Replacing finasteride with RU58841, what will happen? (high IQ norwooders help)

[NorwoodMilitant]

Since RU is just a different mechanism of action in protecting those hair follicles from androgens, will this mean they will not miniaturise after switching from finasteride to RU58841?

 

[eyearea]

I would not take a risk. hair=life look at my awatar

 

[Deleted member 275]

I would not take a risk. hair=life look at my awatar

 

[Ampere]

Would still look better with hair

 

[Deleted member 3635]

Since RU is just a different mechanism of action in protecting those hair follicles from androgens, will this mean they will not miniaturise after switching from finasteride to RU58841?

RU is better because and most likely less sides it will also restore more hair in theory since it is blocking out the effects of testostorone as well as DHT

 

[Deleted member 3828]

RU is better because and most likely less sides it will also restore more hair in theory since it is blocking out the effects of testostorone as well as DHT

so it's better cause it makes you more tranny?

 

[Deleted member 3635]

so it's better cause it makes you more tranny?

no its topical its less tranny than nuking ur 5 alpha reductase like finasteride does

 

[Bewusst]

How can you ignore the fact that low methylation of the AR gene in hair follicles is (to a large extent) why DHT can exert its negative effects on your hairline in the first place, when the evidence is clear? If you really want to nuke one of your most important androgens, at least consider covering that aspect as well

 

[NorwoodMilitant]

How can you ignore the fact that low methylation of the AR gene in hair follicles is (to a large extent) why DHT can exert its negative effects on your hairline in the first place, when the evidence is clear? If you really want to nuke one of your most important androgens, at least consider covering that aspect as well

Please explain further

 

[Bewusst]

Please explain further

Just read my threads on the topic

 

[Casadonis]

RU is a little tedious in application and does not guarantee results as much as fin does. You have to keep it cool; apply it the right way; apply the right amount. You can't be sure that it is actually RU etc. This is coming from somebody that uses RU...

 

[Deleted member 1849]

How can you ignore the fact that low methylation of the AR gene in hair follicles is (to a large extent) why DHT can exert its negative effects on your hairline in the first place, when the evidence is clear? If you really want to nuke one of your most important androgens, at least consider covering that aspect as well

Legit. But DHT and T is still a problem with MPB. RU + SAMe, b vitamins etc. are good.

 

[Deleted member 6963]

Any updates? How is the ru going

 

[Deleted member 14274]

Since RU is just a different mechanism of action in protecting those hair follicles from androgens, will this mean they will not miniaturise after switching from finasteride to RU58841?

Don't replace it. Either add RU on top of Fin or don't use it. Ideally you need systemic DHT protection and a topical anti androgen but if you have to pick one go with Fin.

 

[alainchalamet]

Don't replace it. Either add RU on top of Fin or don't use it. Ideally you need systemic DHT protection and a topical anti androgen but if you have to pick one go with Fin.

u use some dutasteride as well as fin or only fin?

 

[Deleted member 14274]

u use some dutasteride as well as fin or only fin?

I'm blasting 500 test right now so I use Fin/RU/Min/Nizoral and have Dutasteride on hand if I need it. But 5ar inhibitor + topical anti androgen is the best strategy.

 

[alainchalamet]

ok nice, I'm just not sure if I want to commit to minox yet as you kind of gotta keep using it forever right? Thinking of getting some dut as backup when starting trt

 

[Deleted member 14274]

ok nice, I'm just not sure if I want to commit to minox yet as you kind of gotta keep using it forever right? Thinking of getting some dut as backup when starting trt

Yeah minox is a huge pain in the ass. Fin alone should be fine. You shouldn't need Dut on TRT doses. Dut only gives you more systemic DHT protection compared to Fin and you will be inhibiting DHT that isn't active on the scalp. RU is a MUCH better compound overall. Dut should just be a last resort IMO.

 

[Deleted member 14274]

RU is better because and most likely less sides it will also restore more hair in theory since it is blocking out the effects of testostorone as well as DHT

This.

 

[alainchalamet]

Yeah minox is a huge pain in the ass. Fin alone should be fine. You shouldn't need Dut on TRT doses. Dut only gives you more systemic DHT protection compared to Fin and you will be inhibiting DHT that isn't active on the scalp. RU is a MUCH better compound overall. Dut should just be a last resort IMO.

ok I'll stay with only fin for a while then. Will look into Ru if I ever do cycles of test I guess.

 

[NorwoodMilitant]

Don't replace it. Either add RU on top of Fin or don't use it. Ideally you need systemic DHT protection and a topical anti androgen but if you have to pick one go with Fin.

Yeah man since I wrote that reply I have been using both and had good results. Maybe after a few more years there'll be something that can replace fin without having lame side effects

 

[SOS-Sonic]

I tried it, it 75-100mg/day maintained my hair but it didn't regrow anything. It perhaps underperformed compared to finasteride in my case, but it still works no doubt. Ideally one should be on both fin + ru, as i am right now.

 

[eduardkoopman]

Yeah man since I wrote that reply I have been using both and had good results. Maybe after a few more years there'll be something that can replace fin without having lame side effects

I tried it, it 75-100mg/day maintained my hair but it didn't regrow anything. It perhaps underperformed compared to finasteride in my case, but it still works no doubt. Ideally one should be on both fin + ru, as i am right now.

Can ru be mixed with minoxidill? And/or dermarollind scalp?

 

[NorwoodMilitant]

Can ru be mixed with minoxidill? And/or dermarollind scalp?

Ye, follow Moreplatesmoredates RU/Minoxidil Combination Solution guide. I'd advise to not use Kirkland though as it is greasy and will make your hair look and feel like shit. Use minoxidilmax No-PG, Fast Dry minox. I use that shit with the RU mixed in and it makes no difference to my hair so it's a godsend

 

[SOS-Sonic]

Can ru be mixed with minoxidill? And/or dermarollind scalp?

Yes, but apparently it doesn't dissolve well and it is greasy. So I just bought ethanol and propylene glycol since it is even cheaper than minoxidil. And we should wait a day after dermarolling before applying RU to avoid too much systemic absorption.