less than a 10/10--it's a surefire sign she has deeprooted mental issues. You simply do not exist as a healthy, mentally stable person and say these guys are unattractive.

These guys look like dog shit compared to the actual perfect human skull structure in Paleolithic humans (Barrett os close)