[ROIDERS GTFIH] Blackpill me on why I shouldn't go on roids at 16

[Deleted member 5818]

16 y/o (17 in 1 month)

6'2 146 pounds (12/13% bf) very little muscle mass twink

Been working out from home for the last 3 months, put on like 4/5 pounds of muscle

Very little body hair, definitely a late bloomer or just weak puberty if that's a thing idk

I am also currently on 5IU of HGH a day

Probably low T (never get morning wood)

What I want :

Dimorphism​

More Muscle Mass​

Frame Growth​

I want to still be able to have kids​

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So far my 15 week cycle would look like:

500mg Test E every week​

5IU HGH​

Aromasin (idk about dosage yet)​

1000IU of HCG every week​

Novaldex for PCT​

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[Lux]

Because you could fuck up your endocrine system for life

 

[Deleted member 5818]

you should ask @looxmakser49 he's pretty experienced

i've been talking to him a lot about it, but I just need to mentally convince myself I'm not gonna completely perma fuck my endocrine system or other stuff, just wanted third party opinions tbh

 

[Deleted member 5818]

Because you could fuck up your endocrine system for life

I've got a good PCT though?

 

[Deleted member 2748]

wish i could help but i'm experienced at all, sry

 

[Deleted member 5818]

wish i could help but i'm experienced at all, sry

dw ty for the bumps anyway

 

[Lux]

I've got a good PCT though?

I was under the impression pct only stops estrogenic side effects. As a teenager, you could fuck up your natural T production.

 

[Deleted member 4054]

I juiced from 21ish to 30 (initially cycling then blast/cruise), and if I had to do it all again I'd probably have started even earlier but done light oral cycles instead of meme test based cycles

 

[Deleted member 5818]

I was under the impression pct only stops estrogenic side effects. As a teenager, you could fuck up your natural T production.

PCT is for restoring the body's ability to produce hormones on it's own again IIRC

I could fuck it up, but if I'm naturally low T anyway idk if it make's much of a difference

I should probably do a blood test

 

[Deleted member 5818]

I juiced from 21ish to 30 (initially cycling then blast/cruise), and if I had to do it all again I'd probably have started even earlier but done light oral cycles instead of meme test based cycles

I want the test base to try and get more facial dimorphism

also, how much earlier? 17/18 early?

 

[NothingCanStopMe]

I juiced from 21ish to 30 (initially cycling then blast/cruise), and if I had to do it all again I'd probably have started even earlier but done light oral cycles instead of meme test based cycles

Aren't test cycles ideal? I'll be 21 soon and want to start.

 

[nvck_pilled]

PCT is for restoring the body's ability to produce hormones on it's own again IIRC

I could fuck it up, but if I'm naturally low T anyway idk if it make's much of a difference

I should probably do a blood test

500mg of test is a BLAST, you shouldn;t go from your low test natural to that superphysological overkill then when ur off your natural test is worse than before

 

[Deleted member 5818]

500mg of test is a BLAST, you shouldn;t go from your low test natural to that superphysological overkill then when ur off your natural test is worse than before

side effects from the 300mg jump to 500mg are neglible


if i already have low T, surely a little lower is not a problem obviously not ideal but it's shit in the first place

 

[nvck_pilled]

side effects from 300-500mg are neglible


if i already have low T, surely a little lower is not a problem really, obviously not ideal but it's shit in the first place

you're wasting high dosage cycles if you start at half a gram
you'd gain 90% of the muscle on 250 and it won't be a rollercoaster

 

[Deleted member 4054]

Aren't test cycles ideal? I'll be 21 soon and want to start.

It depends what your goals are. It's ideal if you want to be a bodybuilder or plan on staying on long term (test is great for size, and mood/libido will take a hit after a while without test). But if you're doing it purely for aesthetics and plan on cycling off, most people would be better off doing short cycles of compounds that don't aromatize. You'll look better while on, and likely have an easier time coming off

 

[Lev Peshkov]

I know both sides of the argument but mainly

Shutdown (probably won't happen but look out for it)

Organ damage (again roeventabke but still a likely hood)

 

[forwardgrowth]

It depends what your goals are. It's ideal if you want to be a bodybuilder or plan on staying on long term (test is great for size, and mood/libido will take a hit after a while without test). But if you're doing it purely for aesthetics and plan on cycling off, most people would be better off doing short cycles of compounds that don't aromatize. You'll look better while on, and likely have an easier time coming off

Are you on trt now? What benefits did you see starting at 21 as well?

 

[Deleted member 5818]

you're wasting high dosage cycles if you start at half a gram
you'd gain 90% of the muscle on 250 and it won't be a rollercoaster

there is a massive jump from 250 to 500

when you say rollercoaster do you mean emotionally?

 

[Deleted member 5818]

I know both sides of the argument but mainly

Shutdown (probably won't happen but look out for it)

Organ damage (again roeventabke but still a likely hood)

if it does happen what do I do? just go to the doctors and try to get on TRT?

 

[Bitch]

Bro, I really hate the fact that you're low T and fucking 6'2, meanwhile I am high T, have a deep voice, look much older than I actually am, fuck load of body hair, I have to shave my beard at least three times a week, I get erections almost every fucking morning, I am like a fucking animal, no really. I'm 16 too and I'm 5'10 in the morning, then probably like 5'9 in the evening, because I'm barely 5'10. I don't get this whole thing, all the guys that are tall that I know, like some dude is 6'3, also 16 yo and he has a high pitched voice and never had any hair growing out of his body at all, no moustache and similar shit. He probably has a small dick too, because once he saw some average sized dick through some dude's underwear while changing and he nicknamed him "big dick", but not in front of him of course. He's low T as fuck also afraid of everyone and shit, even though he heightmogs so hard.

 

[nvck_pilled]

there is a massive jump from 250 to 500

when you say rollercoaster do you mean emotionally?

yes you're going from pewee herman to superman then back as a literal child
you should only push doses when you need it to progress

 

[Deleted member 4054]

Are you on trt now?

No, I've been off for a couple years

Benefits were it helped me slay when my body was on point. If you mean positive permanent physical changes I don't think there were any

 

[Deleted member 5818]

Bro, I really hate the fact that you're low T and fucking 6'2, meanwhile I am high T, have a deep voice, look much older than I actually am, fuck load of body hair, I have to shave my beard at least three times a week, I get erections almost every fucking morning, I am like a fucking animal, no really. I'm 16 too and I'm 5'10 in the morning, then probably like 5'9 in the evening, because I'm barely 5'10. I don't get this whole thing, all the guys that are tall that I know, like some dude is 6'3, also 16 yo and he has a high pitched voice and never had any hair growing out of his body at all, no moustache and similar shit. He probably has a small dick too, because once he saw some average sized dick through some dude's underwear while changing and he nicknamed him "big dick", but not in front of him of course. He's low T as fuck also afraid of everyone and shit, even though he heightmogs so hard.

My voice is pretty deep

dick is 6.5 inches x 5 inches prob 7 inches when my viagra arrives

I am also low inhib

still feel low T tho

 

[Bitch]

My voice is pretty deep

dick is 6.5 inches x 5 inches prob 7 inches when my viagra arrives

I am also low inhib

still feel low T tho

Being tall gets you laid more than being high T, trust me. Girls will automatically think you have a big dick.

 

[forwardgrowth]

If I was in your shoes I would freeze sperm for kidmaxing, I would do a cycle at 500mg monitoring estrogen the whole time then cruise at 150mg till I was 21 then 100mg for life. Utilizing GH and growth inducing peptides till 21

 

[Deleted member 6873]

It depends what your goals are. It's ideal if you want to be a bodybuilder or plan on staying on long term (test is great for size, and mood/libido will take a hit after a while without test). But if you're doing it purely for aesthetics and plan on cycling off, most people would be better off doing short cycles of compounds that don't aromatize. You'll look better while on, and likely have an easier time coming off

So an oral like var?

 

[nvck_pilled]

are you gonna pin only once a week?

 

[Deleted member 5818]

If I was in your shoes I would freeze sperm for kidmaxing, I would do a cycle at 500mg monitoring estrogen the whole time then cruise at 150mg till I was 21 then 100mg for life. Utilizing GH and growth inducing peptides till 21

is there a difference between TRT and what you suggested?

 

[Deleted member 5818]

are you gonna pin only once a week?

250 mg every 3.5 days - Monday morning and Thursday afternoon

 

[forwardgrowth]

is there a difference between TRT and what you suggested?

No, just takes in mind kid consideration

 

[Deleted member 4054]

So an oral like var?

That's a good option. I did a couple of var cycles, even did a pharm grade upsher smith var only cycle, and it was arguably the best I ever looked. Also did a masteron propionate only cycle, and I looked and felt great on that too.

 

[Deleted member 5818]

No, just takes in mind kid consideration

if I just did my one cycle without a cruise, HCG SHOULD be good enough right for being able to have kids?

 

[forwardgrowth]

No, I've been off for a couple years

Benefits were it helped me slay when my body was on point. If you mean positive permanent physical changes I don't think there were any

Thanks. Mental benefits? How did your skin hold up

 

[forwardgrowth]

if I just did my one cycle without a cruise, HCG SHOULD be good enough right for being able to have kids?

Yeah, I think one cycle won't cause severe sperm damage. if your really worried you could freeze sperm, I would. Do a 16 week cycle at 500mg if so I would recommend. IM daily injecting rotating injection sites. I would also taper up your dosage from 200 to 500mg over the cycle, first two weeks 200, wait two weeks then 300, building up to 500 for the rest. You never know you could be allergic to what the compound is mixed with.

I would also through in Proviron to skyrocket your free T

 

[Deleted member 4054]

Thanks. Mental benefits? How did your skin hold up

I didn't notice much difference mentally, other than winstrol and primobolan seemingly making me more prone to fly off the handle. My skin looked phenomenal on lower dosed cycles especially without test, and took a hit when I ran higher doses. I also held a lot of water with test even at low doses with an AI, your mileage may vary.

 

[Deleted member 5393]

U will lose all gains on pct

 

[Deleted member 5818]

Yeah, I think one cycle won't cause severe sperm damage. if your really worried you could freeze sperm, I would. Do a 16 week cycle at 500mg if so I would recommend. IM daily injecting rotating injection sites. I would also taper up your dosage from 200 to 500mg over the cycle, first two weeks 200, wait two weeks then 300, building up to 500 for the rest. You never know you could be allergic to what the compound is mixed with.

thanks for the high effort replies bro

I'll consider that rotation thing

 

[Deleted member 6789]

Tiny balls
Health problems with prolonged use
You dont need to look like a walking cloud to get laid

 

[Deleted member 5818]

U will lose all gains on pct

elab?

 

[Deleted member 5818]

Tiny balls
Health problems with prolonged use
You dont need to look like a walking cloud to get laid

hcg for big balls

i already get laid

i dont wanna live to the age im pissing in a bag, 50 would be a good time for me to go in my eyes atm

I want roids so I have more of a masculine presence and so people know I can fuck them up

 

[forwardgrowth]

Tiny balls
Health problems with prolonged use
You dont need to look like a walking cloud to get laid

What if you have terrible BB genes, no presence exist at 160lbs
roids save lives period

 

[Deleted member 6789]

What if you have terrible BB genes, no presence exist at 160lbs
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Are you trying to be a professional bodybuilder or just impress women?
Women dont know shit you can just have abs and nice arms and theyll think you look good
As long as you dont have small bird frame youre good

 

[Deleted member 5818]

oh yeh bideltoid is 18.5 to 19 inches ish

 

[forwardgrowth]

[/QUOTE]
Are you trying to be a professional bodybuilder or just impress women?
Women dont know shit you can just have abs and nice arms and theyll think you look good
As long as you dont have small bird frame youre good

I have dogshit frame, its trt or spend 30k on clavicle widening with great risk

just have low masculinity for life bro! you can't have bodily dimorphism at sub 170lbs

 

[Deleted member 6789]

Are you trying to be a professional bodybuilder or just impress women?
Women dont know shit you can just have abs and nice arms and theyll think you look good
As long as you dont have small bird frame youre good

I have dogshit frame, its trt or spend 30k on clavicle widening with great risk
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You dont need top1% frame unless youre trying to get with a mega turbo stacy
You should weigh out the risks with the results
I dont think anyone needs to take roids to get girl, but if you just want that beastly look go for it

 

[Deleted member 6789]

Are you trying to be a professional bodybuilder or just impress women?
Women dont know shit you can just have abs and nice arms and theyll think you look good
As long as you dont have small bird frame youre good

I have dogshit frame, its trt or spend 30k on clavicle widening with great risk

just have low masculinity for life bro! you can't have bodily dimorphism at sub 170lbs
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I dont get the weight thing look at ufc fighters at 160 pounds they look shredded and high T
You dont need to look like a obeese ogre just cus you think it looks good doesnt mean every girl will

 

[forwardgrowth]

Are you trying to be a professional bodybuilder or just impress women?
Women dont know shit you can just have abs and nice arms and theyll think you look good
As long as you dont have small bird frame youre good

I have dogshit frame, its trt or spend 30k on clavicle widening with great risk

My bad for fucking up the quote system, my god. Can you even have a frame at 160lbs? I look like a twink especially as you get older. low prenatal people have limited option

 

[poloralf]

Join the football team they'll give you roids

 

[Deleted member 6789]

hcg for big balls

i already get laid

i dont wanna live to the age im pissing in a bag, 50 would be a good time for me to go in my eyes atm

I want roids so I have more of a masculine presence and so people know I can fuck them up

Cope most pro bodybuilders cant fight for shit

Youll die at around 40-50 witch is really young by then hopfully youll have a more mature view on life

If you wana fuck people up learn jujitsu guys that are lean and have functional muscle training are much more masculine than a walking ballon animal that needs to be pumped with drugs to feel like a man

 

[sytyl]

natty gym until you're 22

then and only then, if you are not satisfied with your physique, consider roids