Roiding at 17

[ChadsAreCool]

150-200 test
6.25 aromasin ED or EOD
500 iu hcg E3D
Ipamorelin 200 mcg day
Maybe some generic gh in the future

thoughts?

 

[Deleted member 15384]

 

[ChadsAreCool]

Also some Anavar 1 month off 2-3 off

 

[Deleted member 15384]

 

[TeenAscender]

150-200 test
6.25 aromasin ED or EOD
500 iu hcg E3D
Ipamorelin 200 mcg day
Maybe some generic gh in the future

thoughts?

go higher on the asin if you are on test (atleast 12.5 ed) especially if you dont wanna stunt ur growth in case u care about that

 

[TeenAscender]

also if u dont pair ipamorelin with a ghrh it would be more effective to hop on mk677 for hgh and igf 1

150-200 test
6.25 aromasin ED or EOD
500 iu hcg E3D
Ipamorelin 200 mcg day
Maybe some generic gh in the future

thoughts?

 

[Deleted member 15698]

Gear at your age is a gamble. No matter how much your cycle makes sense on paper, no one knows how it'll play out. I took gear at 17 and a lot of my friends did too. Some of them got completely fucked. It paid off for me

 

[ChadsAreCool]

also if u dont pair ipamorelin with a ghrh it would be more effective to hop on mk677 for hgh and igf 1

Gear at your age is a gamble. No matter how much your cycle makes sense on paper, no one knows how it'll play out. I took gear at 17 and a lot of my friends did too. Some of them got completely fucked. It paid off for me

How did it fuck your friends and work out for you? Also what was your first cycle?

 

[Deleted member 6403]

test + pregnenolone is safe as long as you take 10x preg as you do T,

don't quote me on that though,

but it's around that dosage range and you won't be suppressed at all

 

[Deleted member 15698]

How did it fuck your friends and work out for you? Also what was your first cycle?

First cycle was dbol only, second shortly after was test + dbol

It worked for me because I experienced zero sides, and got just about every result you could hope for. My clavicles and wrists grew, my jaw grew, my dick grew, it 10x'd my facial hair, my voice got deeper, and obviously I gained a ton of muscle

It failed for some of my friends because they didn't get any of these benefits other than muscle, but their skin was destroyed, their hair fell out, they got gyno, they wound up with permanent or semi permanent erectile dysfunction, it damaged their mental health

One side I may have gotten is it may have stunted my growth. I was 6'2 so I didn't care much, but I never grew a mm after then. Then again some men do stop growing at 16, so it's impossible to say. Worth it for me, but for someone hoping to grow more it may not be worth it

 

[ChadsAreCool]

First cycle was dbol only, second shortly after was test + dbol

It worked for me because I experienced zero sides, and got just about every result you could hope for. My clavicles and wrists grew, my jaw grew, my dick grew, it 10x'd my facial hair, my voice got deeper, and obviously I gained a ton of muscle

It failed for some of my friends because they didn't get any of these benefits other than muscle, but their skin was destroyed, their hair fell out, they got gyno, they wound up with permanent or semi permanent erectile dysfunction, it damaged their mental health

One side I may have gotten is it may have stunted my growth. I was 6'2 so I didn't care much, but I never grew a mm after then. Then again some men do stop growing at 16, so it's impossible to say. Worth it for me, but for someone hoping to grow more it may not be worth it

What causes acne breakdown from using steroids? Elevated estrogen? Or androgens

 

[Deleted member 15698]

What causes acne breakdown from using steroids? Elevated estrogen? Or androgens

Elevated and unstable androgen levels. If you are prone to this side, there's no guaranteed way to avoid it. Dbol and deca are more skin and hair safe than test, but I would never suggest deca to someone in puberty

Elevated estrogen is actually good for your skin

 

[ChadsAreCool]

Elevated and unstable androgen levels. If you are prone to this side, there's no guaranteed way to avoid it. Dbol and deca are more skin and hair safe than test, but I would never suggest deca to someone in puberty

Elevated estrogen is actually good for your skin

How would you know natty if you are prone to this?

 

[Deleted member 15698]

How would you know natty if you are prone to this?

You wouldn't, and that's why I said it's a gamble. At 17, you don't even know if you're balding prone unless it's an extreme case. But if you are, by the time you find out on cycle you've damaged so, so many follicles

It's just a leap of faith dude. It could work extremely well for you, or you could be wanting to rope and crying wishing you could take it back

 

[ChadsAreCool]

You wouldn't, and that's why I said it's a gamble. At 17, you don't even know if you're balding prone unless it's an extreme case. But if you are, by the time you find out on cycle you've damaged so, so many follicles

It's just a leap of faith dude. It could work extremely well for you, or you could be wanting to rope and crying wishing you could take it back

Before using test. Could I run a hcg cycle with Anavar to see if I am? Hcg is easy to recover from

 

[Deleted member 15698]

Before using test. Could I run a hcg cycle with Anavar to see if I am? Hcg is easy to recover from

No, they're literally different things and have different mechanisms of action

 

[ChadsAreCool]

You wouldn't, and that's why I said it's a gamble. At 17, you don't even know if you're balding prone unless it's an extreme case. But if you are, by the time you find out on cycle you've damaged so, so many follicles

It's just a leap of faith dude. It could work extremely well for you, or you could be wanting to rope and crying wishing you could take

 

[Deleted member 15698]

Before using test. Could I run a hcg cycle

You could yes. However, you would gain nothing from it and it also wouldn't give you any useful information

 

[TITUS]

HCG will spike your E and you cant use AI against it because it does it directly in your testes or something like that.
Anavar will shut your T down so you would be retarded using it on its own.
By the looks of it you should just complete your puberty normally doing a lot of sports and lifting and forget about roids, because you are retarded and will fuck yourself up.
The best option would be using something like 350T and initially crash your E with a lot of AI and do bloods until you have your E in the low range, but you are not going to be doing bloods or anything so you will just stunt your growth and become subhuman.

 

[TITUS]

First cycle was dbol only, second shortly after was test + dbol

It worked for me because I experienced zero sides, and got just about every result you could hope for. My clavicles and wrists grew, my jaw grew, my dick grew, it 10x'd my facial hair, my voice got deeper, and obviously I gained a ton of muscle

It failed for some of my friends because they didn't get any of these benefits other than muscle, but their skin was destroyed, their hair fell out, they got gyno, they wound up with permanent or semi permanent erectile dysfunction, it damaged their mental health

One side I may have gotten is it may have stunted my growth. I was 6'2 so I didn't care much, but I never grew a mm after then. Then again some men do stop growing at 16, so it's impossible to say. Worth it for me, but for someone hoping to grow more it may not be worth it

The problem is most people get more hair, wider clavicles, and whatnot, when they are in puberty and training hard, so you never know what you got out of it really.

 

[ChadsAreCool]

HCG will spike your E and you cant use AI against it because it does it directly in your testes or something like that.
Anavar will shut your T down so you would be retarded using it on its own.
By the looks of it you should just complete your puberty normally doing a lot of sports and lifting and forget about roids, because you are retarded and will fuck yourself up.
The best option would be using something like 350T and initially crash your E with a lot of AI and do bloods until you have your E in the low range, but you are not going to be doing bloods or anything so you will just stunt your growth and become subhuman.

Thanks for the advice. But how about you shut the fuck up dumbass nigga assuming what I can or won’t do. The fuck you mean AI won’t work against elevated E from hcg.

 

[TITUS]

Thanks for the advice. But how about you shut the fuck up dumbass nigga assuming what I can or won’t do. The fuck you mean AI won’t work against elevated E from hcg.

I assume because you only type bullshit and that can only come from a retarded mind, and hence you will fuck it up, most likely.

 

[Deleted member 13476]

aromatase inhibitor with 200 test? ...
i highly doubt that it will do much to prevent your plates closing if thats what its for, you're likely done growing anyway
and why only 200mg? with an AI at that dose you'll crash your estrogen
if you're hell bent on using an AI, go up to like 500mg. the only real reason people do lower dose test cycles is to not need an AI

contrary to what the retards on this forum say (muh estrogen, bad testosterone good!11), estrogen is just as important as test as you need it for neuroprotective properties, a functioning cardiovascular system, libido etc
you will feel like absolute shit if you crash it, especially at your age, good luck getting it up
the HCG seems like overkill too, can be useful though
anavar on its own is also a bad idea, stack it with test or it will do pretty much nothing
the ipamorelin on its own won't do shit either, 99.9% of your gains will be from test
if you're still interested in leveraging IGF-1 however, check this shit out
https://moreplatesmoredates.com/replicate-high-dose-pharma-grade-gh/


people here will tell you to do the stupidest fucking shit, dont listen to them
you havent done enough research, get a solid understanding of endocrinology and how this shit affects your body before going anywhere near it, without knowing anything you can't judge the good information from the bad

r/steroids wiki is probably your best bet atm before you fuck yourself up

i wanted to start earlier but waited until 19, no regrets
good look bro

p.s. get ur fucking bloodwork pre cycle

 

[Mouthbreath]

you need more testosterone, 150mg/week is pointless

 

[ChadsAreCool]

OP you need to be way more specific monica.

post a pic of yourself in a full body mirror shirtless and in normal clothes with your face included. i wouldn’t roid unless your failo is being ‘nerdy’ or lacking dimorphism and muscle mass.

If that is the case, I would personally get an xray of your growth plates and blood tests of your natty hormones.

Then you can proceed with about ~2-350mg/wk of testosterone. id use bare minimum hcg to keep your balls big which varies probably 150ish eod. id start out wifh approximately 15mg/wk of asin which should give you ever so slightly low estrogen in proportion to your test, and you would again need to get bloods to confirm. Crashed estrogen will greatly inhibit any muscle you could gain. We would errrr in the side of lower estrogen as even though you probably aren’t growing vertically you don’t want to accelerate to a non-negligible extent any later growth plates from fusing (ie clavicles),

aside from growth plates, acne, bloat, and hair loss will be your main concerns.

acne and hair loss is too personal dependent but if ur prone to acne anything besides accutane is cope in preventing the mechanism of onset

bloat is very complicated… ARBs may reduce aldosterone which would help… I like telmisartan

HCTZ is a relatively safe diuretic i would avoid using consistently though but if its an emergency…

diet is the easiezt factor to control. not gonna go into detail because if you don’t know what foods trigger water retention im not spoon feeding common knowledge

Just worried about acne

 

[Deleted member 32432]

Thanks for the advice. But how about you shut the fuck up dumbass nigga assuming what I can or won’t do. The fuck you mean AI won’t work against elevated E from hcg.

Dead thread but a large amount of aromatization happens in the balls which is which is a very localized part of the body and the ai destroys aromatase enzymes evenly throughout the body. Also there are cells in ur balls that produce estrogen