roiding is hard

[framemaxxed]

theres def a point where roids increase your mental state of wellbeing, and then a huge dropoff where you overdid it or took tren, or eq and now your paranoia is just through the roof and you cant barely relax for shit

O yea fs, like I’m more motivated in general but I’m currently on 300 test 100 tren and the amount of paranoia I’m getting just from my girl being around other boys genuinely freaks me tf out and I just get sudden panic attacks out of nowhere

 

[reyik]

i dont prescribe to the efficacy of natty training. in my opinion natty training does nada and i trained natty for 5 years before roids

That's cute. I've seen guys on gear for half that time who look like they got lost in a walmart parking lot natty gains are real you just sucked at it you probably spent those five years curling 5lbs and eating cheetos, then blamed genetics when you didn't wake up as the Rock

 

[sonic55555]

O yea fs, like I’m more motivated in general but I’m currently on 300 test 100 tren and the amount of paranoia I’m getting just from my girl being around other boys genuinely freaks me tf out and I just get sudden panic attacks out of nowhere

oh yea now i remember why i stopped doing tren. i remember walking around in public and literally being jealous of every single person i saw, even 80 year old people i would grit my teeth and be jealous of them. Tren is such a weird drug, it humbles your ego or something

 

[sonic55555]

That's cute. I've seen guys on gear for half that time who look like they got lost in a walmart parking lot natty gains are real you just sucked at it you probably spent those five years curling 5lbs and eating cheetos, then blamed genetics when you didn't wake up as the Rock

yeah my training or diet wasnt good, but natty training and roiding is still incomparable. and the ceiling for what you can achieve as a natty is very very low compared to enhanced. Too low for my taste, i have greater ambitions

 

[reyik]

yeah my training or diet wasnt good, but natty training and roiding is still incomparable. and the ceiling for what you can achieve as a natty is very very low compared to enhanced. Too low for my taste, i have greater ambitions

If natty cant achieve your ambitions one, thats a good trade off

 

[Bipolar2Cel]

I agree if you want to be big/huge roids are the way to go. I laugh at natty guys that bulk and cut and only get fat for 10+ kg bench press from the fatness. I don't do roids but if I wanted to get big I would hop on roids immediately lol, if you are natty you have to accept you will look nothing like guys on roids or all social media fake natties and stop coping.

 

[Oopity]

being natty and trying to gain muscle is iqlet. roiding might be detrimental to your wellbeing but it gets the job done

Cope

You can have a good physique without roids

 

[sonic55555]

I agree if you want to be big/huge roids are the way to go. I laugh at natty guys that bulk and cut and only get fat for 10+ kg bench press from the fatness. I don't do roids but if I wanted to get big I would hop on roids immediately lol, if you are natty you have to accept you will look nothing like guys on roids or all social media fake natties and stop coping.

Gotta agree with allat, theres really no way around the needle if you want to make it bigg

 

[Bipolar2Cel]

Cope
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You can have a good physique without roids

Good physique yeah but nothing like the fake natties you see on social media that sell you garbage supplements or secret programs/courses that will make you as big as they are "naturally" lol. I just accept I will always be small even compared to newb guy who did roids for 3-6 months as natty, but I aim for a greco-roman physique(well, have one already) so I am OK with it lol. Only way to get big/huge is with roids everything else is cope. Btw if you want to max SMV you should get lean.

 

[Oopity]

Good physique yeah but nothing like the fake natties you see on social media that sell you garbage supplements or secret programs/courses that will make you as big as they are "naturally" lol. I just accept I will always be small even compared to newb guy who did roids for 3-6 months as natty, but I aim for a greco-roman physique(well, have one already) so I am OK with it lol. Only way to get big/huge is with roids everything else is cope. Btw if you want to max SMV you should get lean.

Ik I'm cutting I'll get there I'm a little big rn

I think max appeal is just being a lean natty lifter for a few years honestly, unless the girl has a niche fetish for muscles. Steroid physiques are male gazed and imo the sides aren't worth it

 

[sonic55555]

Ik I'm cutting I'll get there I'm a little big rn

I think max appeal is just being a lean natty lifter for a few years honestly, unless the girl has a niche fetish for muscles. Steroid physiques are male gazed and imo the sides aren't worth it

the sides are brutal but dont underestimate how many females are into the big roided look

 

[Krivi.]

always tired. always getting hot flashes, overheating, sweating
More anxiety, paranoia from androgen receptor activation, more fight and flight

nattycucks are such pussies, they could never handle this

The worst part has to be aniexty and insomnia fr

 

[sonic55555]

The worst part has to be aniexty and insomnia fr

I agree, and trensomnia is pretty brootal
have you done tren?

 

[SoundnVision]

Not worth sticking needles in your leg for pussy

 

[sonic55555]

Not worth sticking needles in your leg for pussy

It can be worth it, maybe not for everyone tho

 

[SoundnVision]

It can be worth it

Not in my experience

 

[sonic55555]

Not in my experience

Well thats fair

 

[SoundnVision]

You get to pump and dump more women around your looksrange which in the end leads to nothing and dosnt make your life more enjoyable.
That's not going into all the mental side effects roids give you

 

[sonic55555]

You get to pump and dump more women around your looksrange which in the end leads to nothing and dosnt make your life more enjoyable.
That's not going into all the mental side effects roids give you

I could think of worse things

 

[SoundnVision]

I could think of worse things

Actually it didn't really give me anything.

All the times I've been approached IRL I've been natty

 

[sonic55555]

Actually it didn't really give me anything.

All the times I've been approached IRL I've been natty

All the times I've been approached IRL I've been natty

same here, but they still like me better when roided, im just more intimidating and unapproachable now

 

[Krivi.]

I agree, and trensomnia is pretty brootal
have you done tren?

Nopee i am considering. Is it really that bad?

 

[sonic55555]

Nopee i am considering. Is it really that bad?

i think most will say yes. Im not doing tren again thats for sure, fuck dat