Roids advice needed for 2nd cycle GTFIH roidcels

[KaisenMaxxer]

First cycle I was in a very bad spot mentally and barely made any muscle gains smth like +5kg of lean mass in 15 weeks (but Im quite sure my face improved thanks to it)
Only side effect I had was acne, back and face, but I wasnt on isotret and a bit of skin redness
I dont care about health and longevity, but Id like to remain fertile and avoid acne
Also my hair is short rn so no slaying untill 2 to 3 months at least
Im planning to start in september with 500 test e and cruise untill I next summer
The plan is for me to go from my current 14%bf to as lean as possible natty before I start the cycle then maintain my body comp with a surplus, and if I get too fat to do a minicut.
Current stats : 6ft, 165lbs, 13-14%bf (was 12% a month ago)
Also I dont and dont plan to train legs much, just enough to avoid chicken legs, but it is kind of a genetic strong point so I dont want them too big
Goal by september is to get 10%bf, I dont care if I lose muscle, Ill build it back fast with roids
Goal for next summer: 6ft, 185-200, 10-12%bf with perfect skin (not red, no acne)
I am excluding tren and hgh (im 20 anyway)
I have money and probably will take mt2 and topical minox for brows, hair density (already good but not enough) and goatee/stache

Do you think this transformation is possible ?
A 9 or 10 months blast seems stupid, I should I blast, cruise and blast, or completely come off between cycles ?
What roids should I consider to avoid skin sides but still gain 15kg of lean mass in this time frame ?

And mostly, is this muscle mass useful at all to get girls as a MTN face with acne, that would be HTN without acne and with better brows (few months ascension ez) or the roids are risking too much for my youth indictord and skin ?

 

[KaisenMaxxer]

Bump
Help me nigtards

 

[bloodymanor]

What roids should I consider to avoid skin sides

low dose accutine?
test+var(or primo)

 

[Wog]

try SARMs instead, way less side effects than steroids.

Ostarine is OP

 

[julioo27_]

First cycle I was in a very bad spot mentally and barely made any muscle gains smth like +5kg of lean mass in 15 weeks (but Im quite sure my face improved thanks to it)
Only side effect I had was acne, back and face, but I wasnt on isotret and a bit of skin redness
I dont care about health and longevity, but Id like to remain fertile and avoid acne
Also my hair is short rn so no slaying untill 2 to 3 months at least
Im planning to start in september with 500 test e and cruise untill I next summer
The plan is for me to go from my current 14%bf to as lean as possible natty before I start the cycle then maintain my body comp with a surplus, and if I get too fat to do a minicut.
Current stats : 6ft, 165lbs, 13-14%bf (was 12% a month ago)
Also I dont and dont plan to train legs much, just enough to avoid chicken legs, but it is kind of a genetic strong point so I dont want them too big
Goal by september is to get 10%bf, I dont care if I lose muscle, Ill build it back fast with roids
Goal for next summer: 6ft, 185-200, 10-12%bf with perfect skin (not red, no acne)
I am excluding tren and hgh (im 20 anyway)
I have money and probably will take mt2 and topical minox for brows, hair density (already good but not enough) and goatee/stache

Do you think this transformation is possible ?
A 9 or 10 months blast seems stupid, I should I blast, cruise and blast, or completely come off between cycles ?
What roids should I consider to avoid skin sides but still gain 15kg of lean mass in this time frame ?

And mostly, is this muscle mass useful at all to get girls as a MTN face with acne, that would be HTN without acne and with better brows (few months ascension ez) or the roids are risking too much for my youth indictord and skin ?

whats wrong about being 20 and not wanting to do tren? loox did it around that age iirc

 

[chadisbeingmade]

Losing 3% body fat takes weeks not months.

You need Duta for skin and hair otherwise all of this is a looksmin.

And use GH, no reason not to. Essentially only gain lean mass on a bulk.

5kg actual lean mass in 20 weeks is a regular cycle.

 

[Rando [maxer]]

you wont gain 35lbs in one cycle, if your diet and training is on point even with roids you‘ll probably need 6-8 months depending on your genetics and your current physique. Dont do accutane on cycle, its as liver toxic as some orals, just do Benzoyl peroxide 5% and keep e2 in range. Possible cycle designs you could run:

300test 300NPP 4-6iu HGH
500 test 300-600 Primo 4-6iu HGH

Even tho you said you exclude HGH, you should still run some, you make so much more gains and get only a few sides in comparison to another roid.

 

[KaisenMaxxer]

Losing 3% body fat takes weeks not months.

You need Duta for skin and hair otherwise all of this is a looksmin.

I didnt lose hair on a test, mast and high anadrol cycle, and my family has excellent hair genetics, so should I still got for a dit blocker (I have mid skin collagen tho)?

And use GH, no reason not to. Essentially only gain lean mass on a bulk.

Afraid of acromegaly, might be too expensive

5kg actual lean mass in 20 weeks is a regular cycle.

Thanks for the insight

you wont gain 35lbs in one cycle, if your diet and training is on point even with roids you‘ll probably need 6-8 months depending on your genetics and your current physique.

Yeah I plan 2 blasts over 10 months

Dont do accutane on cycle, its as liver toxic as some orals, just do Benzoyl peroxide 5% and keep e2 in range. Possible cycle designs you could run:

300test 300NPP 4-6iu HGH
500 test 300-600 Primo 4-6iu HGH

Even tho you said you exclude HGH, you should still run some, you make so much more gains and get only a few sides in comparison to another roid.

Ill consider it if not to expensive and if I find a reliable source

whats wrong about being 20 and not wanting to do tren? loox did it around that age iirc

Will fuck my skin up

 

[KaisenMaxxer]

try SARMs instead, way less side effects than steroids.

Ostarine is OP

I think I want results tho

 

[chadisbeingmade]

I didnt lose hair on a test, mast and high anadrol cycle, and my family has excellent hair genetics, so should I still got for a dit blocker (I have mid skin collagen tho)?

Dut isn’t only for your hair. It’s so your elastin doesn’t get absolutely eviscerated. So, yes.

No idea why you decided to run such a worthless compound, mast. Tren is unironically far more worth running. I don’t see a situation where mast or primo should even be in the conversation, especially on a looksmax forum.

Afraid of acromegaly, might be too expensive

acromegaly form GH is an absolute meme if you don’t abuse it. 2.5-7.5IU ED is nowhere near acromegaly dosage.

It’s cheap. Around 0.4$ per IU.

 

[KaisenMaxxer]

No idea why you decided to run such a worthless compound, mast. Tren is unironically far more worth running. I don’t see a situation where mast or primo should even be in the conversation, especially on a looksmax forum.

So should I just run test and hgh or add NPP or something else too ?

 

[chadisbeingmade]

So should I just run test and hgh or add NPP or something else too ?

250mg - 1g Test + GH + Dut is by far the best way to run roids in a looksmax context.