reminder that @noobs is a nazi who worships an ETHNIC man

[Deleted member 46404]

Also you dumbass, Allah just means God in Arabic @PrinceLuenLeoncur

Classic how you're talking about Christianity yet you've had sex out of marriage and probably sinned multiple times, but hey, Jesus died for your sins right! You can do whatever you want

 

[Deleted member 46404]

So your an Gayrheist?

Is that your worldview? Ok so my reason is simple. Prophecies, miracles, archeological and historical evidence from contemporary sources such as Tacitus, Pliny the Younger, Thallos and Josephus etc etc of the person of Jesus doing what he claimed to do whilst alive (ironically we have no contemporary sources on Mohammed and no archeological evidence that Mecca even existed during his life). Ironically of all religions Christianity is the only one with any substantial evidence outside of “MUH faith” making it the “safe” option for even those who dont know jack shit

The world doesn’t make sense without God how else can we ground metaphysical abstract and universal concepts such as logic?

We need something to coherently justify and ground these concepts such as Knowledge, Ethnics and universals.

As an atheist you have no justification for anything and this should be a Nihilist. Your worldview is then contradictory as David Hume put it, cannot seperate a is from an Ought

Logic. “Autonomous man can make no direct case for the validity of logic. He can not even say what logic is. Is logic a substance? Is it a property? Is it concrete and particular, or is it abstract and universal? What is it and where is it? This problem is particularly difficult for materialists. Not having a category for non-material universal entities, they often suggest that logic is merely a convention. This of course makes it arbitrary and destroys its universality.”

So now why the Christian god why not the Hindu god or Sikh or Muslim or modern jewish one?

Simple their worldviews run counter to reality and thus contradict.

Hindus belive in monism thag there is one god but god resides in all this is nonsensical because if we are all god then there is no god and their worldview posits that we live in an sort of illusion which in of itself removed the possibility for knowledge and therefore truth. If this were true then like Islam I’ll mention soon the world should be more in chaotic flux with random occurances of physics. Sikhs fall into the same thing of Pantheism

Islam and Judaism. Both believe in a Monadical substance as god, this is ok until you realise he has no way to interact with humans and is outside the order of creation meaning he isn’t neccacsry and we can’t know anything about him if he’s supposedly transcendent but has no way to condescend himself to man and in the case of Islam WONT ever do so because it’s below his majesty then how can we say the Quran is the word of this so called transcendent god when we are not transcendent so we literally cannot understand him or his word their proving Islam false. Modern Judaism is a response to Christianity and it shows as they have to create bullshit to make sense of the Theophanies in the Old Testament, once again issue here is their religion literally contradicts their own book and the same issues of immanence and transcendence remains. Islam also follows Atomism which removes true independence from humans and removes secondary causality which means we have an epidemic issue regarding truth and falsehoods as we can’t say what did Allah cause to be and what didn’t. It also runs contrary to science as science is based on the phenomena of causality. Essentially Allah is a dictator who has to destroy the world and recreate it every moment, bogus.

Buddhisms is the opposite of this predetermanistic approach but Buddhists belive in everything having a 2ndary cause but the issue remains… there has to be something that never had a cause to begin the phenomena.

So what you're saying is that the only way God can communicate with his people, is to become a human and talk to them? Why not send messengers like Islam does?

I'm not religious but Islam is the one that probably makes perfect sense to me and doesn't have many contradictions unlike the Bible.

There isn't even a Bible in Jesus' language, that should tell you something.

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

So what you're saying is that the only way God can communicate with his people, is to become a human and talk to them? Why not send messengers like Islam does?

I'm not religious but Islam is the one that probably makes perfect sense to me and doesn't have many contradictions unlike the Bible.

There isn't even a Bible in Jesus' language, that should tell you something.

Did you not hear what I said?

God in Islamis unable to depreciate to the level of creation to make himself known to “prophets” his total and supreme constant of transcendence thag Islam prescribes means he LITERALLY cannot be known by man and due to their collapsing of identity and essence god cannot be distinct in modality meaning to know even a little bit of Allah removes him from being transcendent

Judaism has a differnt issue, they posting the exegesis of the Old Testament “Angel of the Lord” and “Spirit of God” are projections of God. So their version is less messy than Islam but yet again still weird as to why those so called “projections” can feel touch and eat food with Abraham and Jacob and why those so called projections are worshiped……. strange.

The bible is in Greek… are you a retard? Did you know Jesus spoke Greek, he literally spoke to Pontius Pilate who was a Roman centurion over Palestine and he spoke to another Roman. Romans only spoke Greek and Latin so yes JESUS SPOKE GREEK IT WAS THE LINGUA FRANCA OF THE TIME .

WHY WE EASTERN ORTHODOX DO NOT HAVE THIS ISSUE REGARDING GODS TRANSCENDENCE AND IMMINENCE LIKE ISLAM AND JUDAISM.
We Christians have a distinction in gods essence and bis identity and presence. Gods presence which he uses is distinct and it’s that which he uses to communicate with us all, we Christian’s use this to make sense of how he appeared in the theothanies of the Old Testament as stated before. This is called the Energies and essence distinction, and is the only plausible way to make sense as to how a transcended being can become imminent without contradicting. Using the distinction of the uncreated energies used within creation he sends messengers and interacts with us. These energies are uncreated and eternal but there’s a distinction between the ones he uses in temporal reality (our created universe) and within his own personal mode. For example one of them would be his Love and divine glory which is shared amongst each person of the trinity and his glory. Unlike Islam we have ETERNAL attributes that are not transactional and thefore contradictory, wheras in Islam one of Allahs attributes is mercy? But if Allah was first and he had this attribute who is he having mercy to same applies for creation.


WHY DID GOD COME DOWN ?
In the Old Testament the price of sin is death, ancient Jews used to sacrifice animals for atonement of sins. According to the bible and God no other creature is on the same value as humans (this includes angles) but he wanted to change this so we could repent for our sins without needing to do this. So the only being higher than humans on the food chain is god so he sent his only eternally begotten son (2nd person of the trinity) to take on human nature (flesh) and dwell amoung us to show how to live as an example and to be the ultimate Passover lamb (sacrifice) to remove all of our sins.

DOES IT MAKE SENSE NOW





ISLAMIC CONTRADICTIONS

Islam has many contradictions so many too many to even mention . The bible had no contradictions not even a little bit. Did you know mr atheist there’s no evidence of Mecca even existing during the life of Mohammed? Did you also know there’s no contemporary evidence of his existence. I bet you didnt even know that. I’m aware Christianity is reviled and mocked in the west and atheists despise it for some bizzare reason but Islam literally has no coherency as I showed to you in my previous comment which you so casually swept away.

Ok here’s two contradictions in the Quran


While in Quran 3:42-45, we read that it was a group of Angels that ministered to Mary concerning the birth of Jesus, contrary to that, we see from Quran 19:17:21 that there is only one Angel who visited Mary (namely Jibril according to Muslim exegetes) who announced the birth.


Ok now here’s another

“There is absolutely nothing like Allah whatsoever, and He has the attributes of Hearing and Seeing.” This ayah absolutely clears Allah of resembling the creations. It comprises that Allah, ta^ala, is absolutely different from the creations in the Self, Attributes, and Actions.

42:11) The Originator of the heavens and the earth, He has appointed for you pairs of your own kind, and pairs also of cattle. Thus does He multiply you. Naught in the universe is like Him. He is All-Hearing, All-Seeing.

Now watch Allah contradict himself and compare himself with the likeness of creation

Allāh is the Light1 of the heavens and the earth. The example of His light2 is like a niche within which is a lamp;3 the lamp is within glass, the glass as if it were a pearly [white] star lit from [the oil of] a blessed olive tree, neither of the east nor of the west, whose oil would almost glow even if untouched by fire. Light upon light. Allāh guides to His light whom He wills. And Allāh presents examples for the people, and Allāh is Knowing of all things.

Here’s one more mr atheist aka Christophe like 99% of your Ilk even though under Islamic law you’d be killed for not being Muslim or Jew or Christian

1. Surah 5:51 commands not to take Jews and Christians as friends but surah 5:82 commands good relations with them.

 

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og jews were white
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jfl at this epileptic schizo edit the first humans weren't white

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

here is your god @noobs
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Jesus statusmaxxed to beat the ethnic tax before soft/hardmaxxing techniques were even developed

OG looksmaxxer

 

[Pollorex]

@noobs don’t listen to this son of the antichrist. Don’t forget OP is now a “Pagan” who worships literally nothing because the Norse gods don’t exist

 

[Deleted member 85236]

here is your god @noobs
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here is your god @noobs
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What is the point.We don't even know how Jesus Christ looked and it doesn't even matter

 

[Deleted member 72069]

God in human form*

Yes the form he took was a Jew and Jews at that time looked identical to “Arabs” but that’s how revelation works. Its not cucked unless your a racist in which case then your retarded like @cromagnon who can’t even account for why he’s a pagan who worships the Norse gods

I never said I was a Norse pagan you stupid retard fuck ethnic

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

I never said I was a Norse pagan you stupid retard fuck ethnic

u r atheist?

 

[Deleted member 72069]

u r atheist?

Idk what i am

 

[Deleted member 46404]

Did you not hear what I said?

God in Islamis unable to depreciate to the level of creation to make himself known to “prophets” his total and supreme constant of transcendence thag Islam prescribes means he LITERALLY cannot be known by man and due to their collapsing of identity and essence god cannot be distinct in modality meaning to know even a little bit of Allah removes him from being transcendent

Judaism has a differnt issue, they posting the exegesis of the Old Testament “Angel of the Lord” and “Spirit of God” are projections of God. So their version is less messy than Islam but yet again still weird as to why those so called “projections” can feel touch and eat food with Abraham and Jacob and why those so called projections are worshiped……. strange.

The bible is in Greek… are you a retard? Did you know Jesus spoke Greek, he literally spoke to Pontius Pilate who was a Roman centurion over Palestine and he spoke to another Roman. Romans only spoke Greek and Latin so yes JESUS SPOKE GREEK IT WAS THE LINGUA FRANCA OF THE TIME .

WHY WE EASTERN ORTHODOX DO NOT HAVE THIS ISSUE REGARDING GODS TRANSCENDENCE AND IMMINENCE LIKE ISLAM AND JUDAISM.
We Christians have a distinction in gods essence and bis identity and presence. Gods presence which he uses is distinct and it’s that which he uses to communicate with us all, we Christian’s use this to make sense of how he appeared in the theothanies of the Old Testament as stated before. This is called the Energies and essence distinction, and is the only plausible way to make sense as to how a transcended being can become imminent without contradicting. Using the distinction of the uncreated energies used within creation he sends messengers and interacts with us. These energies are uncreated and eternal but there’s a distinction between the ones he uses in temporal reality (our created universe) and within his own personal mode. For example one of them would be his Love and divine glory which is shared amongst each person of the trinity and his glory. Unlike Islam we have ETERNAL attributes that are not transactional and thefore contradictory, wheras in Islam one of Allahs attributes is mercy? But if Allah was first and he had this attribute who is he having mercy to same applies for creation.


WHY DID GOD COME DOWN ?
In the Old Testament the price of sin is death, ancient Jews used to sacrifice animals for atonement of sins. According to the bible and God no other creature is on the same value as humans (this includes angles) but he wanted to change this so we could repent for our sins without needing to do this. So the only being higher than humans on the food chain is god so he sent his only eternally begotten son (2nd person of the trinity) to take on human nature (flesh) and dwell amoung us to show how to live as an example and to be the ultimate Passover lamb (sacrifice) to remove all of our sins.

DOES IT MAKE SENSE NOW





ISLAMIC CONTRADICTIONS

Islam has many contradictions so many too many to even mention . The bible had no contradictions not even a little bit. Did you know mr atheist there’s no evidence of Mecca even existing during the life of Mohammed? Did you also know there’s no contemporary evidence of his existence. I bet you didnt even know that. I’m aware Christianity is reviled and mocked in the west and atheists despise it for some bizzare reason but Islam literally has no coherency as I showed to you in my previous comment which you so casually swept away.

Ok here’s two contradictions in the Quran


While in Quran 3:42-45, we read that it was a group of Angels that ministered to Mary concerning the birth of Jesus, contrary to that, we see from Quran 19:17:21 that there is only one Angel who visited Mary (namely Jibril according to Muslim exegetes) who announced the birth.


Ok now here’s another

“There is absolutely nothing like Allah whatsoever, and He has the attributes of Hearing and Seeing.” This ayah absolutely clears Allah of resembling the creations. It comprises that Allah, ta^ala, is absolutely different from the creations in the Self, Attributes, and Actions.

42:11) The Originator of the heavens and the earth, He has appointed for you pairs of your own kind, and pairs also of cattle. Thus does He multiply you. Naught in the universe is like Him. He is All-Hearing, All-Seeing.

Now watch Allah contradict himself and compare himself with the likeness of creation

Allāh is the Light1 of the heavens and the earth. The example of His light2 is like a niche within which is a lamp;3 the lamp is within glass, the glass as if it were a pearly [white] star lit from [the oil of] a blessed olive tree, neither of the east nor of the west, whose oil would almost glow even if untouched by fire. Light upon light. Allāh guides to His light whom He wills. And Allāh presents examples for the people, and Allāh is Knowing of all things.

Here’s one more mr atheist aka Christophe like 99% of your Ilk even though under Islamic law you’d be killed for not being Muslim or Jew or Christian

1. Surah 5:51 commands not to take Jews and Christians as friends but surah 5:82 commands good relations with them.

lol its virtually impossible for you to prove that jesus spoke greek, also i couldnt care less about islam and its contradictions, it just makes more sense than god coming down as a human aka his son and dying to prove a point.

also explain why people have baptisms lol, whats the point of that? to wash away the original sin? didnt jesus die for your sins already?

are you catholic, orthodox or whatever? whats the difference lol, you all believe in a manmade fiction

also theres literally no proof that he spoke to that roman centurion lol