roids are a looksmin

[william.]

keep coping gymcels

 

[repulse]

I was at the gym

wait

u dont know what a clean diet is,

So eating only carnivore (my friend) is not clean?

 

[Hexxon]

not more then you can't get natty within 8 months

nah around a 21/22 ffmi is ideal and that takes years naturally

 

[chadisbeingmade]

If you manage to descend from roids you deserve it for being an uneducated retard.

I have more muscle, I’m leaner, my skin is prefect, my hair hasn’t changed.

I like this thread though, fearmonger them all so I stay ahead.

 

[william.]

You can still use them without any side effects

no you will still age, and u can not. and u will sacrifice health.

, so I see no point in NOT using them

waste of money

, why would you train natty when you can just… not train natty and get good gains with very minimal side effects

minimal looksmin, maybe? tons of health consequences.

Wait till bro hear about ancillaries haha

this is where you failed. You’re looking at ‘roids like it’s black and white, but you need to realize it’s NOT all black and white, you need to start realizing that even if you would use 1 gram of test you won’t look like a body builder and you even have the chance of looking fucking NATTY, those bodybuilders you see have ELITE-tier genetics, are training like maniacs, getting their macros, etc etc. youNeed to realize that even if you are using roids you won’t look become a body builder lol, you can be on 500 mg of testosterone and still looks skinny asf, they body builders you see on the stage are on GRAMS of it, and in that regard I agree that it’s a looksmin, but looking at it as bad and good is wrong, nobody on this forum who has the motive to looksmax his body won’t use grams of gear.

no shit . U said women are attracted to alot of muscle. therefor I pointed out that they are clearly not attracted to bodybuilders.

So eating only carnivore (my friend) is not clean?

depends. there is so much nuance, and its not like diet is everything when it comes to acne.

You look at it as black and white since when you imagine someone who is saying is on gear, you imagining him as a body builder immediately and not as someone who just want to maximize his muscle mass a bit and to looks aesthetic

no i do not.

But you are on a “looksmaxxing” forum, not a bodybuilding forum, you don’t blast grams of gear weekly/daily. Like I already said but I will say it again since your intellectual capacity is limited- don’t exceed over 600 mg of test unless you want to looksmin yourself, 500 mg is the sweat spot.

500 mg, that is just a complete waste of money; again u fuck your health, obviously?. And for no reason.

where is the proof women like copious amounts of muscle?

You won’t look like a body builder when on 500 mg of roids, I will give you an example of someone who is blasting grams of gear since he’s BODYBUILDING and is NOT going for aesthetics and someone who is using between 400-600 mg of test and IS going for aesthetics

no shit.

Bodybuilder (grams of gear + elite genetics)
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disgusting.

Someone who is on reasonable amount of gear (400-600 mg):
View attachment 4174308

he looks fucking shit, thats way to much muscle. Not appealing.

Look how the muscle mass changes:
View attachment 4174309

This looks like shit amount of muscle? If you agree then you’re schizophrenic

.

yeah you obviously dont need ‘roids, but why not use them if you can get good amount of muscle mass from it without many side effects if you’re doing it correctly and smartly, instead of training 10x times harder, 10x times more frequently, you will need to maximize your diet way better as a natty than you would if you were on roids etc etc etc

u can get that naturally, without fucking you aging and health.

I see this as crazy ROI

waste of money.

I’m not saying that EVERYONE will tolerate gear well and I’m not saying that EVERYONE will see great gains,but a fair amount of people WILL see gains and WILL tolerate it well (IF DONE CORRECTLY AND NOT
LIKE A DUMBASS) so… why not try?

already explained.

Worst case scenario you will get some acne and you won’t get as much gains as you thought you would…

Inb4 muh permanent HPTA shutdown LOL, your ballss will be fine btw

not a guarantee.

I won’t say that you 100% won’t, but you surely won’t see anything visible, and you will age SIGNIFICANTLY less when using reasonable dosages of gear

And LOL at the part where you said that you will age more when on dut haha

u will. do u think "scintist" really know how it works? no they dont.

I won’t even ask you to elaborate since you don’t know what the fuck you are talking about JFL.

.

I see no reason for not using dut lol

waste of money​

hahahahahhahaahaah lol @powerliftercoco
@slaters @kazama @aids

.

Imagine being SO retarded and being so ignorant about the topic you hate about that you literally can’t even get the basics of it

keep coping, ugly gymcel.

Please don’t tell me you confused mg (milligrams, the dose of testosterone you inject) with ng/dL (nanograms per deciliter, the serum testosterone level in your blood)

obs not

I prob know more about roids then you

This just shows how ignorant you are about that topic.

not really

Or… OP just have 600 mg of testosterone naturally, just imagine his elites genetics, having 2500-3000 ng/dl naturally, crazy

u said 250 earlier fucking nigger.

How the hell did you infer that from what I replied to you LOLL, how is there no point of taking it if you won’t age much if you’re not exceeding 600 mg in each cycle exactly?

cus u dont need too.

Retarded, your balls WILL come back to producing LH/FSH naturally at month 1-3 (maybe even more for FSH) after stopping your cycle anyway, and that’s why you have HCG and HMG (I won’t be surprised if you don’t know what it is since you’re clueless tbh)

depends.

Validate User

academic.oup.com

This study is not 100% great but it shows that after 3-6 months of steroids use, your LH will come back to work, and for your FSH it will take a little longer

dnr, for now.

It’s not common to become permanently hypogandal from steroid use.

sure

And also that’s why you should use HCG and HMG, it will mimic LH and FSH while still being suppressed

sure

One of the biggest bodybuilders of all time:
View attachment 4174470

can't even walk

View attachment 4174474

ages fucking shit.

tldr; its a waste of money and ages u
ur physique can will be good enough atrually

 

[Deleted member 110192]

no you will still age, and u can not. and u will sacrifice health.

waste of money

minimal looksmin, maybe? tons of health consequences.


no shit . U said women are attracted to alot of muscle. therefor I pointed out that they are clearly not attracted to bodybuilders.

depends. there is so much nuance, and its not like diet is everything when it comes to acne.

no i do not.

500 mg, that is just a complete waste of money; again u fuck your health, obviously?. And for no reason.

where is the proof women like copious amounts of muscle?

no shit.

disgusting.

he looks fucking shit, thats way to much muscle. Not appealing.

.

u can get that naturally, without fucking you aging and health.

waste of money.

already explained.


not a guarantee.

u will. do u think "scintist" really know how it works? no they dont.

.

waste of money​

.

keep coping, ugly gymcel.

obs not

I prob know more about roids then you

not really

u said 250 earlier fucking nigger.

cus u dont need too.

depends.

dnr, for now.

sure

sure

can't even walk

ages fucking shit.

tldr; its a waste of money and ages u
ur physique can will be good enough atrually

You are retarded and I see no point in keeping arguing with you, you bring no worth to the argument and you’re only answering as “yes” “no” etc etc, you know shit about what you talk about and this sentence you said earlier should tell me enough about you:

less then I have naturally

You have no worth in this world, it’s already, DYOR before talking like you know something you CLEARLY don’t understand a molecule about

 

[william.]

You are retarded and I see no point in keeping arguing with you, you bring no worth to the argument and you’re only answering as “yes” “no” etc etc, you know shit about what you talk about and this sentence you said earlier should tell me enough about you

show proof women like copious amounts of muscle

U just said the same thing over and over again

 

[Deleted member 110192]

show proof women like copious amounts of muscle

You clearly didn’t read a molecule of what I replied earlier since I’ve already said MULTIPLE times that it’s not “copious” amounts of muscle

You’re looking it as “black and white” since you’re intellectually challenged

no point in arguing with someone who is clearly not even reading what you have said or in your case don’t understand it because he’s mentally retarded

 

[william.]

You clearly didn’t read a molecule of what I replied earlier since I’ve already said MULTIPLE times that it’s not “copious” amounts of muscle

it is though. The pic u showed had a digusting amounts of muscle.

You’re looking it as “black and white” since you’re intellectually challenged

overall its just a waste of money. It will not help you lose your virginity.

also bearing on your health, which u can not debate against?

no point in arguing with someone who is clearly not even reading what you have said or in your case don’t understand it because he’s mentally retarded

 

[william.]

I have more muscle, I’m leaner, my skin is prefect, my hair hasn’t changed.

could have just done it naturally? without wasting money.

 

[Deleted member 110192]

it is though. The pic u showed had a digusting amounts of muscle.

If this is disgusting amount of muscle then you’re a skinny bitch probably

also bearing on your health, which u can not debate against?

What health conditions for exmaple? I can debunk each of the ones you will give me, there is literally an ancillary FOR EACH side effect

 

[william.]

If this is disgusting amount of muscle then you’re a skinny bitch probably
View attachment 4174958

I prob have a more appealing physique then you.

What health conditions for exmaple?I can debunk each of the ones you will give me, there is literally an ancillary FOR EACH side effect

Heart and Blood Vessels​

• Increased blood pressure
• Higher risk of heart attack and stroke
• Increase in “bad” cholesterol (LDL) and decrease in “good” cholesterol (HDL)
• Thickening of the blood, which can lead to blood clots

Psychological and Mental Effects​

• Mood swings (“roid rage”)
• Increased irritability or aggression

ur balls are looksminned on it. U cant be 100% sure that accutane saves u from acne+ dut also has tons of sides; same with accutane.

 

[chadisbeingmade]

could have just done it naturally? without wasting money.

For the mass? Maybe in 5 years. You can’t maintain the level of leanness I do without castrate tier Test level.

waste of money.

Blud doesn’t has £20 a month JFL

 

[imontheloose]

You have triggered the Shanghai roid rage. @chadisbeingmade @SlayerJonas

 

[kazama]

I prob have a more appealing physique then you.

Heart and Blood Vessels​

• Increased blood pressure
• Higher risk of heart attack and stroke
• Increase in “bad” cholesterol (LDL) and decrease in “good” cholesterol (HDL)
• Thickening of the blood, which can lead to blood clots

Psychological and Mental Effects​

• Mood swings (“roid rage”)
• Increased irritability or aggression

ur balls are looksminned on it. U cant be 100% sure that accutane saves u from acne+ dut also has tons of sides; same with accutane.

Fuck u bro, u still using Chatgpt to debate?????

 

[william.]

For the mass? Maybe in 5 years. You can’t maintain the level of leanness I do without castrate tier Test level

U dont need more muscle then u can get as a natty.

Fuck u bro, u still using Chatgpt to debate?????

ofc i am

he said he will debunk whatever, so.

You have triggered the Shanghai roid rage. @chadisbeingmade @SlayerJonas

shivers

 

[Deleted member 110192]

I prob have a more appealing physique then you.

Heart and Blood Vessels​

• Increased blood pressure
• Higher risk of heart attack and stroke
• Increase in “bad” cholesterol (LDL) and decrease in “good” cholesterol (HDL)
• Thickening of the blood, which can lead to blood clots

Psychological and Mental Effects​

• Mood swings (“roid rage”)
• Increased irritability or aggression

ur balls are looksminned on it. U cant be 100% sure that accutane saves u from acne+ dut also has tons of sides; same with accutane.

Haha mirin using GPT, I knew your intellectual capacity was limited and I was right

organs

that’s why you have dut…

Heart and Blood Vessels​

• Increased blood pressure
• Higher risk of heart attack and stroke
• Increase in “bad” cholesterol (LDL) and decrease in “good” cholesterol (HDL)
• Thickening of the blood, which can lead to blood clots

Telmisartan, fish oil, TUDCA, NAC,aspirin

Psychological and Mental Effects​

lol

ur balls are looksminned on it

already debunked this

U cant be 100% sure that accutane saves u from acne

Yes you can’t be 100% sure about anything, never said you are, but for 90% accutane will help on cycle

30-60 mg accutane on cycle and you’re good, you can also always add another topical retinoid like Taz/tret for more effectiveness

dut also has tons of sides;

lol

Most dut side effects are nocebo

 

[Deleted member 110192]

@william. all you need for your cycle is 500 mg test, anavar 30mg, 5-6 iu hGH and ancillaires like AI (only if needed), accutane (and maybe a another topical retinoid if you really need), dut, RU, topical minox and that’s it, it will be completely fine for the average healthy person

You can’t debunk this and you can’t do shit since you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about

 

[william.]

Haha mirin using GPT, I knew your intellectual capacity was limited and I was right

gpt is way smarter then

that’s why you have dut…

dut does not counter anything health related

Telmisartan, fish oil, TUDCA, NAC,aspirin

holy money-waste

its not like u can guarantee anything anyway.

just dont take roids?

lol

already debunked this

NO, while u are on it ur balls are looksminned.

Yes you can’t be 100% sure about anything, never said you are, but for 90% accutane will help on cycle

accutane has tons of sides.

30-60 mg accutane on cycle and you’re good, you can also always add another topical retinoid like Taz/tret for more effectiveness

then u wont have any fucking energy, unless u blast caffeine, which is also toxic.

lol
View attachment 4175004
Most dut side effects are nocebo

 

[kazama]

You can still use them without any side effects, so I see no point in NOT using them, why would you train natty when you can just… not train natty and get good gains with very minimal side effects

Wait till bro hear about ancillaries haha

this is where you failed. You’re looking at ‘roids like it’s black and white, but you need to realize it’s NOT all black and white, you need to start realizing that even if you would use 1 gram of test you won’t look like a body builder and you even have the chance of looking fucking NATTY, those bodybuilders you see have ELITE-tier genetics, are training like maniacs, getting their macros, etc etc. youNeed to realize that even if you are using roids you won’t look become a body builder lol, you can be on 500 mg of testosterone and still looks skinny asf, they body builders you see on the stage are on GRAMS of it, and in that regard I agree that it’s a looksmin, but looking at it as bad and good is wrong, nobody on this forum who has the motive to looksmax his body won’t use grams of gear.

You look at it as black and white since when you imagine someone who is saying is on gear, you imagining him as a body builder immediately and not as someone who just want to maximize his muscle mass a bit and to looks aesthetic

But you are on a “looksmaxxing” forum, not a bodybuilding forum, you don’t blast grams of gear weekly/daily. Like I already said but I will say it again since your intellectual capacity is limited- don’t exceed over 600 mg of test unless you want to looksmin yourself, 500 mg is the sweat spot.

You won’t look like a body builder when on 500 mg of roids, I will give you an example of someone who is blasting grams of gear since he’s BODYBUILDING and is NOT going for aesthetics and someone who is using between 400-600 mg of test and IS going for aesthetics

Bodybuilder (grams of gear + elite genetics)
View attachment 4174301

Someone who is on reasonable amount of gear (400-600 mg):
View attachment 4174308

Look how the muscle mass changes:
View attachment 4174309

This looks like shit amount of muscle? If you agree then you’re schizophrenic

yeah you obviously dont need ‘roids, but why not use them if you can get good amount of muscle mass from it without many side effects if you’re doing it correctly and smartly, instead of training 10x times harder, 10x times more frequently, you will need to maximize your diet way better as a natty than you would if you were on roids etc etc etc

I see this as crazy ROI

I’m not saying that EVERYONE will tolerate gear well and I’m not saying that EVERYONE will see great gains,but a fair amount of people WILL see gains and WILL tolerate it well (IF DONE CORRECTLY AND NOT
LIKE A DUMBASS) so… why not try? Worst case scenario you will get some acne and you won’t get as much gains as you thought you would…

Inb4 muh permanent HPTA shutdown LOL, your ballss will be fine btw

I won’t say that you 100% won’t, but you surely won’t see anything visible, and you will age SIGNIFICANTLY less when using reasonable dosages of gear

And LOL at the part where you said that you will age more when on dut haha

I won’t even ask you to elaborate since you don’t know what the fuck you are talking about JFL.

I see no reason for not using dut lol

hahahahahhahaahaah lol @powerliftercoco
@slaters @kazama @aids

Imagine being SO retarded and being so ignorant about the topic you hate about that you literally can’t even get the basics of it

Please don’t tell me you confused mg (milligrams, the dose of testosterone you inject) with ng/dL (nanograms per deciliter, the serum testosterone level in your blood)

This just shows how ignorant you are about that topic.

Or… OP just have 600 mg of testosterone naturally, just imagine his elites genetics, having 2500-3000 ng/dl naturally, crazy

How the hell did you infer that from what I replied to you LOLL, how is there no point of taking it if you won’t age much if you’re not exceeding 600 mg in each cycle exactly?

Retarded, your balls WILL come back to producing LH/FSH naturally at month 1-3 (maybe even more for FSH) after stopping your cycle anyway, and that’s why you have HCG and HMG (I won’t be surprised if you don’t know what it is since you’re clueless tbh)

Validate User

academic.oup.com

This study is not 100% great but it shows that after 3-6 months of steroids use, your LH will come back to work, and for your FSH it will take a little longer

It’s not common to become permanently hypogandal from steroid use.

And also that’s why you should use HCG and HMG, it will mimic LH and FSH while still being suppressed

One of the biggest bodybuilders of all time:
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View attachment 4174474

Nah bruh, just hit the gym (and get the same gains a roid user gets without giving ur muscle mechanical stimulation)
Niggas have no idea how much gains they would make using this and training correctly. Its basically gaining the mass of someone who took 3 years in 3 months
u save ur time, and probably even ur money if u dont live in a poor country
This thread simply doesnt make sense.
Apart from other non psychological aspects, every man should be tested after the age of 35-40

u can get that naturally, without fucking you aging and health.

Most will see almost no gains after 6 years of consistent training, and most of that will be neural adaptations. And those 6 years will be minimal gains
Roids will just save them time.

where is the proof women like copious amounts of muscle?

Proportions. What u think? u think u'll get a 1.8 Adonis Index being natural with an average generic? Good luck jfl, especially if ure under 6'0
And keep coping, thinking its just abt muscles. Low doses of test already save u from dieting. You can simply stay lean all year long
Come with a fucking Chatgpt and I'll send my penis in ur DM, nigga, u have Google, just use it. Go read some ppl talking abt the quality of this fucked up ai

 

[william.]

@william. all you need for your cycle is 500 mg test, anavar 30mg, 5-6 iu hGH and ancillaires like AI (only if needed), accutane (and maybe a another topical retinoid if you really need), dut, RU, topical minox and that’s it, it will be completely fine for the average healthy person

You can’t debunk this and you can’t do shit since you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about

holy money waste

just dont take roids

and u will be unhealthy asf

 

[william.]

Most will see almost no gains after 6 years of consistent training, and most of that will be neural adaptations. And those 6 years will be minimal gains
Roids will just save them time.

this is not even close to true.

Proportions. What u think? u think u'll get a 1.8 Adonis Index being natural with an average generic? Good luck jfl, especially if ure under 6'0
And keep coping, thinking its just abt muscles. Low doses of test already save u from dieting. You can simply stay lean all year long
Come with a fucking Chatgpt and I'll send my penis in ur DM, nigga, u have Google, just use it. Go read some ppl talking abt the quality of this fucked up ai

ldar, u clearly have autism.

 

[Deleted member 110192]

dut does not counter anything health related

You know that dut is prescribed specifically for BPH right?

holy money-waste

its not like u can guarantee anything anyway.

just dont take roids?

I needed to stop arguing with you, from this reply I’m stopping now

You are retarded, DYOR

 

[chadisbeingmade]

U dont need more muscle then u can get as a natty.

For women? I don’t disagree. But I don’t give a fuck I don’t do it for women, that’s about your face.

Will take you 3-4 years of dedicating your life to it natty and being majorly looksminned though with fat gain with minimal muscle gain compared to roiders. Roids make the bulk worthwhile. I can do it with minimal fat gain and way more muscle gain without me descending and ageing.

And I can’t imagine how sexless people must be on here to only think about what women want. Women honestly don’t give two shits about your body initially. Even gym girls will cringe at bloated gym-cels (unless they’re chad facially), while violently fingering their pussy to the forward grown maxilla of a twink (I love this line @imontheloose)

Is physique a halo? Yes. But only once they like your face. If a girl was going to be with you, they would’ve been with you regardless of your physique, it just increases their attraction.

 

[kazama]

@william. all you need for your cycle is 500 mg test, anavar 30mg, 5-6 iu hGH and ancillaires like AI (only if needed), accutane (and maybe a another topical retinoid if you really need), dut, RU, topical minox and that’s it, it will be completely fine for the average healthy person

Some niggas dreaming of being able to use this but cant cuz this is the value of a car in their country vs other niggas with Twitter faggot speeches
"muh that ages you" ofc bro, u were dumb b4 and after using it
Meanwhile I'll cope thinking abt using some inferior shit

this is not even close to true

u probably dont understand the basics of hypertrophy

ldar, u clearly have autism

Best thing I heard today

 

[imontheloose]

Even gym girls cringe at bloated gym-cel (unless they’re chad), while violently fingering their pussy to the forward grown maxilla of a twink (I love this line @

@imontheloose)

It’s true. A forward grown twinkcel even gets me scratching myself.

 

[william.]

For women? I don’t disagree. But I don’t give a fuck I don’t do it for women, that’s about your face.

Will take you 3-4 years of dedicating your life to it natty and being majorly looksminned though with fat gain with minimal muscle gain compared to roiders. Roids make the bulk worthwhile. I can do it with minimal fat gain and way more muscle gain without me descending and ageing. That shit is all bullshit cope.

And I can’t imagine how sexless people must be on here to only think about what women want. Women honestly don’t give two shits about your body. It makes almost no difference. Even gym girls cringe at bloated gym-cel (unless they’re chad), while violently fingering their pussy to the forward grown maxilla of a twink (I love this line @imontheloose)

Is physique a halo? Yes. But only once they like your face. If a girl was going to be with you, they would’ve been with you regardless of your physique, it just increases their attraction.

then we agree on everything.

 

[william.]

u probably dont understand the basics of hypertrophy

Best thing I heard today

keep coping

 

[ikramy]

Roids are useless tbh I mean if you can’t wait to be jacked maybe but you’ll look already above average after 1 year or even 6 months of lifting consistently that’s enough halo if you’re doing it for girls.

 

[kazama]

keep coping

-appeal to ridicule
-Ad hominem (did this with the copercel while he was citing facts)
You fit into everything, bad faith arguments. It makes u such a pathetic person
@Copercel @hopecel
This guy is the best example of pathetic. You cite a peer reviewed study and he'll send u a screenshot of his conversation with chatgpt JFL, probably the free one still

 

[william.]

-appeal to ridicule
-Ad hominem (did this with the copercel while he was citing facts)
You fit into everything, bad faith arguments. It makes u such a pathetic person
@Copercel @hopecel
This guy is the best example of pathetic. You cite a peer reviewed study and he'll send u a screenshot of his conversation with chatgpt JFL, probably the free one still

U dont even known the argument fucking retard

 

[Deleted member 110192]

-appeal to ridicule
-Ad hominem (did this with the copercel while he was citing facts)
You fit into everything, bad faith arguments. It makes u such a pathetic person
@Copercel @hopecel
This guy is the best example of pathetic. You cite a peer reviewed study and he'll send u a screenshot of his conversation with chatgpt JFL, probably the free one still

Just stop talking to him it will give you nothing, he don’t know what he’s talking about

 

[kazama]

U dont even known the argument fucking retard

AGAIN

Just stop talking to him it will give you nothing, he don’t know what he’s talking about

yeah, but he has the talent to be a comedian tbh

 

[william.]

Just stop talking to him it will give you nothing, he don’t know what he’s talking about

AGAIN

yeah, but he has the talent to be a comedian tbh

holy shit u guys are low-iq

Show proof that women like copious amounts of muscle.

 

[Deleted member 110192]

holy shit u guys are low-iq

Show proof that women like copious amounts of muscle.

You are really THAT retarded bro? I really don’t want to offense you but you’re leaving me no choice

 

[william.]

You are really THAT retarded bro? I really don’t want to offense you but you’re leaving me no choice

Show proof that women like copious amounts of muscle.

 

[Deleted member 110192]

@william. you already asked me this and I’ve answered

 

[william.]

@william. you already asked me this and I’ve answered

not with pfoof?


Studies controlling for face and height show women generally prefer moderate muscle mass in men, about 10–15% above average, not extreme bodybuilder levels. Preferences vary, but moderate muscularity is most common.

 

[Deleted member 110192]

not with pfoof?


Studies controlling for face and height show women generally prefer moderate muscle mass in men, about 10–15% above average, not extreme bodybuilder levels. Preferences vary, but moderate muscularity is most common.

Got again?

Bro evolution is literally the PROOF

 

[william.]

Got again?

gpt* and yes, because its accurate.

Bro evolution is literally the PROOF

holy fuck

to much muscle have always been bad evolution-wise

 

[Deleted member 110192]

to much muscle have always been bad evolution-wise

when did I say otherwise ? I never said that too much muscle is good, I clearly stated a COUPLE OF times that it’s not good and looking aesthetic is better, but you need to realize roids won’t give you the “too much muscle” look unless you blast grams of it

I will stop replying to you now, there is not point in arguing with GPT

 

[william.]

when did I say otherwise ?

the pic u sent

I never said that too much muscle is good, I clearly stated a COUPLE OF times that it’s not good and looking aesthetic is better, but you need to realize roids won’t give you the “too much muscle” look unless you blast grams of it

yes, but its also a waste of money.

U can just do it natty with ZERO risks.

another thing is that test can cap ur height potential.

I will stop replying to you now, there is not point in arguing with GPT

im only using it for studies.

and can also just link them, but thats a hassle for you to read?

 

[Deleted member 110192]

the pic u sent

The pic literally is the ideal aesthetic body

another thing is that test can cap ur height potential.

Thats why you used it after puberty, retard, and there is this thing called AI ( and no, it’s not GPT)

im only using it for studies.

Can you remember… the rain @SlayerJonas

 

[william.]

The pic literally is the ideal aesthetic body

not based on studies.

Thats why you used it after puberty, retard, and there is this thing called AI

just iqmin.

( and no, it’s not GPT)

u said got again. u meant gpt again.

Can you remember… the rain @SlayerJonas

can he?

 

[Deleted member 110192]

u said got again. u meant gpt again.

Are you blind

 

[william.]

Are you blind

no wdym?

 

[aids]

You can still use them without any side effects, so I see no point in NOT using them, why would you train natty when you can just… not train natty and get good gains with very minimal side effects

Wait till bro hear about ancillaries haha

this is where you failed. You’re looking at ‘roids like it’s black and white, but you need to realize it’s NOT all black and white, you need to start realizing that even if you would use 1 gram of test you won’t look like a body builder and you even have the chance of looking fucking NATTY, those bodybuilders you see have ELITE-tier genetics, are training like maniacs, getting their macros, etc etc. youNeed to realize that even if you are using roids you won’t look become a body builder lol, you can be on 500 mg of testosterone and still looks skinny asf, they body builders you see on the stage are on GRAMS of it, and in that regard I agree that it’s a looksmin, but looking at it as bad and good is wrong, nobody on this forum who has the motive to looksmax his body won’t use grams of gear.

You look at it as black and white since when you imagine someone who is saying is on gear, you imagining him as a body builder immediately and not as someone who just want to maximize his muscle mass a bit and to looks aesthetic

But you are on a “looksmaxxing” forum, not a bodybuilding forum, you don’t blast grams of gear weekly/daily. Like I already said but I will say it again since your intellectual capacity is limited- don’t exceed over 600 mg of test unless you want to looksmin yourself, 500 mg is the sweat spot.

You won’t look like a body builder when on 500 mg of roids, I will give you an example of someone who is blasting grams of gear since he’s BODYBUILDING and is NOT going for aesthetics and someone who is using between 400-600 mg of test and IS going for aesthetics

Bodybuilder (grams of gear + elite genetics)
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Someone who is on reasonable amount of gear (400-600 mg):
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Look how the muscle mass changes:
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This looks like shit amount of muscle? If you agree then you’re schizophrenic

yeah you obviously dont need ‘roids, but why not use them if you can get good amount of muscle mass from it without many side effects if you’re doing it correctly and smartly, instead of training 10x times harder, 10x times more frequently, you will need to maximize your diet way better as a natty than you would if you were on roids etc etc etc

I see this as crazy ROI

I’m not saying that EVERYONE will tolerate gear well and I’m not saying that EVERYONE will see great gains,but a fair amount of people WILL see gains and WILL tolerate it well (IF DONE CORRECTLY AND NOT
LIKE A DUMBASS) so… why not try? Worst case scenario you will get some acne and you won’t get as much gains as you thought you would…

Inb4 muh permanent HPTA shutdown LOL, your ballss will be fine btw

I won’t say that you 100% won’t, but you surely won’t see anything visible, and you will age SIGNIFICANTLY less when using reasonable dosages of gear

And LOL at the part where you said that you will age more when on dut haha

I won’t even ask you to elaborate since you don’t know what the fuck you are talking about JFL.

I see no reason for not using dut lol

hahahahahhahaahaah lol @powerliftercoco
@slaters @kazama @aids

Imagine being SO retarded and being so ignorant about the topic you hate about that you literally can’t even get the basics of it

Please don’t tell me you confused mg (milligrams, the dose of testosterone you inject) with ng/dL (nanograms per deciliter, the serum testosterone level in your blood)

This just shows how ignorant you are about that topic.

Or… OP just have 600 mg of testosterone naturally, just imagine his elites genetics, having 2500-3000 ng/dl naturally, crazy

How the hell did you infer that from what I replied to you LOLL, how is there no point of taking it if you won’t age much if you’re not exceeding 600 mg in each cycle exactly?

Retarded, your balls WILL come back to producing LH/FSH naturally at month 1-3 (maybe even more for FSH) after stopping your cycle anyway, and that’s why you have HCG and HMG (I won’t be surprised if you don’t know what it is since you’re clueless tbh)

Validate User

academic.oup.com

This study is not 100% great but it shows that after 3-6 months of steroids use, your LH will come back to work, and for your FSH it will take a little longer

It’s not common to become permanently hypogandal from steroid use.

And also that’s why you should use HCG and HMG, it will mimic LH and FSH while still being suppressed

One of the biggest bodybuilders of all time:
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Caging if he unironically thinks he will have higher endogenous testosterone levels than even 200mg/week.

 

[Deleted member 110192]

Caging if he unironically thinks he will have higher endogenous testosterone levels than even 200mg/week.

OP is a complete idiot

 

[aids]

OP is a complete idiot

Gonna DNR the thread until I want a laugh

 

[Deleted member 110192]

Gonna DNR the thread until I want a laugh

His replies are even worse

 

[chadisbeingmade]

Show proof that women like copious amounts of muscle.

JLF - he is a delusional retard but whatever.