[ROIDERS GTFIH] Blackpill me on why I shouldn't go on roids at 16

[Blackout.xl]

natty gym until you're 22

then and only then, if you are not satisfied with your physique, consider roids

U don’t mean that

 

[sytyl]

U don’t mean that

ofc not, I actively work to reduce competition

jfl at anyone taking my advice on here

 

[Deleted member 5818]

Cope most pro bodybuilders cant fight for shit

Youll die at around 40-50 witch is really young by then hopfully youll have a more mature view on life

If you wana fuck people up learn jujitsu guys that are lean and have functional muscle training are much more masculine than a walking ballon animal that needs to be pumped with drugs to feel like a man

I just wanna look like I can fuck people up, and fill out my frame and height with muscle

one cycle won't make me die at 40-50

 

[Deleted member 5393]

elab?

U will lose all the gains when u stop the cycle so its pointless

 

[Blackout.xl]

I just wanna look like I can fuck people up, and fill out my frame and height with muscle

one cycle won't make me die at 40-50

Don’t listen to him. Everyone should do at least one cycle. It’s only severe roid abuse that kills you at 40-50

 

[Deleted member 6789]

I just wanna look like I can fuck people up, and fill out my frame and height with muscle

one cycle won't make me die at 40-50

Have you tried optimal training and diet
Building those habbits will help prior to cycle
Its good to build a base and train naturally before cycle, thats what most roid heads on youtube say

 

[Blackout.xl]

U will lose all the gains when u stop the cycle so its pointless

That’s cope you’ll keep most of it if u keep training

 

[Deleted member 5393]

That’s cope you’ll keep most of it if u keep training

Nah i stopped roids for 2 months and lost so much

 

[Blackout.xl]

Nah i stopped roids for 2 months and lost so much

Brutal

u kept training and still lost?

 

[Deleted member 5393]

Brutal

u kept training and still lost?

Yes.

when u stop roids u will have zero T, Your body will be like a eunuch for weeks

 

[Deleted member 5818]

Nah i stopped roids for 2 months and lost so much

I won't lose my progress if I don't go over my genetic potential, right?

Have you tried optimal training and diet
Building those habbits will help prior to cycle
Its good to build a base and train naturally before cycle, thats what most roid heads on youtube say

The training yes, always get 150g protein, not entirely great diet though

 

[Deleted member 6789]

I won't lose my progress if I don't go over my genetic potential, right?


The training yes, always get 150g protein, not entirely great diet though

150 grams a day? is it mostly from meat sources?

 

[Blackout.xl]

Yes.

when u stop roids u will have zero T, Your body will be like a eunuch for weeks

Good PCT can alleviate this tbh

 

[sytyl]

Yes.

when u stop roids u will have zero T, Your body will be like a eunuch for weeks

Did you stop roids cold turkey? I am not too sure about this stuff but isn't there something you should be injecting/taking for a few weeks after coming off roids to help rebase your natural hormone levels?

 

[Deleted member 5818]

150 grams a day? is it mostly from meat sources?

50g from a shake, have scambled eggs for breakfast most days, normally some processed shit i put in the oven for lunch with like 50g protein and just eat whatever my mum cooks for dinner

 

[Blackout.xl]

Did you stop roids cold turkey? I am not too sure about this stuff but isn't there something you should be injecting/taking for a few weeks after coming off roids to help rebase your natural hormone levels?

It’s HCG I’m pretty sure

 

[Deleted member 6789]

50g from a shake, have scambled eggs for breakfast most days, normally some processed shit i put in the oven for lunch with like 50g protein and just eat whatever my mum cooks for dinner

50 from shake seems alot, powder mostly gets shit out even the high end stuff doesnt absorb well
If youve been doing that with good training and sleep you should be getting good results

 

[Deleted member 5818]

50 from shake seems alot, powder mostly gets shit out even the high end stuff doesnt absorb well
If youve been doing that with good training and sleep you should be getting good results

haven't worked out in a month because I've been working on a construction site during the weekdays and it's quite taxing on my body

however, from the beginning of quarantine I worked out maybe 5 times a week for 2-3 months in a shed doing the best lifts I can with my equipment, 2x 10kg dumbells, 2x 5kg dumbells and a bench and I gained 5 pounds of muscle

when school starts again, I will start going to the gym after school though

also the shake is one scoop of protein powder, milk, oats and a banana I calculated it and it works out to 50g, i try and drink it over an hour time

 

[forwardgrowth]

Cope most pro bodybuilders cant fight for shit

Youll die at around 40-50 witch is really young by then hopfully youll have a more mature view on life

If you wana fuck people up learn jujitsu guys that are lean and have functional muscle training are much more masculine than a walking ballon animal that needs to be pumped with drugs to feel like a man

Being 200-210 lbs with abs isn't a massive halo? Looking like Steve Cook for example. irl size+ lean. Most incels and normies alike can't afford to not be physique maxed imo. Getting there natty for most people is not possible

 

[Deleted member 6789]

Being 200-210 lbs with abs isn't a massive halo? Looking like Steve Cook for example. irl size+ lean. Most incels and normies alike can't afford to not be physique maxed imo. Getting there natty for most people is not possible

you think he looks like that all the time? those fools cut weight and get skin tight dehydrated for photoshoots and have a pump going

 

[forwardgrowth]

you think he looks like that all the time? those fools cut weight and get skin tight dehydrated for photoshoots and have a pump going

Thats true, I just wouldn't discourage members from using trt or cycling correctly

 

[UglyGod360]

Thinkin about doing the same thing wanna do it at the same time?

 

[TITUS]

I juiced from 21ish to 30 (initially cycling then blast/cruise), and if I had to do it all again I'd probably have started even earlier but done light oral cycles instead of meme test based cycles

Is there something that boosts you but wont give you almost any sides at all? Like just leaning faster, and stuff like that.

 

[Deleted member 5818]

Is there something that boosts you but wont give you almost any sides at all? Like just leaning faster, and stuff like that.

You could take cardarine for leaning, idk about the sides tho

 

[Deleted member 7076]

how do people not get morning woods everyday

my shit is titanium in the morning since i was 10 years old

 

[Deleted member 4054]

Is there something that boosts you but wont give you almost any sides at all? Like just leaning faster, and stuff like that.

I would say a low dose of an oral like var or winny is great for dieting, since you will lean out faster as a byproduct of increased protein synthesis and not losing muscle while dieting. But there are still some sides, and unless you buy pharmaceutical grade products which is near impossible you can't be certain of what you're taking, especially right now with all the supply chain chaos. Same problem with sarms, who knows what's really in the bottle

 

[SteveRogers]

PCT is for restoring the body's ability to produce hormones on it's own again IIRC

I could fuck it up, but if I'm naturally low T anyway idk if it make's much of a difference

I should probably do a blood test

Get bloods, if you're low T or even lower average T, go it. I can't even explain how good it would be for your dimorphism, your height base is insane, if my clavicles grew from SARMs at 19, imagine legit test at 17.

 

[Deleted member 5818]

how do people not get morning woods everyday

my shit is titanium in the morning since i was 10 years old

Not necessarily low T there are other reasons

Get bloods, if you're low T or even lower average T, go it. I can't even explain how good it would be for your dimorphism, your height base is insane, if my clavicles grew from SARMs at 19, imagine legit test at 17.

Mirin bro, definitely gonna get my blood done

 

[TITUS]

I would say a low dose of an oral like var or winny is great for dieting, since you will lean out faster as a byproduct of increased protein synthesis and not losing muscle while dieting. But there are still some sides, and unless you buy pharmaceutical grade products which is near impossible you can't be certain of what you're taking, especially right now with all the supply chain chaos. Same problem with sarms, who knows what's really in the bottle

Can't you buy pharma grade anavar legally in the UK?

 

[Deleted member 7076]

Not necessarily low T there are other reasons

Mirin bro, definitely gonna get my blood done

mirin tho, i wish it wasn't like this
i have to pee with it like that every morning
not fun

 

[kej3094]

No, just takes in mind kid consideration

Hmm so taking steroids makes you infertile? and on freezing sperm I always felt like the kid would be an absolute abomination if left in a freezer for that long but that’s obviously just paranoia

 

[forwardgrowth]

Hmm so taking steroids makes you infertile? and on freezing sperm I always felt like the kid would be an absolute abomination if left in a freezer for that long but that’s obviously just paranoia

You can reproduce on anabolics but your damaged sperm will make it that children suffer in the looks and health department I learned recently, lots of roiders only have daughters. I worry about freezing and IVF too

 

[Deleted member 3990]

Potentially best heightmaxxing hope if you have grips on Estrogen level

 

[Deleted member 5818]

Just purchased a test to get my bloodwork done, time will tell whether i'm really low T

 

[Deleted member 6892]

Did you grow from HGH?

16 y/o (17 in 1 month)

6'2 146 pounds (12/13% bf) very little muscle mass twink

Been working out from home for the last 3 months, put on like 4/5 pounds of muscle

Very little body hair, definitely a late bloomer or just weak puberty if that's a thing idk

I am also currently on 5IU of HGH a day

Probably low T (never get morning wood)

What I want :

Dimorphism​

More Muscle Mass​

Frame Growth​

I want to still be able to have kids​

​

So far my 15 week cycle would look like:

500mg Test E every week​

5IU HGH​

Aromasin (idk about dosage yet)​

1000IU of HCG every week​

Novaldex for PCT​

​

 

[Deleted member 5818]

Did you grow from HGH?

started this week idk yet

 

[Deleted member 6892]

You getting it from alibaba or some other source?

started this week idk yet

 

[Deleted member 5818]

You getting it from alibaba or some other source?

yeh alibaba fresh batch of chinese piss

 

[Bigfatpersonboy]

500mg of test is a BLAST, you shouldn;t go from your low test natural to that superphysological overkill then when ur off your natural test is worse than before

what would you consider low t?

 

[Loud_Jock]

16 y/o (17 in 1 month)

6'2 146 pounds (12/13% bf) very little muscle mass twink

Been working out from home for the last 3 months, put on like 4/5 pounds of muscle

Very little body hair, definitely a late bloomer or just weak puberty if that's a thing idk

I am also currently on 5IU of HGH a day

Probably low T (never get morning wood)

What I want :

Dimorphism​

More Muscle Mass​

Frame Growth​

I want to still be able to have kids​

​

So far my 15 week cycle would look like:

500mg Test E every week​

5IU HGH​

Aromasin (idk about dosage yet)​

1000IU of HCG every week​

Novaldex for PCT​

​

Your stack looks good. Should be some sick gains with the hgh.

Force feed yourself btw during the cycle.

 

[sasha777]

fuck that, you wan't to fry your system, regardless of your PCT you'll be damaged for life. Max out ur natty status then hop on and do alot more research on cycle, watch moreplatesmoredates vids, and go the roid forums. at 24 yo i'll be cycling soon but u way to young, you have like 0 base. staysafe tho it's up to you what you do but i wouldn't until max out natty limit

 

[Deleted member 5818]

fuck that, you wan't to fry your system, regardless of your PCT you'll be damaged for life. Max out ur natty status then hop on and do alot more research on cycle, watch moreplatesmoredates vids, and go the roid forums. at 24 yo i'll be cycling soon but u way to young, you have like 0 base. staysafe tho it's up to you what you do but i wouldn't until max out natty limit

Already bought the roids and injected yesterday man, I’m cruising for the rest of my life boyyyo

 

[sasha777]

Already bought the roids and injected yesterday man, I’m cruising for the rest of my life boyyyo

fuark, if only I had joined earlier. well gl, TRT for life now

 

[Deleted member 5818]

fuark, if only I had joined earlier. well gl, TRT for life now

Nah idm cruising for the rest of my life tbh, I got my bloods back and I was a 500 ng/dl cuck and I don’t want to live like that for the rest of my life

 

[sasha777]

Nah idm cruising for the rest of my life tbh, I got my bloods back and I was a 500 ng/dl cuck and I don’t want to live like that for the rest of my life

hahah, avg range it isn't bad. Test would've peaked soon ngl, since ur quite young but now it'll be peaking earlier xd

 

[Deleted member 5818]

hahah, avg range it isn't bad. Test would've peaked soon ngl, since ur quite young but now it'll be peaking earlier xd

Also you gotta remember, the endocrine system is absolute shit, it can vary through out the day, at times I might be 300ng/dl or other time 700ng/dl

Where as now I’m going to be at a stable high

 

[ThreadMatters]

Bro, I really hate the fact that you're low T and fucking 6'2, meanwhile I am high T, have a deep voice, look much older than I actually am, fuck load of body hair, I have to shave my beard at least three times a week, I get erections almost every fucking morning, I am like a fucking animal, no really. I'm 16 too and I'm 5'10 in the morning, then probably like 5'9 in the evening, because I'm barely 5'10. I don't get this whole thing, all the guys that are tall that I know, like some dude is 6'3, also 16 yo and he has a high pitched voice and never had any hair growing out of his body at all, no moustache and similar shit. He probably has a small dick too, because once he saw some average sized dick through some dude's underwear while changing and he nicknamed him "big dick", but not in front of him of course. He's low T as fuck also afraid of everyone and shit, even though he heightmogs so hard.

''manlet rage''

 

[Loud_Jock]

fuark, if only I had joined earlier. well gl, TRT for life now

ROFL he is not going to "fry" his endocrine system with one mild test cycle. He is 99% going to bounce back to normal low levels after PCT.

 

[Loud_Jock]

fuck that, you wan't to fry your system, regardless of your PCT you'll be damaged for life. Max out ur natty status then hop on and do alot more research on cycle, watch moreplatesmoredates vids, and go the roid forums. at 24 yo i'll be cycling soon but u way to young, you have like 0 base. staysafe tho it's up to you what you do but i wouldn't until max out natty limit

What makes you say that? What scientific evidence do you base this statement on?

 

[sasha777]

What makes you say that? What scientific evidence do you base this statement on?

honestly was just exaggerating just rather him get natty gains for acouple of years before blasting nooby gains are top tier. the dude will be fine with a good PCT fr fr