Reminder that it’s never over.

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With this thread i want to motivate at least some of the guys here. I want to delete this negative thinking in the community and remind you that it’s never truly over.

In order to be happy, we generally need a partner and to make a family (that’s extremely generalised, there’s a lot more but that is fundamental). For that you would need to be attractive

There are 2 main things that make a man attractive: those are height and face. I want to first talk about the height.

For the past few years i’ve been quite anti social and haven’t been going to any parties at all. For that reason i wasn’t really in this “reality”, my “reality” was everything that i’ve heard from the internet and i strongly believed that guys under 6 ft struggle extremely much and that it’s almost impossible for a woman to find a man under 6 ft attractive. However, for this halloween i was out with my friends and we ended up at some party. And the amount of guys who were under 5’10 and had girlfriends absolutely shocked me, sometimes their gfs were even taller than them, and they seemed genuinely happy. Overall a lot of things happened that night that made me realise how disconnected from reality i was. Guys trust, height only makes you stand out at some clubs and in a crowd full of people. You barely even need to be there ever. The thing that truly makes a woman love you is the face. Imagine you sleep next to each other or you just sit on the bench talking and you look into each other’s faces. Of course this will be the most important factor out there. If you are short, you can just find a woman who is 2-3 inches shorter and a lot of women will actually be fine with that. Believe me or not some women even prefer having a boyfriend who is only a little bit taller than them.

So, second thing is the face. You might think that it’s completely over for you because of your face alone. But i’ve analysed so many faces and came to the conclusion that even a lot of subhumans are saveable… I’m not joking, we know so much about facial aesthetics now and we have seen so many transformations. We don’t have to go into extremes though because you are most likely average looking and there’s a lot an average dude can do. Let’s say you’re average guy who has this flaws: acne, your hair is shit, chin is recessed, nose is big, you’re 20% bodyfat. What you do is clear your skin, you grow out your hair, you save up for genioplasty, you save up for rhino and you lean down to ~10% bodyfat (by the way this is not nearly everything you can do, there’s A LOT more, minoxidil for eyebrows and lashes, dyeing them dark, tanning, fixing your teeth etc). And boom: you go from MTN to Chadlite. And again, most of you guys are average looking and you have flaws that you can fix in order to improve.

If you put some effort into improving your looks it’s never over. There could be exceptions for guys under 5’5 or extremely subhuman face but don’t act like you’re the one, if you read this you’re most likely average. Don’t give up and remember that there’s always hope and that there’s always someone for you.
 
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Just because you were at one Halloween party and see some small guys (shorter than average) that are with girls, does not mean that all short guys are with girls. This is an example of what we call survivorship bias. For each guy you see that is with a girl, there may be 1,000 more guys who are home alone in their room and jerking off to porn. This is true for so many other things as well. The point is not about "finding a woman." The point is about being able to compete in a sexual marketplace globally, where women can choose from an endless number of potential partners through dating apps and social media. Your local party has no relevance. This whole post is DNR
 
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people will unironically say it's over and nothing surgery can do, while people like bgm exist

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Just because you were at one Halloween party and see some small guys (shorter than average) that are with girls, does not mean that all short guys are with girls. This is an example of what we call survivorship bias. For each guy you see that is with a girl, there may be 1,000 more guys who are home alone in their room and jerking off to porn. This is true for so many other things as well. The point is not about "finding a woman." The point is about being able to compete in a sexual marketplace globally, where women can choose from an endless number of potential partners through dating apps and social media. Your local party has no relevance. This whole post is DNR
yeah i don’t agree with that. the face is what matters the most for a woman to find you attractive. you stand out way more in public if you’re tall but in order to be actually loved you need the face and to be just a bit taller than the girl it’s not some mystery. A lot of girls prefer men who are just a bit over their height not literally towering over them. All the height difference vids that you see on tiktok have a lot of views only because it’s kinda intresting to watch and more people interact with it thru comments etc, it doesn’t represent the reality though. it’s true that most of the people will never ascend as you said but it’s because they lack knowledge about looksmaxxing and gave up early.
 
yeah i don’t agree with that. the face is what matters the most for a woman to find you attractive. you stand out way more in public if you’re tall but in order to be actually loved you need the face and to be just a bit taller than the girl it’s not some mystery. A lot of girls prefer men who are just a bit over their height not literally towering over them. All the height difference vids that you see on tiktok have a lot of views only because it’s kinda intresting to watch and more people interact with it thru comments etc, it doesn’t represent the reality though. it’s true that most of the people will never ascend as you said but it’s because they lack knowledge about looksmaxxing and gave up early.
While a bitches attraction to your appearance is important for her sexual desire, she will never have a chance to appreciate your face if your height eliminates you from consideration right away. So in order to possibly have your face influence her desire (i.e., have your face work in your favor), you first have to avoid being immediately disqualified by your height to initially allow you to pass the genetic test of your physical attractiveness and potentially begin the process of making her sexually attracted to youu

Your primary concern should be that you have to be tall enough so that she does not immediately eliminate you due to your height and you also have to be hot enough to keep her interested.
 

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