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Hello all,

As the title suggests, I am a long-time returning member from a previous forum, lookism.net. I’d like to share with all of you my journey with looksmaxxing, how I ended up here, and my biggest takeaways. Before I begin, I thought I’d preface that I’m not looking to humble brag, nor am I looking for clout or even responses. I just hope that at least one of you will read this and feel a little more optimistic. Feel free to read the entirety of this post or just jump to the main points, whatever works best for you.

Brief Background
As I said, there’s no need to bring up too much of my life as to hopefully avoid comparisons. I grew up in the suburbs, and I moved around a bit as a younger kid. I joined my elementary school late, and I was socially more inept, probably because of some undiagnosed autism/adhd, or maybe simply a lack of social development. I was bullied pretty significantly from elementary school up until the middle of high school, and I was in a predominantly white area whilst also being Indian. I fit the stereotypes, and I didn’t do much to break them. In high school, I ended up having a real change of heart, and switched around sophomore year from doing whatever my parents told me to becoming my own person. From that point on is where my life, despite having its ups and downs, has been significantly better.

Main reason for growth
I was pretty angry about my treatment from others, and it led me to do what I could to become less of a social outcast and more of a well-liked, “popular” individual. I, like most of you, quickly learned that looks play a big role in this, and I did get lucky in some regards thanks to puberty. HOWEVER, I’m not Chad or even Chadlite in my opinion, and that’s probably what even led me to the blackpill.

Lifestyle changes and early lessons
I started working out, which really does help build confidence, regardless of your “genetics.” I’ve seen many of my friends at the very least use it as a jumping point, especially when life seems to be fruitless, because you’ll have a baseline of something you’ve worked for, and it’ll always be something to look forward to. I also made sure that my academics were good, not perfect, but decent enough to allow for me to attend university. I focused on sports not just as a means for social interaction but to find yet another point of growth. After all this, I had a solid base by the end of high school, but I learned some valuable lessons.

Firstly, delayed gratification is everything. The gym is the perfect example of this, because you won’t see results right away, but that journey is what is so fulfilling. You keep setting goals, and you keep climbing. This is what life is about. This personal growth is what will keep you motivated.

The second lesson I learned is that focusing on shallow purpose will yield shallow happiness. Having a lot of friends is nice, having a hot girl is nice, having “clout” is nice, even money is good, but not a single one of those things will fulfill you. Building close friends, Finding solace in ANY relationship, not just sexual, and having financial stability is what will genuinely make you happier.

The final lesson is this pursuit of looks is meaningless. It is only a pit of despair. My loneliest nights staring at the mirror, worried about if my UEE or height or hair or nose or genetics or any part of my body were enough. And it’s never enough, because obviously there will always be someone better looking. You shouldn’t let this be an excuse to LDAR. Instead, accept it, and succeed despite it. We live in what I would consider one of the most superficial time periods of humanity, so be the outlier. Focus on values which build you as a person, not just things which keep dropping into an ever-growing bucket. And try to be a considerate and kind person. You’d be surprised how much satisfaction you get having a conversation with a homeless person you’d get, simply by making their day.

Conclusion and final thoughts
Yes this is a bit all over the place, but the main things I wanted to say seem to be all there, in this jumbled mess. Hopefully you all will eventually realize like I did that you can be a good person and focus on growth, and it will yield a lot more than simply focusing on looks. Yes, they’re important, everyone knows this. But will it define you? As someone who’s been in your shoes, I’d say don’t let it become your downfall. As I said before, succeed despite the odds being stacked against you.

If any of you have questions or want clarification, you can reply or dm me. I’d be happy to have a chat if any of you would like. Thanks again for your time, and remember, you matter.
 
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DNR for now I'll get back to you later
 
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Easy to say when you meet the looks threshold.
You say all you did was gym.

I did a tren cycle and was fully softmaxxed, STILL rejected by society and foids. Now I’m getting surgery as a last attempt to change things.

And yes, I WILL LDAR if this final attempt isn’t effective, because I refuse to keep paying into a society which treats me as refuse. It’s not delayed gratification - it’s simply no gratification, ever.

Such a priveleged take.
 
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Easy to say when you meet the looks threshold.
You say all you did was gym.

I did a tren cycle and was fully softmaxxed, STILL rejected by society and foids. Now I’m getting surgery as a last attempt to change things.

And yes, I WILL LDAR if this final attempt isn’t effective, because I refuse to keep paying into a society which treats me as refuse. It’s not delayed gratification - it’s simply no gratification, ever.

Such a priveleged take.
why tf would you hop on tren bro. also LDAR is just delayed suicide ur better off just full sending anything ur good at. If you genuinely have 0 talent, 0 passion, 0 looks, 0 social skills, and 0 bread then yeah do what u want but i bet 99% have at least something.
 
why tf would you hop on tren bro. also LDAR is just delayed suicide ur better off just full sending anything ur good at. If you genuinely have 0 talent, 0 passion, 0 looks, 0 social skills, and 0 bread then yeah do what u want but i bet 99% have at least something.

Yeah I have none of these things. My genetics are subhuman, it takes TRT for me to look DYEL and tren for me to look like a natty lifter with six months experience.

I have zero monetisable talent or passion. My actual interests from pre-blackpill are cheap (I’ve always been poor) and can be done while LDARing anyway.

My looks are obviously zero, zero matches on tinder. I would not be getting surgeries if it were otherwise. Likewise, my social skills are zero as normies refuse to interact with a subhuman.

I do have some money saved but my job is shit and I only get £30k a year after tax. It doesn’t seem worth being lifemogged five days a week by the normies there.

So there’s my justification to LDAR. I’m not dumb I’m just a failure.
 
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Yeah I have none of these things. My genetics are subhuman, it takes TRT for me to look DYEL and tren for me to look like a natty lifter with six months experience.

I have zero monetisable talent or passion. My actual interests from pre-blackpill are cheap (I’ve always been poor) and can be done while LDARing anyway.

My looks are obviously zero, zero matches on tinder. I would not be getting surgeries if it were otherwise. Likewise, my social skills are zero as normies refuse to interact with a subhuman.

I do have some money saved but my job is shit and I only get £30k a year after tax. It doesn’t seem worth being lifemogged five days a week by the normies there.

So there’s my justification to LDAR. I’m not dumb I’m just a failure.
Smartest looksmaxxer in 2025 🤦‍♂️
Bro 6 months is nothing how old are you for you to hop on tren if you’ve never even worked out.

Also nice Tinder the gold standard where it’s so easy to get girls. I wonder if you’ve talked to more than 5 girls in a month.

Average using looks as an excuse to be an absolute bum, also 30k is like min wage so I’m just gonna assume you don’t have an education either. There’s like 100 steps before surgery/drugs and you skipped all of em. Either you have the worst work ethic of all time or are just negative IQ.

I’d need to know more about you to help with specific steps but it seems like you’re just a dumbass who decided it was your looks that were holding you back when it was most likely ur just retarded.
 
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Hello all,

As the title suggests, I am a long-time returning member from a previous forum, lookism.net. I’d like to share with all of you my journey with looksmaxxing, how I ended up here, and my biggest takeaways. Before I begin, I thought I’d preface that I’m not looking to humble brag, nor am I looking for clout or even responses. I just hope that at least one of you will read this and feel a little more optimistic. Feel free to read the entirety of this post or just jump to the main points, whatever works best for you.

Brief Background
As I said, there’s no need to bring up too much of my life as to hopefully avoid comparisons. I grew up in the suburbs, and I moved around a bit as a younger kid. I joined my elementary school late, and I was socially more inept, probably because of some undiagnosed autism/adhd, or maybe simply a lack of social development. I was bullied pretty significantly from elementary school up until the middle of high school, and I was in a predominantly white area whilst also being Indian. I fit the stereotypes, and I didn’t do much to break them. In high school, I ended up having a real change of heart, and switched around sophomore year from doing whatever my parents told me to becoming my own person. From that point on is where my life, despite having its ups and downs, has been significantly better.

Main reason for growth
I was pretty angry about my treatment from others, and it led me to do what I could to become less of a social outcast and more of a well-liked, “popular” individual. I, like most of you, quickly learned that looks play a big role in this, and I did get lucky in some regards thanks to puberty. HOWEVER, I’m not Chad or even Chadlite in my opinion, and that’s probably what even led me to the blackpill.

Lifestyle changes and early lessons
I started working out, which really does help build confidence, regardless of your “genetics.” I’ve seen many of my friends at the very least use it as a jumping point, especially when life seems to be fruitless, because you’ll have a baseline of something you’ve worked for, and it’ll always be something to look forward to. I also made sure that my academics were good, not perfect, but decent enough to allow for me to attend university. I focused on sports not just as a means for social interaction but to find yet another point of growth. After all this, I had a solid base by the end of high school, but I learned some valuable lessons.

Firstly, delayed gratification is everything. The gym is the perfect example of this, because you won’t see results right away, but that journey is what is so fulfilling. You keep setting goals, and you keep climbing. This is what life is about. This personal growth is what will keep you motivated.

The second lesson I learned is that focusing on shallow purpose will yield shallow happiness. Having a lot of friends is nice, having a hot girl is nice, having “clout” is nice, even money is good, but not a single one of those things will fulfill you. Building close friends, Finding solace in ANY relationship, not just sexual, and having financial stability is what will genuinely make you happier.

The final lesson is this pursuit of looks is meaningless. It is only a pit of despair. My loneliest nights staring at the mirror, worried about if my UEE or height or hair or nose or genetics or any part of my body were enough. And it’s never enough, because obviously there will always be someone better looking. You shouldn’t let this be an excuse to LDAR. Instead, accept it, and succeed despite it. We live in what I would consider one of the most superficial time periods of humanity, so be the outlier. Focus on values which build you as a person, not just things which keep dropping into an ever-growing bucket. And try to be a considerate and kind person. You’d be surprised how much satisfaction you get having a conversation with a homeless person you’d get, simply by making their day.

Conclusion and final thoughts
Yes this is a bit all over the place, but the main things I wanted to say seem to be all there, in this jumbled mess. Hopefully you all will eventually realize like I did that you can be a good person and focus on growth, and it will yield a lot more than simply focusing on looks. Yes, they’re important, everyone knows this. But will it define you? As someone who’s been in your shoes, I’d say don’t let it become your downfall. As I said before, succeed despite the odds being stacked against you.

If any of you have questions or want clarification, you can reply or dm me. I’d be happy to have a chat if any of you would like. Thanks again for your time, and remember, you matter.
DNR
 
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Yo, agree on delayed gratification, I'm an "oldcel" myself, and I had to learn this shit via blackpill, nothing really motivated me that much to try harder, than remembering that literal Stacies wanted me when I was a twink, and all that changed was the bodyfat so I'm getting rid of that and oh boy the difference is in 'treatment' is shocking even for the 'blackpilled'..

Pursuit of looks is what we do here, but many guys here just declare that ITSOVER and ldar cope destructive
 
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Bro 6 months is nothing how old are you for you to hop on tren if you’ve never even worked out.

Also nice Tinder the gold standard where it’s so easy to get girls. I wonder if you’ve talked to more than 5 girls in a month.

Average using looks as an excuse to be an absolute bum, also 30k is like min wage so I’m just gonna assume you don’t have an education either. There’s like 100 steps before surgery/drugs and you skipped all of em. Either you have the worst work ethic of all time or are just negative IQ.

I’d need to know more about you to help with specific steps but it seems like you’re just a dumbass who decided it was your looks that were holding you back when it was most likely ur just retarded.

1. I’ve been lifting for 12 years and tried every routine and diet under the sun. It’s shit genetics. I have not used Tren continuously but it’s the only thing that gives me a half decent body (which even then looks like guys who natty lifted for a year).

2. There are zero opportunities to meet girls except tinder after university. And tbh for a LTN there are no opportunities at university either. I have not received an IOI in my entire life.

3. I have a masters degree in engineering. This is as good as it gets in the UK with 4 YOE for my field. I have no connections because of my past so getting non-entry-level jobs is impossible.

4. I did every softmaxx there is and some semi-hard maxxes like Botox and was still borderline incel. See images below.

I am nearly 32 so there is no time left to fix any of this. Whether it’s that I was retarded or the UK is just a toilet where you can’t make money and having no social proof is a death spiral, LDAR seems to be my best option.

I mean realistically I’ll be 4 years older than my “softmaxxed” pic there, it’s delusional to think I’ll look better even with surgery, the effects of aging will massively outweigh the bone gains.
 

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Yo, agree on delayed gratification, I'm an "oldcel" myself, and I had to learn this shit via blackpill, nothing really motivated me that much to try harder, than remembering that literal Stacies wanted me when I was a twink, and all that changed was the bodyfat so I'm getting rid of that and oh boy the difference is in 'treatment' is shocking even for the 'blackpilled'..

Pursuit of looks is what we do here, but many guys here just declare that ITSOVER and ldar cope destructive

Oh, another one that just had to lose weight and the chad bones came through.

I was 62kg at 188cm. STILL INCEL.
I was 84kg at 188cm at 10% body fat with ab veins on tren. STILL INCEL.

FACE IS LAW.

It’s over when you come from a poor as shit background, with trash genetics, your whole life is social rejection (including being unable to get jobs simply because they don’t like your face) and you can only get surgery in your 30yo only to finally be told “LOL TOO OLD” … and then rope.
 
Oh, another one that just had to lose weight and the chad bones came through.

I was 62kg at 188cm. STILL INCEL.
I was 84kg at 188cm at 10% body fat with ab veins on tren. STILL INCEL.

FACE IS LAW.

It’s over when you come from a poor as shit background, with trash genetics, your whole life is social rejection (including being unable to get jobs simply because they don’t like your face) and you can only get surgery in your 30yo only to finally be told “LOL TOO OLD” … and then rope.
True.
Im sorry for you if that is true "STILL INCEL" part.
I was never an incel, but I descended so hard I had to get my shit together .org is helping a bit.
 
1. I’ve been lifting for 12 years and tried every routine and diet under the sun. It’s shit genetics. I have not used Tren continuously but it’s the only thing that gives me a half decent body (which even then looks like guys who natty lifted for a year).

2. There are zero opportunities to meet girls except tinder after university. And tbh for a LTN there are no opportunities at university either. I have not received an IOI in my entire life.

3. I have a masters degree in engineering. This is as good as it gets in the UK with 4 YOE for my field. I have no connections because of my past so getting non-entry-level jobs is impossible.

4. I did every softmaxx there is and some semi-hard maxxes like Botox and was still borderline incel. See images below.

I am nearly 32 so there is no time left to fix any of this. Whether it’s that I was retarded or the UK is just a toilet where you can’t make money and having no social proof is a death spiral, LDAR seems to be my best option.

I mean realistically I’ll be 4 years older than my “softmaxxed” pic there, it’s delusional to think I’ll look better even with surgery, the effects of aging will massively outweigh the bone gains.
death-tier eyes, :feelswhy:
have you considered geomaxxing?
 
Hello all,

As the title suggests, I am a long-time returning member from a previous forum, lookism.net. I’d like to share with all of you my journey with looksmaxxing, how I ended up here, and my biggest takeaways. Before I begin, I thought I’d preface that I’m not looking to humble brag, nor am I looking for clout or even responses. I just hope that at least one of you will read this and feel a little more optimistic. Feel free to read the entirety of this post or just jump to the main points, whatever works best for you.

Brief Background
As I said, there’s no need to bring up too much of my life as to hopefully avoid comparisons. I grew up in the suburbs, and I moved around a bit as a younger kid. I joined my elementary school late, and I was socially more inept, probably because of some undiagnosed autism/adhd, or maybe simply a lack of social development. I was bullied pretty significantly from elementary school up until the middle of high school, and I was in a predominantly white area whilst also being Indian. I fit the stereotypes, and I didn’t do much to break them. In high school, I ended up having a real change of heart, and switched around sophomore year from doing whatever my parents told me to becoming my own person. From that point on is where my life, despite having its ups and downs, has been significantly better.

Main reason for growth
I was pretty angry about my treatment from others, and it led me to do what I could to become less of a social outcast and more of a well-liked, “popular” individual. I, like most of you, quickly learned that looks play a big role in this, and I did get lucky in some regards thanks to puberty. HOWEVER, I’m not Chad or even Chadlite in my opinion, and that’s probably what even led me to the blackpill.

Lifestyle changes and early lessons
I started working out, which really does help build confidence, regardless of your “genetics.” I’ve seen many of my friends at the very least use it as a jumping point, especially when life seems to be fruitless, because you’ll have a baseline of something you’ve worked for, and it’ll always be something to look forward to. I also made sure that my academics were good, not perfect, but decent enough to allow for me to attend university. I focused on sports not just as a means for social interaction but to find yet another point of growth. After all this, I had a solid base by the end of high school, but I learned some valuable lessons.

Firstly, delayed gratification is everything. The gym is the perfect example of this, because you won’t see results right away, but that journey is what is so fulfilling. You keep setting goals, and you keep climbing. This is what life is about. This personal growth is what will keep you motivated.

The second lesson I learned is that focusing on shallow purpose will yield shallow happiness. Having a lot of friends is nice, having a hot girl is nice, having “clout” is nice, even money is good, but not a single one of those things will fulfill you. Building close friends, Finding solace in ANY relationship, not just sexual, and having financial stability is what will genuinely make you happier.

The final lesson is this pursuit of looks is meaningless. It is only a pit of despair. My loneliest nights staring at the mirror, worried about if my UEE or height or hair or nose or genetics or any part of my body were enough. And it’s never enough, because obviously there will always be someone better looking. You shouldn’t let this be an excuse to LDAR. Instead, accept it, and succeed despite it. We live in what I would consider one of the most superficial time periods of humanity, so be the outlier. Focus on values which build you as a person, not just things which keep dropping into an ever-growing bucket. And try to be a considerate and kind person. You’d be surprised how much satisfaction you get having a conversation with a homeless person you’d get, simply by making their day.

Conclusion and final thoughts
Yes this is a bit all over the place, but the main things I wanted to say seem to be all there, in this jumbled mess. Hopefully you all will eventually realize like I did that you can be a good person and focus on growth, and it will yield a lot more than simply focusing on looks. Yes, they’re important, everyone knows this. But will it define you? As someone who’s been in your shoes, I’d say don’t let it become your downfall. As I said before, succeed despite the odds being stacked against you.

If any of you have questions or want clarification, you can reply or dm me. I’d be happy to have a chat if any of you would like. Thanks again for your time, and remember, you matter.
DNR larp prob no og looksmaxxer comes back ever
 
1. I’ve been lifting for 12 years and tried every routine and diet under the sun. It’s shit genetics. I have not used Tren continuously but it’s the only thing that gives me a half decent body (which even then looks like guys who natty lifted for a year).

2. There are zero opportunities to meet girls except tinder after university. And tbh for a LTN there are no opportunities at university either. I have not received an IOI in my entire life.

3. I have a masters degree in engineering. This is as good as it gets in the UK with 4 YOE for my field. I have no connections because of my past so getting non-entry-level jobs is impossible.

4. I did every softmaxx there is and some semi-hard maxxes like Botox and was still borderline incel. See images below.

I am nearly 32 so there is no time left to fix any of this. Whether it’s that I was retarded or the UK is just a toilet where you can’t make money and having no social proof is a death spiral, LDAR seems to be my best option.

I mean realistically I’ll be 4 years older than my “softmaxxed” pic there, it’s delusional to think I’ll look better even with surgery, the effects of aging will massively outweigh the bone gains.
Ur eyes are mainly holding you back. Get that fixed and ur honestly chilling
 
death-tier eyes, :feelswhy:
have you considered geomaxxing?
Ur eyes are mainly holding you back. Get that fixed and ur honestly chilling

I’m too poor to leave the UK. I am planning on infraorbital implants with a saddle and then periorbital fat grafts (mainly in the supra orbital but also to cover any eventually shoe from the infra implant) at a later date.
 
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Bro 6 months is nothing how old are you for you to hop on tren if you’ve never even worked out.

Also nice Tinder the gold standard where it’s so easy to get girls. I wonder if you’ve talked to more than 5 girls in a month.

Average using looks as an excuse to be an absolute bum, also 30k is like min wage so I’m just gonna assume you don’t have an education either. There’s like 100 steps before surgery/drugs and you skipped all of em. Either you have the worst work ethic of all time or are just negative IQ.

I’d need to know more about you to help with specific steps but it seems like you’re just a dumbass who decided it was your looks that were holding you back when it was most likely ur just retarded.
here you can read discusion about the same topic where I say similar things to him. you can learn more about his opinions and the fact that he feels entitled to things



 
Hello all,

As the title suggests, I am a long-time returning member from a previous forum, lookism.net. I’d like to share with all of you my journey with looksmaxxing, how I ended up here, and my biggest takeaways. Before I begin, I thought I’d preface that I’m not looking to humble brag, nor am I looking for clout or even responses. I just hope that at least one of you will read this and feel a little more optimistic. Feel free to read the entirety of this post or just jump to the main points, whatever works best for you.

Brief Background
As I said, there’s no need to bring up too much of my life as to hopefully avoid comparisons. I grew up in the suburbs, and I moved around a bit as a younger kid. I joined my elementary school late, and I was socially more inept, probably because of some undiagnosed autism/adhd, or maybe simply a lack of social development. I was bullied pretty significantly from elementary school up until the middle of high school, and I was in a predominantly white area whilst also being Indian. I fit the stereotypes, and I didn’t do much to break them. In high school, I ended up having a real change of heart, and switched around sophomore year from doing whatever my parents told me to becoming my own person. From that point on is where my life, despite having its ups and downs, has been significantly better.

Main reason for growth
I was pretty angry about my treatment from others, and it led me to do what I could to become less of a social outcast and more of a well-liked, “popular” individual. I, like most of you, quickly learned that looks play a big role in this, and I did get lucky in some regards thanks to puberty. HOWEVER, I’m not Chad or even Chadlite in my opinion, and that’s probably what even led me to the blackpill.

Lifestyle changes and early lessons
I started working out, which really does help build confidence, regardless of your “genetics.” I’ve seen many of my friends at the very least use it as a jumping point, especially when life seems to be fruitless, because you’ll have a baseline of something you’ve worked for, and it’ll always be something to look forward to. I also made sure that my academics were good, not perfect, but decent enough to allow for me to attend university. I focused on sports not just as a means for social interaction but to find yet another point of growth. After all this, I had a solid base by the end of high school, but I learned some valuable lessons.

Firstly, delayed gratification is everything. The gym is the perfect example of this, because you won’t see results right away, but that journey is what is so fulfilling. You keep setting goals, and you keep climbing. This is what life is about. This personal growth is what will keep you motivated.

The second lesson I learned is that focusing on shallow purpose will yield shallow happiness. Having a lot of friends is nice, having a hot girl is nice, having “clout” is nice, even money is good, but not a single one of those things will fulfill you. Building close friends, Finding solace in ANY relationship, not just sexual, and having financial stability is what will genuinely make you happier.

The final lesson is this pursuit of looks is meaningless. It is only a pit of despair. My loneliest nights staring at the mirror, worried about if my UEE or height or hair or nose or genetics or any part of my body were enough. And it’s never enough, because obviously there will always be someone better looking. You shouldn’t let this be an excuse to LDAR. Instead, accept it, and succeed despite it. We live in what I would consider one of the most superficial time periods of humanity, so be the outlier. Focus on values which build you as a person, not just things which keep dropping into an ever-growing bucket. And try to be a considerate and kind person. You’d be surprised how much satisfaction you get having a conversation with a homeless person you’d get, simply by making their day.

Conclusion and final thoughts
Yes this is a bit all over the place, but the main things I wanted to say seem to be all there, in this jumbled mess. Hopefully you all will eventually realize like I did that you can be a good person and focus on growth, and it will yield a lot more than simply focusing on looks. Yes, they’re important, everyone knows this. But will it define you? As someone who’s been in your shoes, I’d say don’t let it become your downfall. As I said before, succeed despite the odds being stacked against you.

If any of you have questions or want clarification, you can reply or dm me. I’d be happy to have a chat if any of you would like. Thanks again for your time, and remember, you matter.
 

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